High value guys - what makes you high value?

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Show us some better girls then.




The first one is pretty cute second is no... besides that I don't understand what you are doing or trying to prove brother rofl. Have more respect for the girls you are fvcking with than post them on a forum with a bunch of people you don't know. Maybe we should compare **** measurements next or better yet let's post our T levels rofl...

See folks this is what I mean by integrity you don't have to fvck 200 girls and keep those notches or pics as trophies. But if you're all about that power to you.
But if you have morals and a code than you just need a solid female to see what you are about and recognize it
 

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What is this, good vs evil? lol

I thought you guys wanted to learn how to get pvssy, not how to uphold the highest of the high laws and do right by others even when they do you wrong.

On average, the guys here are mentally weak and unable to see how nasty the game really is. I can't help you
This site is about a lot more than just getting pussy. To just get pussy is easy, but that doesn't necessarily make you a socially valued man. You don't need high value to get pussy, any guy can get that regardless of his moral standards.

You don't have to be a doormat, you don't have to be an asshole to not be a doormat. It's not that hard to be a good guy and score even more pussy than you would with "nasty game".

I don't find the game to be nasty, but sure it feels that way to a guy raging because he simply sucks. Easier to blame something intangible like "the nasty game" than to wake the fuck up and think.

I don't need your help. I've heard the same shit on repeat for 4 years on this forum, I have read what you tell me hundreds of times before. I've outgrown this forum, just a few high ranking members actually gets what I'm conveying.
 

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I have been experiencing this more and more in recent years. The game is changing, it's becoming dirtier and more feminized every day. I will go as far as saying that the value systems in places are also undergoing a change. Integrity, trust, character aren't worth sh$t nowadays. A lot of guys, especially the older ones haven't realized it yet. Richard's argument stays true, but it comes from a position of a boss, a man that by default has authority and hiring/firing powers. If you find yourself among perceived "equals", this argument no longer stands.
Exactly, but what frog was saying applies only to certain men. No man who truly holds his own will respect his status just because he has it. Respect is earned. Courtesy is given.

In a social setting, his status means nothing if I squash him in public.
 

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I love you brother. This is exactly what I was trying to get at but rofl I lack the linguistic skills you got to put my thoughts into writing.
Don't feel bad, I majored in language arts and teach psychology for a living. This type of thing is sort of what I do best, haha.
 
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Exactly, but what frog was saying applies only to certain men. No man who truly holds his own will respect his status just because he has it. Respect is earned. Courtesy is given.

In a social setting, his status means nothing if I squash him in public.
If we happened to be at the same public place, I wouldn't even talk to you, let alone worry about earning your respect.

Why wouldn't I talk to you? Because I don't know you and have no need to include you in my life or be included in yours. I would have no need for our paths to cross.

Plus, I never claimed to have "status." I'm not even sure such a thing exists in a democratic society. I could definitely have MONEY, but I'd probably keep quiet about that around strangers.
 

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This site is about a lot more than just getting pussy. To just get pussy is easy, but that doesn't necessarily make you a socially valued man. You don't need high value to get pussy, any guy can get that regardless of his moral standards.

You don't have to be a doormat, you don't have to be an asshole to not be a doormat. It's not that hard to be a good guy and score even more pussy than you would with "nasty game".

I don't find the game to be nasty, but sure it feels that way to a guy raging because he simply sucks. Easier to blame something intangible like "the nasty game" than to wake the fuck up and think.

I don't need your help. I've heard the same shit on repeat for 4 years on this forum, I have read what you tell me hundreds of times before. I've outgrown this forum, just a few high ranking members actually gets what I'm conveying.
Why do you care so much about perceived value? You sound like you want to please the world.

You also sound like an old washed up guy that doesn't get too "lucky" as I'm sure you would call it. Your perception of game matches how rigid your personality is. You haven't seen the good / nasty part of it because you aren't able to get into those situations because to you they're probably wrong.

Wake up and think? There's nothing to think about with game. Either you know what you're doing or you don't.
 

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If we happened to be at the same public place, I wouldn't even talk to you, let alone worry about earning your respect.

Why wouldn't I talk to you? Because I don't know you and have no need to include you in my life or be included in yours. I would have no need for our paths to cross.

Plus, I never claimed to have "status." I'm not even sure such a thing exists in a democratic society. I could definitely have MONEY, but I'd probably keep quiet about that around strangers.
I understand what you're saying, but Not my point.

