I'm going to date a bpd chick

[Pandora]

Then you're a moron for dating her.

Every time one of you sissies wants to come here to whine about how you were victimized, I'll be here to kick your sorry as-s back to reality. Hit the gym.

I never said I was victimized. What I am saying is that most of these guys probably actually dated a real BPD chick. Its not just sour grapes. I feel like most of the posters are self aware and intelligent to know when a woman has a legit mental illness. I hate when people downplay this particular mental illness. I used to be a health care professional and I got a medical degree. Not only that I have been personally impacted by mental illness ranging from schizophrenia to BPD ( people close to me had them). So its not cool to act like we are making this stuff up when its a serious and sad thing. Thats all I am saying man. I agree that if you keep dating the BPD after knowing what the illness is then you deserve what is coming to you. But this disease is so bizarre that I will never blame any man for ever being blindsided by it.

 

[bigneil]

I never said I was victimized. What I am saying is that most of these guys probably actually dated a real BPD chick. Its not just sour grapes. I feel like most of the posters are self aware and intelligent to know when a woman has a legit mental illness. I hate when people downplay this particular mental illness. I used to be a health care professional and I got a medical degree. Not only that I have been personally impacted by mental illness ranging from schizophrenia to BPD ( people close to me had them). So its not cool to act like we are making this stuff up when its a serious and sad thing. Thats all I am saying man. I agree that if you keep dating the BPD after knowing what the illness is then you deserve what is coming to you. But this disease is so bizarre that I will never blame any man for ever being blindsided by it.

• You want sympathy because you dated a mentally ill woman?
• You think you deserve credit, as if a non-crazy girl would have liked you just as much?
• Women with low interest do hurtful things, not just crazy women.
• There is nothing bizarre - she lost interest and dumped you and you just couldn't deal with it.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

Would anyone sympathize with the chicks DelusioNeil pays to "date" him seeing as DelusioNeil is obviously mentally ill himself?

 

[Pandora]

• You want sympathy because you dated a mentally ill woman?
• You think you deserve credit, as if a non-crazy girl would have liked you just as much?
• Women with low interest do hurtful things, not just crazy women.
• There is nothing bizarre - she lost interest and dumped you and you just couldn't deal with it.

Huh? Bro I dont understand your reply. My BPD ex did not dump me. I moved away. She was still very much infatuated with me but she was going through the idealization/ deidealization stage. I could have probably made the relationship go on indefinately but it would have been torture and I probably would have been severly depressed. She was gorgeous but the emotional regualtion was non existent. It was too much for me. And I am sure she was going to cheat in the future. They all do.

Where did I say I want sympathy lol. This was not about me. I am saying that BPDs are not simply low interest women. We are not talking about low interest. This is a legit DSM certified mental illness. Like in pathophysiology type stuff. This is not sour grapes. These women have a disease. How is this difficult to understand? I dont think you have actually dated one. People that have dated one know that this is a real medical issue. It is a legit mental illness along the lines of OCD and schizophrenia etc etc.

 

[bigneil]

I could have probably made the relationship go on indefinately but it would have been torture and I probably would have been severly depressed.

Ok, so these BPD women actually have HIGH interest in you, but still are the most evil, vile, hurtful women ever? So you still should get bonus points because of her interest, and a shareable side of sympathy because she's crazy?

If she is certified crazy, guess what? You don't get any credit, so stop whining about it.

What's next? You'll brag about seducing a woman in a straight jacket?

Find a non crazy girl for the love of God.

You BPD whiners should be arrested.

 

[Pandora]

If she is certified crazy, guess what? You don't get any credit, so stop whining about it. Find a non crazy girl for the love of God.

You BPD whiners should be arrested.

I think we are having different convos. I agree that men should move on and find a new girl. I just hate when people like the OP and you in your other post deligitimize a real mental issue. Dont just say that it is a low interest women. It is a sad mental disorder that society needs to address and shed light on. We should be working for a cure for these type of things. These women are products of our broken society. The original poster did not believe that BPD was a real diagnoses. I am correcting him in saying it is indeed real and these men are not just protecting their egos.

