Tired of trying to spin plates

doctor1996

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Hello,

It is not going anywhere. Both of these girls, I was talking with, nothing ends up happening. Text game has gotten better. But how many more women do I have to approach. I let this failure ruin my confidence, think about, oh maybe it's my looks, maybe its the way i dress.. I start to overthink and over-analyze. I just don't know how longer I can keep doing this.

I should just go back to hitting the books 24/7. I guess a normal person who accumulated 10 numbers over the course of week should at least secure one date. I am basically 0-10.

Well. What now? Keep going out there? Trying more.

Maybe start lower with 5's? Am I shooting to far ahead? I am talking with 10's and 9's..
 

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But she legit takes 6 hours to send 3 messages.. Yeah she may be busy.. But like, that just screams disinterest to me
So either let it take the time it takes or stop messaging her. Sending messages is really low effort and next to no investment, so I'd just let it take the time it takes, maybe something comes of it or maybe not.

Don't dwell on it when you're waiting for replies, focus on something or someone else until there is a response if one comes at all. Don't get attached, at least not so early on.
 

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Oh well I have one plate already thanks to Sosuave (been a member for couple months), it was hard to get it, but it was worth it. Shes 5/10 but I dont care.

Sometimes when I date and the date goes perfect (for her) even when we kiss and I can see shes up to sex, she ignores me later lol. Probably theres someone in her life who decided to show her interest in the same time, maybe she prefers him because her friends know him, or something, there could be many reasons, but chicks depend on friends a lot, so their opinion matter.

One ghosted me when I sent her pic of my unzipped jeans zip, but other one would go naughty and exchange dirty pics.

So even if first date goes perfect, and even if it will be a bit sexual, theres big chance she will flake. I need to train my afterdate game
 

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Hello,

It is not going anywhere. Both of these girls, I was talking with, nothing ends up happening. Text game has gotten better. But how many more women do I have to approach. I let this failure ruin my confidence, think about, oh maybe it's my looks, maybe its the way i dress.. I start to overthink and over-analyze. I just don't know how longer I can keep doing this.

I should just go back to hitting the books 24/7. I guess a normal person who accumulated 10 numbers over the course of week should at least secure one date. I am basically 0-10.

Well. What now? Keep going out there? Trying more.

Maybe start lower with 5's? Am I shooting to far ahead? I am talking with 10's and 9's..
As stated before you need to take a long honest look at what you are doing and where you can improve.

From the texts ive seen your texting is terrible. But that isn't the bigger picture thing to look at. The bigger picture thing to look at is are these women giving you their number because they are interested or just because they want you to stop bothering them? It seems pretty clear that it is the latter because there is almost no level of interest from their texts that I've seen.

So you need to work on the in person interaction where they are giving you rheir number because they want you to contact them instead of because they want to get rid of you.

Just my 2 cents
 

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first off stop listening to NAV thats beta boy rap


second of all stop being so desperate you are probably coming off thirsty
 

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Hello,

It is not going anywhere. Both of these girls, I was talking with, nothing ends up happening. Text game has gotten better. But how many more women do I have to approach. I let this failure ruin my confidence, think about, oh maybe it's my looks, maybe its the way i dress.. I start to overthink and over-analyze. I just don't know how longer I can keep doing this.

I should just go back to hitting the books 24/7. I guess a normal person who accumulated 10 numbers over the course of week should at least secure one date. I am basically 0-10.

Well. What now? Keep going out there? Trying more.

Maybe start lower with 5's? Am I shooting to far ahead? I am talking with 10's and 9's..
Post a pic Sir
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Two girls is such a ridiculously small sample size--how the fvck are you gonna base your self worth off of TWO girls? If you don't bench press 300 lbs after working out twice, does that make you weak? If you miss your first two shots in a game of basketball, does that make you a sh1tty player?

I get flaked on dozens of times a year. Girls don't respond to my texts hundreds of times a year. What does that say about me as a person? Well, not a whole lot. All my friends and family still love me no matter how many times I get rejected. It doesn't make the girls who like me like me any less. And it doesn't mean you won't pull ones of these girls in the future--in the past 12 months I think I've gotten five girls over who at one point or another flaked or stopped responding to my texts. One girl, I texted about 4x over the course of a month and a half--I accidentally left my sunglasses at her apartment lol--and she ignored all of them and then on the fifth came over and we had a lot of fun before she disappeared again (turned out to have some long distance bf).

Don't take things so seriously--when you hit a hot streak you won't care about the girls that turn you down. And 1996? That'd make you 21? Just give it 5 years and 90% of the girls you're stressing over now won't be in your league anymore, especially if you put in the work.
 

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I get it I'm a failur
No you're not, 2 girls is nothing, you can easily go one night clubbing and be rejected by way more women than that but you only need one to accept. You need to separate your ego from these interactions, failure is just more experience that helps you get closer to your goal and you need to learn that you will fail plenty.

