Guys here who have an excellent love life/dating life but struggle in other areas

[bigdave17]

would you trade your life with mine?

Most people here are already familiar with my story but for the ones who are not - the rest of my life is incredibly perfect outside of dating (I'm good looking, extremely fit and healthy, extraordinarily successful, have fantastic family and friends, great lifestyle, fun hobbies/interests, etc...) but I've had zero real dating success in my life. I've never even had sex with a attractive girl who was my age. I find dating and women to be overwhelmingly difficult in general.

very curious what the responses are going to be.

 

[skinnyguy]

Well for one thing, you’re not as good looking and successful as you think you are, because if you were you’d be getting HB 9 without trying.

I’d rather have money than lots of women while having money problems. Your education and profession help you in the long term. Women often don’t.

 

[bigdave17]

Well for one thing, you’re not as good looking and successful as you think you are, because if you were you’d be getting HB 9 without trying.

I’d rather have money than lots of women while having money problems. Your education and profession help you in the long term. Women often don’t.

I'm worth about 300K at the age of 28. I'll be a millionaire by the time I'm 38-40 and a multi millionaire by 60 (assuming things go the way they are going right now, which I know is a big if). I have a nice 2500 square foot house that's going to be paid for in 3 years, a 70,000 luxury sedan, etc.... I make about 150-200K a year right now.

Appearance wise - I'm about a 7-8/10 in the face but I have a great muscular physique and my fashion sense is 10/10. I can't remember my last date

LOL @ people thinking that dating is easy if you have x, y or z. Decent looking women in their 20s nowadays have limitless options dude - they can go on tinder and get hit on by a 10/10 male model who makes 500K a year.

 

[guru1000]

would you trade your life with mine?

Most people here are already familiar with my story but for the ones who are not - the rest of my life is incredibly perfect outside of dating (I'm good looking, extremely fit and healthy, extraordinarily successful, have fantastic family and friends, great lifestyle, fun hobbies/interests, etc...) but I've had zero real dating success in my life. I've never even had sex with a attractive girl who was my age. I find dating and women to be overwhelmingly difficult in general.

very curious what the responses are going to be.

Read this and ask yourself outside of serious personality flaws or laziness, does this make sense?

 

[bigdave17]

Your standards for "decent looking" must be insanely delusionally high if you believe that.

nah, I just want like a solid low maintenance 7/10

but even those women nowadays want a 10/10 male

 

[bigdave17]

Read this and ask yourself outside of serious personality flaws or laziness, does this make sense?

that's the era we live in nowadays buddy

Dating is insanely one sided

 

[bigdave17]

A 7/10 can get:

An ugly rich guy

A rich 8/10 male for a relationship

A poor 9/10 or 10/10 male for sex

They can't get no 500k a YEAR 10/10 MODEL lmao

you're proving my fukking point dude

The average 26 year old 7/10 female makes 30K a year. The fact that she can get a better looking man than herself who makes about 5-10 times her income is just completely ludicrous and proves how hilariously one sided dating nowadays is.

100 years ago, a 7/10 female dated a 4/10 male

 

[guru1000]

that's the era we live in nowadays buddy

Dating is insanely one sided

For you. When you get to my age (10 years older
than you) and still date 26 yo models, and read a thread like this, then you know something is up with the OP.

 

[bigdave17]

its better to be a broke loser with game than an rich awkward weirdo. infinitely better

I'm not awkward or a weirdo. I work a sales job dude - my whole job revolves around making random strangers like me so much that they spend 40K on the spot and I'm one of the best in my industry in the country. I make friends everywhere I go. Dating is just that hard nowadays

Isn't being poor fukking horrible though? I've been doing so well for so long, I can't even remember what it's like to not be able to buy whatever the hell I want and go wherever I want with zero worries about budget

 

[bigdave17]

For you. When you get to my age (10 years older
than you) and still date 26 yo models, and read a thread like this, then you know something is up with the OP.

lmaooooo date 26 yo models you are hilarious


26 yo models are looking for professional athletes and movie stars. Most of them aren't even ok with a 26 yo male model unless he is extremely successful/famous even if she herself makes 30K a year

 

[guru1000]

lmaooooo date 26 yo models you are hilarious


26 yo models are looking for professional athletes and movie stars. Most of them aren't even ok with a 26 yo male model unless he is extremely successful/famous even if she herself makes 30K a year

Did you not also state that the 8s and 9s online date professional athletes and movie stars?

And now professional models in their 20s only date professional athletes and movie stars too?