 

[bigneil]

I think we are having different convos. I agree that men should move on and find a new girl. I just hate when people like the OP and you in your other post deligitimize a real mental issue. Dont just say that it is a low interest women. It is a sad mental disorder that society needs to address and shed light on. We should be working for a cure for these type of things. These women are products of our broken society. The original poster did not believe that BPD was a real diagnoses. I am correcting him in saying it is indeed real and these men are not just protecting their egos.

She ONCE had high interest, but it's obviously not permanent. See female behavior.

BPD women are not leaving men who they have high interest in for men they have low interest in, simply because they are crazy.

 

[Pandora]

She ONCE had high interest, but it's obviously not permanent. See female behavior.

BPD women are not leaving men who they have high interest in for men they have low interest in, simply because they are crazy.

Bigneil i agree. We are definately on different train of thoughts. Yes, you are right. BPDs leave Beta men in the dust. They date betas for a second and leave then permenantely. Betas cant even keep the attention of BPD's. This is similair to normal women. BUT THIS IS WHERE THE SIMILARITIES STOP.

BPDs do cycle back and forth with high value men. They have this break up make up cycle that they do with men that they love. They constantly fight with guys that they have very high interest in. This is fact. They will fight with you and then a few hours later come crying at your doorstep begging you to take them back. This cycle can happen many times a week. THIS IS NOT NORMAL WOMEN ****. This has nothing to do with high interest or low interest. This is a mental illness.

Have you ever had a girl walk into a room and swear that people were talking **** about her? Or she sees you look at a girl and then swears that you had ****ed her in the past even though this girl was a total stranger? Then you guys fight over this, break up, and she is back in your bed by the evening. This is normal BPD behavior and HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOW INTEREST. IT IS A MENTAL DISEASE.

You ever caught your girl throwing up after a binge session because she is secretly bulemic? She has such bad body image issues that she goes through starvation and binge eating cycles. You ever see her pick at her face and almost self mutilate because she cant stop? No you probably have not.

BPDs will start a fight with you because they are afraid that you will leave them. They do this with HIGH INTEREST men. In fact the higher interest and value you are as a man, the more fights they will have with you. You activate their insecurities because they are constantly afraid that you will abandon them like their fathers and mothers did. Dude this is so much deeper than low interest. You and the OP have no idea what you are talking because you have never really dated a true BPD. If you did you would not say the stuff you say. The guys that have been through it speak on it with respect. This **** is not a game man. Its very scary and sad.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

I think we are having different convos. I agree that men should move on and find a new girl. I just hate when people like the OP and you in your other post deligitimize a real mental issue. Dont just say that it is a low interest women. It is a sad mental disorder that society needs to address and shed light on. We should be working for a cure for these type of things. These women are products of our broken society. The original poster did not believe that BPD was a real diagnoses. I am correcting him in saying it is indeed real and these men are not just protecting their egos.

the problem isn't the nutty chick. it's the dude who ignores the obvious issues and chooses to stay because she's "hot and wild sex". mental illness doesn't just pop up all at once out of nowhere and you just realize it. You choose to stay blind to it till it destroys you.

let's stop dancing around the issue with mental gymnastics.

you caped up choosing a fixer upper because she was "hot and wild sex" and left common sense at the door because your ego told you were better than her and she'll devote herself to you and "owe" you.

it's captain save a hoes deluding themselves for the sake of insecure, needy "validation" by dating a nutcase they willingly overlooked then played "victim" and finger pointed as if they lived under a rock their entire lives and have never witnessed toxic behavior anywhere or anytime by anyone in their life.

 

[Pandora]

the problem isn't the nutty chick. it's the dude who ignores the obvious issues and chooses to stay because she's "hot and wild sex". mental illness doesn't just pop up all at once out of nowhere and you just realize it. You choose to stay blind to it till it destroys you.

let's stop dancing around the issue with mental gymnastics.

you caped up choosing a fixer upper because she was "hot and wild sex" and left common sense at the door because your ego told you were better than her and she'll devote herself to you and "owe" you.

it's captain save a hoes deluding themselves for the sake of insecure, needy "validation" by dating a nutcase they willingly overlooked then played "victim" and finger pointed as if they lived under a rock their entire lives and have never witnessed toxic behavior anywhere or anytime by anyone in their life.

