High value guys - what makes you high value?

[bigneil]

Better and stronger in what way?

1) Higher energy output per day
2) Harder worker
3) Healthier
4) Gets up earlier
5) Takes fewer sick days
6) Smarter (more likely to get hired)
7) Better resume (better pedigree)
8) Tried harder in school (higher GPA)

 

[Meektrop]

1) Higher energy output per day
2) Harder worker
3) Healthier
4) Gets up earlier
5) Takes fewer sick days
6) Smarter (more likely to get hired)
7) Better resume (better pedigree)
8) Tried harder in school (higher GPA)

Neil, you're doing it again! All of that besides the school part is irrelevant in this economic climate you can work 18 hours a day 7 days a week and still just be skirting by... wages are lower expenses are higher

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Neil, you're doing it again! All of that besides the school part is irrelevant in this economic climate you can work 18 hours a day 7 days a week and still just be skirting by... wages are lower expenses are higher

Where is all the money?

The United States has a GDP of almost $20 trillion, meaning that firms in our country sell $20 trillion of goods and services in one year. Why is there not money for the common man?

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

You absolutely cannot state this. The guy who has money is more likely to be a better, stronger man. Thus, the woman who chooses to reproduce the better, stronger man is not inferior by defalt. There are exceptions, but you can't declare women who don't go for money as intrinsically more special.

@Listen_to_Olly, lover of male bartenders, is that you?

The guy with money is also as likely to be just another suit in the machine. He may have developed his worldly wealth, but this could have been at the expense of all inner growth. There is no Wealth but Life. A woman of substance wants the same in a man.

I am not being anti-money here, it is more about getting a balance. Money is just the means to pursue worthier ends. It is not an end in itself. Yet sadly, money seems to corrupt our character.... to the point where we lose sight of it as a means and can not say 'enough'.

 

[bigneil]

He may have developed his worldly wealth, but this could have been at the expense of all inner growth.

Inner growth comes from carrying a suitcase around the country for 20+ years, as you earn wordly wealth.

Women consider wordly wealth to be higher value than inner growth.

 

[Meektrop]

Where is all the money?

The United States has a GDP of almost $20 trillion, meaning that firms in our country sell $20 trillion of goods and services in one year. Why is there not money for the common man?

Really? REALLY???? Capitalism is built on exploitation rofl your sounding like a socialist now... not that it's a bad thing, but that's not how our economy works.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Inner growth comes from carrying a suitcase around the country for 20+ years, as you earn wordly wealth.

Women consider wordly wealth to be higher value than inner growth.

Sure, but you're generalizing. I prefer to discriminate between women in general [which are as you describe], and the few women that I find attractive. If you pursue you own self-determined set of values, you will also pursue the kind of women who falls within them.

Too many guys put the cart before the horse - they think 'what do women want?', and then spend their life trying to cater to that.

 

[zekko]

What doesn't make me worthy? I am charismatic attractive intelligent and honest.

There's an old saying: That, and a dime, will get you a cup of coffee. Well, it used to, anyway.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

There's an old saying: That, and a dime, will get you a cup of coffee. Well, it used to, anyway.

Damn, that and a dime won't get you a dame?

 

[Meektrop]

There's an old saying: That, and a dime, will get you a cup of coffee. Well, it used to, anyway.

Lol wow! I just can't... your views on the world are so bitter

 

[Thorninmyside]

What makes a man high value? Ask his woman.

Assumes the woman is also high value. Otherwise, it could be argued that the 21 year old your last girl left you for is of higher value than yourself. I doubt even your detractors would say that is the case. The customer isn't always right.

You could modify that to say that it's about the women you can keep rather than just the ones you can get, but even then, if my hottest plate bailed on me tomorrow, would I feel lower value than today? Doubtful.

 

[zekko]

Lol wow! I just can't... your views on the world are so bitter

Nah, I'm not bitter. I have a pretty rosy world view. I'm like a happy little lark.
I was just making the point that anyone can say they have value, but it's better if you have something substantial to back it up.
And I admit I was jerking your chain a little.
To be fair, looks and charisma are both valuable assets when it comes to dating.