How many professional athletes and movie stars do you think exist?

Lol.

Math is not your strong point, heh?

Let me give you a clue, either (1) you’re not a 8/9 as you think; or (2)you’re socially retarded.

Many social retards are great in sales.

 

[bigdave17]

Did you not also state that the 8s and 9s online date professional athletes and movie stars?

And now professional models in their 20s only date professional athletes and movie stars too?

How many professional athletes and movie stars do you think exist?

Lol.

Math is not your strong point, heh?

Let me give you a clue, either (1) you’re not a 8/9 as you think; or (2)you’re socially retarded.

Many social retards are great in sales.

I have literally never met a decent salesperson who was not extremely likable outside of the job. Selling isn't that much different than bullsh*tting with somebody at a bar - if you want to be a good salesman, you have to be very good at making people like you and feel comfortable around you immediately. I don't go through any routine or approach - it's all about making people like me very quickly and very intensely so I can ask for the business. I do it constantly over and over again with people of all different backgrounds, races, ages, etc... Sales is actually awesome for building your social skills. I'm way better at making friends now than 10 years ago.

My looks are kinda tough to judge. I get complimented sometimes on a daily basis and often by total strangers but I look more like a light skinned Spanish or Puerto Rican than a pure white boy. I suspect a lot of women are turned off by this as most women only like purely white men

 

[bigdave17]

and 26 yo female models have standards so high, it would make your head explode. No fukking chance some 38 year old has a chance to go out on a date with one. I don't even care if you're very good looking yourself

a 26 yo model would only date a very good looking man who is also extremely high status/ at least borderline famous. She is not dating some chump (even one who is very handsome) making 80-100K a year

 

[guru1000]

I have literally never met a decent salesperson who was not extremely likable outside of the job. Selling isn't that much different than bullsh*tting with somebody at a bar - if you want to be a good salesman, you have to be very good at making people like you and feel comfortable around you immediately. I don't go through any routine or approach - it's all about making people like me very quickly and very intensely so I can ask for the business

My looks are kinda tough to judge. I get complimented sometimes on a daily basis but I look more like a light skinned Spanish or Puerto Rican than a pure white boy. I suspect a lot of women are turned off by this as most women only like purely white men

I’m olive skinned, and I clean up online and irl, 100+ dates each year when I’m single, 8s - 10s, with sprinkles of 7s. Dated six professional models and ex-models this year.

Read my FRs/threads. Some weekends I schedule 10 dates, flake/reschedule on half, and double- and triple-header the remaining.

So I know something is up when you say are not socially retarded and are a 8/9 and still dont date attractive women.

I’m the wrong guy to feed this BS to. 38? I’m in my 40s. Lol. I do much better than you financially but not even close to famous. You have no clue what you are saying, do you?

 

[bigdave17]

I’m olive skinned, and I clean up online and irl, 100+ dates each year when I’m single, 8s - 10s, with sprinkles of 7s. Dated six professional models and ex-models this year.

Read my FRs/threads. Some weekends I schedule 10 dates, flake/reschedule on half, and double- and triple-header the remaining.

So I know something is up when you say are not socially retarded and are a 8/9.

I’m the wrong guy to feed this BS to.

no I'm not a 9 in terms of pure facial aesthetics. I'm probably about a 7.5 realistically but my body and fashion sense are 10/10. I'm 190 lbs extremely ripped with a perfectly proportionate physique. I dress super upscale. My face is good though - I have extremely masculine features, a great stubble/light beard, great eyes, square jawline/chin but my nose is a little big, I'm not purely white and my hair sucks. Most women nowadays pretty much only want purely white guys with perfect hairline.

The problem for me is my face doesn't translate that great to online dating - I'm about a 6.5 in pics and I would need to be in ballpark of a 9-10/10 to have a chance with anybody close to decent with online dating. If I was a 10/10, I would maybe have a chance to get some 6s and 7s online.

Overall, I am going for women who are around a 6 to maybe 7.5/10. I'm not crazy enough to go for 8-10s. I think you're ****ing crazy to go for anything above a 7. Even those women are impossible to handle

 

[bigdave17]

I’m olive skinned, and I clean up online and irl, 100+ dates each year when I’m single, 8s - 10s, with sprinkles of 7s. Dated six professional models and ex-models this year.

Read my FRs/threads. Some weekends I schedule 10 dates, flake/reschedule on half, and double- and triple-header the remaining.

So I know something is up when you say are not socially retarded and are a 8/9 and still dont date attractive women.