No one is arguin that. Duh. I am addressing your original post where you dimissed BPD as being a real thing. You qoute " just because a chick is a little moody at times doesn't mean she's the end of your world unless you're a weak spineless male pretending to have it together till she doesn't follow your orders". BPD is not just some moody chick that doesnt follow orders. It is a person that is mentally ill and exhibits erractic behavior. You never dated a real BPD so you conflate BPD with a moody girl. You dont know what you are talking about and you dont know how devastating this DISEASE can be. Stop changing the argument to something that it isnt. I am addressing something very specific that you said. It seems like you just want to argue instead of learn.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

No one is arguin that. Duh. I am addressing your original post where you dimissed BPD as being a real thing. You qoute " just because a chick is a little moody at times doesn't mean she's the end of your world unless you're a weak spineless male pretending to have it together till she doesn't follow your orders". BPD is not just some moody chick that doesnt follow orders. It is a person that is mentally ill and exhibits erractic behavior. You never dated a real BPD so you conflate BPD with a moody girl. You dont know what you are talking about and you dont know how devastating this DISEASE can be. Stop changing the argument to something that it isnt. I am addressing something very specific that you said. It seems like you just want to argue instead of learn.

majority of these "bpd" threads are dudes who make professional diagnosis as if they're medical professionals. Even worse is they swear they know more than professionals yet are foolish enough to get involved with a toxic chick to begin with cuz "hot wild sex"!

 

[bigneil]

There has to be a cut off point for crazy. You can't take the crazy train to the last stop and get any respect.

My BPD told me she was in love with someone else and I said goodbye within 3 hours, and 7 weeks later she came back, and I reframed things into a power position (the one up as Matt Cross from 33Secrets calls it).

Men whining about BPD women have stayed in the one down position.

 

[Pandora]

majority of these "bpd" threads are dudes who make professional diagnosis as if they're medical professionals. Even worse is they swear they know more than professionals yet are foolish enough to get involved with a toxic chick to begin with cuz "hot wild sex"!

Ok I feel ya. Maybe that may be the case for alot of these dudes. I dont know bro. But some of these dudes have been through it and it aint trivial.

 

[Pandora]

There has to be a cut off point for crazy. You can't take the crazy train to the last stop and get any respect.

My BPD told me she was in love with someone else and I said goodbye within 3 hours, and 7 weeks later she came back, and I reframed things into a power position (the one up as Matt Cross from 33Secrets calls it).

Men whining about BPD women have stayed in the one down position.

Do you think your ex was legit BPD? Did she cut herself? Did she have unstable relationships with everyone including her family? Did she have a history of substance abuse? Did she have an eating disorder? Was she a stripper etc...These are the symptoms of BPD. What you are descibing is low interest. So i can see why you say BPD is just low interest. You have prob never been with a true BPD bro ( which is a good thing). Date a couple legit pornstars and strippers/ escorts and you will see BPD. I know you date good looking women i have seen the pics but I think they are the classy type. Once you dip into the underworld of strip clubs and porn then you will date the true BPD crazies.

 

[bigneil]

These are the symptoms of BPD. What you are descibing is low interest. So i can see why you say BPD is just low interest. You have prob never been with a true BPD bro ( which is a good thing). Date a couple legit pornstars and strippers/ escorts and you will see BPD. I know you date good looking women i have seen the pics but I think they are the classy type. Once you dip into the underworld of strip clubs and porn then you will date the true BPD crazies.

Do you think your ex was legit BPD?
No.

Did she cut herself?
No, at age 15 she took 1/2 a bottle of Advil, so her doctor diagnosed her.

Did she have unstable relationships with everyone including her family?
No. She met her husband at age 14 and just divorced him at (about) 22.
She loves her dad and he paid for the divorce. I coached her getting back with him. It took 6 months of polishing her. She had been hanging out with strippers and johns and would say things that would scare a buzzard off a sh!twagon, and would say "you look like my dad when you make that face". Once I no longer made that face, her dad took her back, and after 3 months of my coaching her (telling her to hug him, etc) and they were together every day.

Did she have a history of substance abuse?
No substance abuse. The same as me basically. After we dated 4 months, I once tried to give her a line during the Super Bowl and she exhaled through the straw and blew it away out of inexperience. I was relieved.