Intelligence and honesty are both traits that are looked upon with contempt by PUA gurus. In Heartiste's Dating Market Value test, you lost points if you are too smart. Intelligence can help in life though, and I believe it can help in dating too, depending on where your smarts are located. I value honesty myself, but the seduction community doesn't.

 

[Meektrop]

Nah, I'm not bitter. I have a pretty rosy world view. I'm like a happy little lark.
I was just making the point that anyone can say they have value, but it's better if you have something substantial to back it up.
And I admit I was jerking your chain a little.
To be fair, looks and charisma are both valuable assets when it comes to dating.

Intelligence and honesty are both traits that are looked upon with contempt by PUA gurus. In Heartiste's Dating Market Value test, you lost points if you are too smart. Intelligence can help in life though, and I believe it can help in dating too, depending on where your smarts are located. I value honesty myself, but the seduction community doesn't.

Respect Brother, appreciate you. Yeah I'm not much of a PUA i dont follow that dogma not too intrested in a continuous plate spinning lifestyle. but most of redpill theory i know thru experience which is why I am congregating here so much. truth be told im a monogomist dreamer.
In my experience intelligence helps with women but that doesn't mean your IQ is more important than your EQ. As far as generating income I am In a industry where my qualities shine I make good money but I'm In California and the cost of living is too high if your not making over baseline 6 figures

 

[bigneil]

Assumes the woman is also high value. Otherwise, it could be argued that the 21 year old your last girl left you for is of higher value than yourself.

In that case, if I asked her in June what made him high value, she would have said "High value is someone I've known since I was 13", which at the time was higher value than what I had to offer, because she became homeless around that age, and lost her virginity shortly after, and then ended up married at 18 (and now divorced at 21). But weeks later she came to her senses and realized her 21 year old boy toy can't pay the bills (and apparently doesn't have a rich dad to cosign the mortgage), so now her answer would be different, hence she is back.

Women can only describe what they feel in the moment, so their idea of value will indeed fluctuate.

 

[Meektrop]

In that case she would have said "Someone I've known since I was 13", which at the time was higher value than what I had to offer, because she became homeless around that age, and lost her virginity shortly after. But she eventually came to her senses and realized he can't pay the bills, so now her answer would be different.

Women can only describe what they feel in the moment, so their idea of value will indeed fluctuate.

Why can't she pay her own bills?

 

[bigneil]

Whether or not they are faithful to us, beautiful 21 year old women are high value.

Why can't she pay her own bills?

Why can't a 21 year old woman support herself? When most men that age can't? Are you a Feminist?

Anyhow, paying the bills is what she is going to do. She wrote to me to tell me she is taking the job I got her in March, and probably is hoping to do more photo work.

 

[Meektrop]

Well some would call that trickin... but since you apparently have it. And you know what they also say it ain't tricking if you got it.

 

[Meektrop]

Whether or not they are faithful to us, beautiful 21 year old women are high value.


Why can't a 21 year old woman support herself? When most men that age can't? Are you a Feminist?

Anyhow, paying the bills is what she is going to do. She wrote to me to tell me she is taking the job I got her in March, and probably is hoping to do more photo work.

Aight we come from different environments brother that's why we can't understand eachother... I make my living by getting payed by b1tches but I'm still a young guy and im smart about it I don't fvck them never mix business and pleasure. But yeah whatever works for you If I had a fat house and financial security I would just grab the prettiest girl I could find and have her live with me

 

[bigneil]

It's different if you're her age or closer.

She hasn't seen me since I weighed 230lb in May. I now weigh 215 (thanks to her inspiring me to hire a physical trainer).

And that's more like I lost 25 lb of fat and gained 10 lb of muscle.

Therefore, I am willing to see her again to test whether my new physique makes a difference. I already fell for her so that part is too late.

 

[Meektrop]

It's different if you're her age or closer.

She hasn't seen me since I weighed 230lb in May. I now weigh 215 (thanks to her inspiring me to hire a physical trainer).

And that's more like I lost 25 lb of fat and gained 10 lb of muscle.

Therefore, I am willing to see her again to test whether my new physique makes a difference. I already fell for her so that part is too late.

Oh I get you brother I fell for one too I made a post about it. Ain't no shame we know better, but the heart wants what it wants and no amount of redpill or PUA dogma will ever change that. Ces't la vie