Just keep at it and keep talking to more women, not just to get their numbers but socialize just for the fun of it. The more you do it the better you get at it, that's how it works with everything in life. If you think you're going to read material and go out there and kill it you'll be thoroughly disappointed, it takes time and dedication and a right mindset
 

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I should just go back to hitting the books 24/7. I guess a normal person who accumulated 10 numbers over the course of week should at least secure one date. I am basically 0-10.
1 out of 10 is a poor ratio to get a girl on a date. But, it's still too early to tell where the issue lies. If the issue lies with you, the underlying factors are (1) your SMV relative to hers; (2) your social skills; (3) your presentation and style; (4) your rapport.

Go out and accumulate another 20-30 numbers. If you still are at a 0%, then the issue definitely lies with one of the above. As of now, it's a number's game. In your next 20 numbers, you may close 5, bringing your overall ratio to 16% (5/30), which is good. Keep going to identify the issue.
 

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1 out of 10 is a poor ratio to get a girl on a date. But, it's still too early to tell where the issue lies. If the issue lies with you, the underlying factors are (1) your SMV relative to hers; (2) your social skills; (3) your presentation and style; (4) your rapport.

Go out and accumulate another 20-30 numbers. If you still are at a 0%, then the issue definitely lies with one of the above. As of now, it's a number's game. In your next 20 numbers, you may close 5, bringing your overall ratio to 16% (5/30), which is good. Keep going to identify the issue.
Now I completely agree with Guru here. If you are having an issue on the STR (short term dating side of the market), there's something off with either your looks, personality and finances "attraction" ratio....or you aren't playing the numbers game good enough.
 

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You can't expect to have instant results... life doesn't work like that... like school... you have to study, you have to experience, go threw exams... sometimes it works, sometimes it won't.

At least with women... you just need a pass.

Btw, since you wanna be a doctor... you already have something going against you in terms of ''social skills'' ... we all know med students are brain genius but that usually at the cost of social skills.

Sure, there is a lucky few who have it all... but they aren't you... actually ask them how they do it... you'll probably find out they work ALOT more than they look.

You can't give up at the first try... losers do that!

You know Michael Jordan? You know Wayne Gretsky? You know Rocky Marciano? You know Mohammed Ali? You know Georges St-Pierre?
You know Tom cruise?

Do you know any succesful persons?

You should look up the picture/meme about their success!

ALL of THEM FAILED HUNDREDS OF TIME... even THOUSANDS.... but they NEVER GAVE UP and LEARN and ADAPTED!

Until they made it.

You should make move on 10 girls before seeing any resultats. Actually most succesful people win 30% of the time.

30% and its considered GREAT.

You gotta learn
1) Stop pressuring yourself
2) Learn to deal with failure (actually you ain't failing... it just didn't work)
3) Learn from all approachs and keep approaching until it work

There is no secret formulas.... you can become better to increase your odds... but the only way to win... is to approach, escalate, repeat until it works.. and when it start working it will become easier and you keep repeating until it work 1 time, 2 time, 3 time

Plate seeking is a full time job
 

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1996? Dude you’re like 20....... and your texting game? Hmmmm. A lot of nonsense blah blah how’s your day going. If she’s safe enough to give her number and chat it’s safe to ask her on a date. If she deflects, get rid of her. You’re dealing with college girls. They’re a dime a dozen and ho bags. Very fickle and you shouldn’t worry about them. If she really wanted to chill she’d ask you lol

I literally watched a chick ask her guy friend in class to go on a date/not date to the movies... her fuvk me eyes were like “dear god my panties are wet right now”.
 

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Listen this other girl is from India
She is a babe
Smart
And honestly bombarded with work.
But when she texts me I'll make my final attempt with any female for the time being if they want to grab a drink
If not I'm over and done with all this bull****. I'll probably go get an arranged marriage or some ****
 

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When i talk about how young people are lazy and want everything handed to them, this is a prime example.

Something doesn't go OPs way after a few times, well the answer is just to give up because it simply takes too much work to actually analyze, experiment and correct the issues he is facing.

To apply this to schooling it would be like OP doing poorly on a few homework assignments because he didn't bother finding out what he should be doing for it and just did whatever and then quitting school because he got a few bad grades on it.

OP your generation is lost...I feel badly for them. They grow up in this Alice in Wonderland fantasyland where the world is all popcorn and flowers and then they get out in the real world and find out the truth...its a cold, hard, cruel world that doesnt give a fvck about you.

Nobody is going to just give you a hand out with women, you have to put in the work yourself to improve and get better through practice. There are no participation trophies waiting for you in this. You have to keep score...you can't just go play and have no idea who is winning or losing.

If you dont want to put in the work and practice then thats on you but dont give us this "Woe is me" bullcrap. I'm not buying it.

Stop being lazy and wanting results with no work or effort put in on your part.
 
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