My point is that given that my (or anyone else's) personality may ruffle someone's feathers and cause that person to do something that could be perceived as disrespectful. If no apology is awarded after, the offended party would benefit from using that person to boost their perceived status. Which is why status doesn't exist. It's all a manageable facade

I only mentioned you because I can see that I ruffle your feathers. Nothing personal.
 

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In a social setting, his status means nothing if I squash him in public.
Catch 22/devil's advocate here...but if he has high value and believes in himself, you squashing him in public A)won't mean a thing to him, and B)possibly wouldn't even happen in the first place.

Point is...you can call it "being an alpha", you can call it "having high market value", you can call it whatever you want to and it's all the same thing in the end. It all comes down to self-improvement...becoming something genuinely worth being, followed by the self-actualization and awareness in yourself and what you are, and then finally understanding that you don't need to worry about socialization and approval any more. If/when that all hits, you shouldn't be worried about anything anymore and you'll actually find yourself being more concerned with trying to better others and helping to work on their situations as opposed to your own self.

If you're actually worth a damn...you're not going to care about status and material things as props, and you'll strangely begin to focus on trying to help others better themselves. You'll feel a brick to the face with a note attached to it saying "You're one hell of a person...what could you possibly have to lose or be afraid of?" and the rest will be easy from there.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Just going with the vibe of your insult to see how far you'll take it
Oh see that's where we got off on the wrong foot that was not an insult. It was just the observation of your statement. You should never dominate weaker men. Having that mentality looks like you got something to prove, fvck all that you know what your about and real recognize real. Keep it courteous until they test you... then fire off if you got to.
 

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Oh see that's where we got off on the wrong foot that was not an insult. It was just the observation of your statement. You should never dominate weaker men. Having that mentality looks like you got something to prove, fvck all that you know what your about and real recognize real. Keep it courteous until they test you... then fire off if you got to.
Yea no worries, man. If you and the disrespectful person are in a social setting and they step wrong then destroy them if you'd like. It shows strength, etc.

I see what you were saying too. I can definitely see how the things I was saying appears to be bullying if read in a different headspace. I'm glad we figured it out though.

Catch 22/devil's advocate here...but if he has high value and believes in himself, you squashing him in public A)won't mean a thing to him, and B)possibly wouldn't even happen in the first place.

Point is...you can call it "being an alpha", you can call it "having high market value", you can call it whatever you want to and it's all the same thing in the end. It all comes down to self-improvement...becoming something genuinely worth being, followed by the self-actualization and awareness in yourself and what you are, and then finally understanding that you don't need to worry about socialization and approval any more. If/when that all hits, you shouldn't be worried about anything anymore and you'll actually find yourself being more concerned with trying to better others and helping to work on their situations as opposed to your own self.

If you're actually worth a damn...you're not going to care about status and material things as props, and you'll strangely begin to focus on trying to help others better themselves. You'll feel a brick to the face with a note attached to it saying "You're one hell of a person...what could you possibly have to lose or be afraid of?" and the rest will be easy from there.
OP asked about how to increase perceived value. I revealed ways to increase perceived value, how to control perception with minimal risk. Squashing him in person won't ruin his self confidence if he's a solid guy, but itll make me look better. It'll increase my 'value' in they eyes of the sheep (because that's who respects value without the person having to earn it) and earn his respect because he will see that he disrespected me and see I stood up to myself.

He didn't ask how to be a better person.

I'm not concerned with being alpha or any of that stuff, bud so save it.
 

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One could argue that instead of having a good job, positive attitude, being fairly handsome and taking care of one's self that instead having a high value for what the entitled spoiled brat schit woman wants today is a guy she can boss around and control.

This is why relationships Dont work out anymore, the woman doesn't know her place in the family.

And i mean that genuinely.
 

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One could argue that instead of having a good job, positive attitude, being fairly handsome and taking care of one's self that instead having a high value for what the entitled spoiled brat schit woman wants today is a guy she can boss around and control.

This is why relationships Dont work out anymore, the woman doesn't know her place in the family.

And i mean that genuinely.
Majority yes but the flip to that is most Guys are trash too...
 

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The first one is pretty cute second is no... besides that I don't understand what you are doing or trying to prove brother rofl. Have more respect for the girls you are fvcking with than post them on a forum with a bunch of people you don't know. Maybe we should compare **** measurements next or better yet let's post our T levels rofl...

See folks this is what I mean by integrity you don't have to fvck 200 girls and keep those notches or pics as trophies. But if you're all about that power to you.
But if you have morals and a code than you just need a solid female to see what you are about and recognize it
Blah blah blah. You've been here one week and have zero women that I've seen. Your "guarantee" has no money backing it.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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