Let’s talk facts

[Epicurus]

“It’s estimated that 1.6% of the adult U.S. population has BPD but it may be as high as 5.9%. Nearly 75% of people diagnosed with BPD are women, but recent research suggests that men may be almost as frequently affected by BPD. In the past, men with BPD were often misdiagnosed with PTSD or depression. “ - National alliance on Mental illness

Yet every single guy on sosuave has had a BPD gf.

Interesting

 

[wifehunter]

“It’s estimated that 1.6% of the adult U.S. population has BPD but it may be as high as 5.9%. Nearly 75% of people diagnosed with BPD are women, but recent research suggests that men may be almost as frequently affected by BPD. In the past, men with BPD were often misdiagnosed with PTSD or depression. “ - National alliance on Mental illness

Yet every single guy on sosuave has had a BPD gf.

Interesting

BPD/NPD is also perpetuated by 'enabler' types...see: beta orbiters / white knights / afc's. The feeding of women's egos, is the problem. That, and the total depravity of the natural human condition. It's a perfect storm.

When we let bad behaviour continue... Don't be surprised when things turn to sh!t.

 

[Red Legg]

Mental health medical studies are notoriously politically correct.I think 75% of women have BPD...but they are all crazy.(we already know this gentlemen)

 

[wifehunter]

Mental health medical studies are notoriously politically correct.I think 75% of women have BPD...but they are all crazy.(we already know this gentlemen)

Welp...so much for the zombie apocalypse. ...it's already here!

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I think mental health diagnoses are given out too easily.

 

[Billtx49]

“It’s estimated that 1.6% of the adult U.S. population has BPD but it may be as high as 5.9%. Nearly 75% of people diagnosed with BPD are women, but recent research suggests that men may be almost as frequently affected by BPD. In the past, men with BPD were often misdiagnosed with PTSD or depression. “ - National alliance on Mental illness

Yet every single guy on sosuave has had a BPD gf.

Interesting

That is like stating that a certain percent of the population are alcoholics and then claiming an overabundance of alcohol involved posters on an online physical abuse forum. This forum is about All women…

Most men here straight out of a cluster B relationship find this forum while doing internet searches after the fact, but while still in wtf just happened mode. They find the BPD psych sites first, but guess what forum also pops up on those searches?
These fresh out of a damaged woman men are in the process of emotional and ego healing. That’s why they vent so much and create threads on the subject originally.

They want info from other men with similiar experience, not denial that a problem exists in a given quantity.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Personally, I've never thought a girl had BPD.

I usually think they are pretentious b1tche$ who know nothing about the world. And that affects my ability to interact with them or truly respect them.

They think that a hole between their legs is worth just as much as everything a man could earn in his life.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

BPD seems to be a crutch on this website. How does having certain characteristics warrant a medical label. Is BPD even real? Its way more complicated then that

 

[ubercat]

I don't get the point either a girl's behaviour works for you or it doesn't. If it doesn't work for you you're out. Or at least demote her down the order. Why do you need to know more than that?

 

[Masculinity]

“It’s estimated that 1.6% of the adult U.S. population has BPD but it may be as high as 5.9%. Nearly 75% of people diagnosed with BPD are women, but recent research suggests that men may be almost as frequently affected by BPD. In the past, men with BPD were often misdiagnosed with PTSD or depression. “ - National alliance on Mental illness

Yet every single guy on sosuave has had a BPD gf.

Interesting

I agree. BPD gets thrown around a lot in the forum as a blanket statement for women with mental health. In reality, it can be a variety of different mental illnesses.

 

[Red Legg]

I don't like the bpd thing much either.

There's some truth to it, but much like "the market is sh*t", it very easily becomes a way of deflecting personal responsibilty.

Seems to me that the red-pill is far easier to take than personal responsibilty for one's own actions.