Did she have an eating disorder?
Sort of. She once had anorexia but now she eats extremely healthy and we agreed on every entrée. I probably cured her with Spirulina, Valerian and bone-in grass-fed beef stock.

Is she a stripper?
Yes. She is a stripper but is my favorite, unusually sweet, smart enough to get by without prostituting herself (I've observed her at three clubs), and desperately trying to stop.

 

[Pandora]

Do you think your ex was legit BPD?
No.

Did she cut herself?
No, at age 15 she took 1/2 a bottle of Advil, so her doctor diagnosed her.

Did she have unstable relationships with everyone including her family?
No. She met her husband at age 14 and just divorced him at (about) 22.
She loves her dad and he paid for the divorce. I coached her getting back with him. It took 6 months of polishing her. She had been hanging out with strippers and johns and would say things that would scare a buzzard off a sh!twagon, and would say "you look like my dad when you make that face". Once I no longer made that face, her dad took her back, and after 3 months of my coaching her (telling her to hug him, etc) and they were together every day.

Did she have a history of substance abuse?
No substance abuse. The same as me basically. After we dated 4 months, I once tried to give her a line during the Super Bowl and she exhaled through the straw and blew it away out of inexperience. I was relieved.

Did she have an eating disorder?
Sort of. She once had anorexia but now she eats extremely healthy and we agreed on every entrée. I probably cured her with Spirulina, Valerian and bone-in grass-fed beef stock.

Is she a stripper?
Yes. She is a stripper but is my favorite, unusually sweet, smart enough to get by without prostituting herself (I've observed her at three clubs), and desperately trying to stop.

Hey man good for you. She sounds relatively sane. And I agree with you that men need to take the blame for being with BPDs. It is ultimately a defect in the mans self worth. I can agree that I should have cut my BPD off before I even moved away. All I am saying that until you have dated an actual BPD ( with all of the cluster B symptoms) it is hard to understand how nutty they are. Think nasty pornstars. We often wonder how they can do they gross stuff they do. Its because many of them are legit BPD and dissassociate during sex. Thats a BPD for you. They call it borderline for a reason. The name came because pyschiatrist noticed that these girls were on the border of full blown psychosis. Until you have dated that you wont fully understand.

 

[bigneil]

Do you think your ex was legit BPD? Did she cut herself? Did she have unstable relationships with everyone including her family? Did she have a history of substance abuse? Did she have an eating disorder? Was she a stripper etc...

Thanks for at least being scientific about diagnosing a woman.

 

[Serenity]

No, self shame is being a man and owning up to the fact your mom turned you into a pansy. I'm here to help kick your sorry as-s back to reality the way your father would have.

I kicked my own ass back, I'm not having any problems with all of this now, I don't currently need help. My father wouldn't have.

 

[exhausted]

"BPD chick" can be simplified to "chick".


Men who don't overinvest and who do have options never declare themselves "f*cked over". See my breakup for an example (she just wrote to me btw). This empowers the woman who you claim hurt you when she really exposed your weakness.

I had many options all thro and still do but still got ****ed over. Over invest could be opinionated not factual.

And secondly aren't u the one who's girl left him for another guy and u are taking her back?

If so wouldnt that show weakness, lack of options and confidence among many other negative characteristics?


Just because a cluster b ****s a guy up for truly loving her and giving her his heart doesn't make him a pos.

Im ****ed up about my situation but im financially successful, have great status, would dismantle almost everyone in this country from a phyical standpoint but a few, have fantastic achievements, but am hurt over the betrayal of a woman. So does that make me a pos?

Am i weak? No hate but i can make a grown man cry literal tears and beg God for me to allow them to live if i wanted.

Am i weak because i dont feel like banging chicks and going on dates asap after a ltr because im mourning the loss and betrayal of my ltr? Does that make me weak for not using a ***** at this age? Or does that show i have character?

No hate seriously.

Strength and weakness can be combined.

And yes i get ur point not every chick is bpd, but if a guy is on this site they either have a crazy ***** and one way or another are weak to an extent for even being on this site instead of just branching carelessly to a new girl. ?

 

[bigneil]

I think we all agree on one thing: the pain we experience with certain women makes us stronger.

Tonight I owned my date because my previous girl toughened me up. They feel that strength (perceived as a lack of neediness).