I’m the wrong guy to feed this BS to. 38? I’m in my 40s. Lol. I do much better than you financially but not even close to famous. You have no clue what you are saying, do you?

If you're making about 500K a year and are a 9-10/10, then I would maybe believe that you're dating professional models but very few men are even 7+s when they are in their 40s. Did you get lucky with some fantastic hair and aging genetics? If that's the case, that's fantastic and I'm very happy for you.

 

[guru1000]

no I'm not a 9 in terms of pure facial aesthetics. I'm probably about a 7.5 realistically but my body and fashion sense are 10/10. I'm 190 lbs extremely ripped with a perfectly proportionate physique. I dress super upscale. My face is good though - I have extremely masculine features, a great stubble/light beard, great eyes, square jawline/chin but my nose is a little big, I'm not purely white and my hair sucks. Most women nowadays pretty much only want purely white guys with perfect hairline.

The problem for me is my face doesn't translate that great to online dating - I'm about a 6.5 in pics and I would need to be in ballpark of a 9-10/10 to have a chance with anybody close to decent with online dating. If I was a 10/10, I would maybe have a chance to get some 6s and 7s online.

Overall, I am going for women who are around a 6 to maybe 7.5/10. I'm not crazy enough to go for 8-10s. I think you're ****ing crazy to go for anything above a 7. Even those women are impossible to handle

I don’t date women exclusively who are not 9s/10s. I’m no celebrity. But I’m top tier across the board.

When I was 28, I also had the looks, money, and physique but dated only three 9s, two were LTRs.

These days, 9s are dime a dozen. I also live in NYC; hot women are everywhere. But as you get older, assuming you tend to your physicality, dating hot young women becomes easier. The last two years have been my best years.

You’re still young and there is a certain gullibility that comes in your 20s, whereas women see you are not clued in. Combine this with your circumscribing beliefs of who young hot women will date, and its plain as day to see that it’s not hot young women who are rejecting you; rather it’s you who is rejecting you.

 

[guru1000]

If you're making about 500K a year and are a 9-10/10, then I would maybe believe that you're dating professional models but very few men are even 7+s when they are in their 40s. Did you get lucky with some fantastic hair and aging genetics? If that's the case, that's fantastic and I'm very happy for you.

I earn more. I’m a VC.

I’m a 9 by appearance. Also 6’1, 190lbs, 8% bf, proportional aesthetics. I’ve posted my pics in this forum before.

Hair: if you have money, you can keep your hair. See FUT.

Face: I look 35. I tend to my appearance and you best tend, especially once you get to high 30s.

 

[bigdave17]

I don’t date women exclusively who are not 9s/10s. I’m no celebrity. But I’m top tier across the board.

When I was 28, I also had the looks, money, and physique but dated only three 9s, two were LTRs.

These days, 9s are dime a dozen. I also live in NYC; hot women are everywhere. But as you get older, assuming you tend to your physicality, dating hot young women becomes easier. The last two years have been my best years.

You’re still young and there is a certain gullibility that comes in your 20s, whereas women see you are not clued in. Combine this with your circumscribing beliefs of who young hot women will date, and its plain as day to see that it’s not hot young women who are rejecting you; rather it’s you who is rejecting you.

lol dude you're sitting here and telling me I'm wrong about everything when you're a 9-10/10 male making about what? 500K a year? You're in the top 0.00000000000001% of men. You're not disproving anything I said.

lol @ making it sound like having 2 serious relationships with gorgeous women by 28 is terrible. I would be very happy with 1 relationship with a 7/10. I don't want anybody above a 7/10 anyways. In a perfect world, I would want like a 6/10 face with a 9/10 body. I hate myself for even having standards. I wish I would be happy with a chubby single mom type. Attractive women are horrible to deal with in every way.

I am rejecting myself? No I wouldn't say that. I approach women sometimes, the conversation usually goes smooth but they're not interested in me so I walk away before I get rejected. When I do ask them out, they give me some bullsh*t excuse. I had one last Saturday, probably a 6.5/10, tell me that "she doesn't date". Yes she seriously told me that. I walked away laughing

 

[bigdave17]

I earn more. I’m a VC.

I’m a 9 by appearance. Also 6’1, 190lbs, 8% bf, proportional aesthetics. I’ve posted my pics in this forum before.

Hair: if you have money, you can keep your hair. See FUT.

Face: I look 35. I tend to my appearance and you best tend, especially once you get to high 30s.

So you're a 6'1 9/10 making 800K a year - you're in the top 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of men

yes, totally disproving my notions that women nowadays have impossible standards.