Hogwash ! as we say here in the great state of Oklahoma.I can tell so-called DJ's by the knowledge they know and don't know.Let me run down the facts as I have experienced them pertaining to BPD's If you think BPD's don't exist or are not a problem for real players you either have not been with many women or are a beta male because real BPD's don't mess with betas (they are no challenge) these are facts I don't give a sh!t if it's believed or not by betas. 1) ALL of the BPD's I have been with are REAL BLONDES WITH BLUE EYES,yes every single damn one of them down to their blonde pvssy hair.2) They ALL are spiritually DARK and involved in the "occult" Ouija boards,Tarot cards,spells, blasphemy against Christ is a favorite you name it.3) There is a "network" of them 4) They know exactly what they are doing and like it 5) They love rough sex,if you are a wimp they won't even seek you out (the reason some men have never experienced them) 6) Many men have been killed at their hands.7) They deny their own existence.8) Every one of them I met through a "weird" circumstance or "happenstance" (they could have seeked me out,still not sure on that one) 9) They read this board (especially the BPD threads) YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Hogwash ! as we say here in the great state of Oklahoma.I can tell so-called DJ's by the knowledge they know and don't know.Let me run down the facts as I have experienced them pertaining to BPD's If you think BPD's don't exist or are not a problem for real players you either have not been with many women or are a beta male because real BPD's don't mess with betas (they are no challenge) these are facts I don't give a sh!t if it's believed or not by betas. 1) ALL of the BPD's I have been with are REAL BLONDES WITH BLUE EYES,yes every single damn one of them down to their blonde pvssy hair.2) They ALL are spiritually DARK and involved in the "occult" Ouija boards,Tarot cards,spells, blasphemy against Christ is a favorite you name it.3) There is a "network" of them 4) They know exactly what they are doing and like it 5) They love rough sex,if you are a wimp they won't even seek you out (the reason some men have never experienced them) 6) Many men have been killed at their hands.7) They deny their own existence.8) Every one of them I met through a "weird" circumstance or "happenstance" (they could have seeked me out,still not sure on that one) 9) They read this board (especially the BPD threads) YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!

Haha. The second any girl (or person) started talking about Ouija boards or Tarot cards, I would not listen to another word she said.

That is EXTREMELY low quality.

 

[AJ84]

Imagine if anytime a guy didn't do what a girl wanted or expected he was labelled as having anti-social personality disorder.

That's how it seems here with the BPD or bi polar labels. These are serious mental illnesses and they are not rampant in the female population just like anti-social personality disorder isn't rampant in the male population.

Again, I'm sure some people here have had gfs with the disorder but if all of these cases were BPD I would have to seriously question where the hell guys are meeting so many of them, at mental institutions or hospitals ERs? AA?

 

[AJ84]

Because there is a selection bias:

1. Cluster B/Bipolar women are more likely to be single later in life

2. Cluster B/Bipolar women date at an EXTREMELY high velocity and have a new BF once a year. The ones I dated would date 5-15 guys at a time at some level. Look at how the male narcissists here date.

3. Cluster B/Bipolar women are more likely to use online dating as they undermine and collapse their social circles often

4. People who date a cluster B are more likely to seek answers online

5. As implied above, we are not just talking about BPD but all Cluster B disorders. NPDs and BPDs for example are very similar in practice. Bipolar, also. We are talking about a very significant portion of the single dating markets.

Perhaps it seems that way when dealing with challenging behaviour from females. Indeed OLD is a crap
shoot more often than not for both genders.

But to attribute negative behaviour with a mental health diagnosis, to me, is reaching for an explanation when it could be that a lot of men and women who are still single are picky, not sure what they want, are exploring the dating scene, rebounding, lack social skills, want orbiters/plates, or many other reasons why people get frustrated, disappointed etc with dating other single people.

 

[The Duke]

In order to get diagnosed with any of the Cluster B behavior disorders, you need to see a professional. If you never get officially diagnosed then you won't be a part of that statistic will you? This is why the number does not reflect reality and should be much higher than it is.

Now lets look at this from a different angle. You don't have to be officially diagnosed by a psychologist to obtain psych drugs like Xanax, Trazadone, Clonazepam, etc. BUT 20% of the female adult population takes a drug to control psychological issues.

So doesn't it make you wonder why there is such a difference between the 1.6% that are officially diagnosed, and the 20% that take drugs for these types of diagnosis?

And let me tell you from first hand experience, a lot of these girls are getting pills like Xanax with out a prescription. Two girls I dated call up their doctor and sweet talk him and usually get a prescription. Hot girls are rarely ever told NO.

You are telling me you dated girls who didn't take Xanax? I bet you never checked her medicine cabinet, night stand, or purse did you? They keep that secret to themselves most of the time, but Uncle Howie always checks that schitt out so I know what I'm getting myself into.

If you need some mental pill to keep you functioning then you have something wrong with you. Simple as that. I've seen it too many times. There is more crazy out there than the 1.6% that is stated at the beginning of this topic and the point I made about people taking psych drugs supports that.

And let me leave you naysayers with one more thing to digest........there is an increase in mass shootings going on in this country and I'll bet you $1million dollars that every one of those killers has some mental disorder. Now how many of them were officially diagnosed before they performed mass murder? So does that make it less prevalent because it is underdiagnosed?

 

[The Duke]

Perhaps it seems that way when dealing with challenging behaviour from females. Indeed OLD is a crap
shoot more often than not for both genders.

But to attribute negative behaviour with a mental health diagnosis, to me, is reaching for an explanation when it could be that a lot of men and women who are still single are picky, not sure what they want, are exploring the dating scene, rebounding, lack social skills, want orbiters/plates, or many other reasons why people get frustrated, disappointed etc with dating other single people.

You need to go read the Mature Man section. There are some horrible horror stories of guys that got wrapped up with Cluster B girls. There is some stuff that will give you the chills.

Stop trying to downplay this by contributing what you are. That's common sense to intelligent/analytical people. Of course there are idiots that post that schitt. But there are just as many or more that have been abused by Cluster B girls.

 

[AJ84]

You need to go read the Mature Man section. There are some horrible horror stories of guys that got wrapped up with Cluster B girls. There is some stuff that will give you the chills.

Stop trying to downplay this by contributing what you are. That's common sense to intelligent/analytical people. Of course there are idiots that post that schitt. But there are just as many or more that have been abused by Cluster B girls.

Yep, just like there are many women who have been sexually assaulted on dates or met aholes and have lots of horrors stories. There are books on this too. Does that mean that it's prevalent?

No.

I'm not downplaying it I'm trying to put things in perspective. If you believe that most people are a certain way or most men have been abused by cluster b women and you spend time reading stories about it guess what? Most people will seem like cluster b because interactions with them are filtered to feed that assumption.

Women who think men are natural rapists interpret their interactions with them based on that assumption which we all know is wrong.

Some perspective, that's all. I'm not saying that these people don't exist.

 

[Roober]

And to support this, I bet most people could be lumped into this statistic. Most human beings are innately narcissistic.

When I first came to SS, lost, looking for answers, one of the first routes I turned was BPD/NPD. My ex fit about 7 of the traits. But I stopped and said... those traits could fit anyone. Go re-read that nonsense on NIMH or whatever scientific website, and look at the criteria objectively. You could make those criteria fit anyone if it fit with your agenda, or more importantly if you have some sort of negative emotions associated with that individual.

So then I looked inside, looked at my actions over the months we were together, and looked at everything we did together. I was the problem, she was not the problem. It hit me like a ton of bricks one day and I realized everything I had done wrong.

It would be too easy to say she was an NPD/BPD, as I think most of the human populations fits those very vague highly subjective criteria. I was educated in science and am infinitely curious, so this wasn't good enough for me. It just didn't feel right. Instead, I looked inward, and found the true source of her behaviors. It was my lack of leading, my supplication, and on and on. I learned and have improved immensely since then.

We will not improve until we accept that we are part of the problem... It is not easy, but certainly necessary.

 

[Urbanyst]

I don't like the bpd thing much either.

There's some truth to it, but much like "the market is sh*t", it very easily becomes a way of deflecting personal responsibilty.

Seems to me that the red-pill is far easier to take than personal responsibilty for one's own actions.

Funny coming from the guy that harped on the awesomeness of "Poon King" so much (and still does).

Wasn't Poon King hard core RED PILL? Didn't Poon King say today's women are only good for SEX and making babies?

I like how @deesade changes his position depending on who the information is coming from. Sometimes I think he is the one with BPD lol.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Your biggest indicator is the lack of empathy. Period. Once you come across this level of the lack accountability you wont forget it. Selfishness on a whole new level is discovered. This goes beyond being afc or plain bitchy behavior

This.

Guys on here who think they have encountered one of these women but try to lecture us on how they are not that bad and the problem really lies with us on this forum HAVE NOT truly encountered a cluster b. I would hope that you don't ever...even if that means getting 1 or 2 of these types of threads every month.