Do Girls Really Care About You for You?

[highSpeed]

We're constantly told "that girl only cares about money, but a nice girl will love you for YOU". However, I was thinking about some of my special talents, the things that define me, and to be honest, I don't think any woman ever really gave me any credit for them.

Examples:

1) I've been an organic chef since 1997. I can cook healthier and tastier meals than you would get at the finest 5 star restaurants. Things like organic, bone-in, grass fed beef stew, yeast-free pizza or homemade guacamole. Do you think any women ever said "Let's just stay home and you can cook?" No, because it secretly bothers women to think you are saving money. They prefer restaurants where they know you are spending more.

2) I'm an artist. I can draw women. I capture beautiful images of them. Women don't seem to even care about artists anymore.

3) I'm a musician. I can play the drums. Drummers have rhythm and are intrinsically the best dancers. But I never had a groupie.

4) I'm a naturopath, a healer, a real doctor (called a quack since 1913 when the AMA was bought out by Rockefeller trust). I can heal almost any illness with herbs. Most women frown upon it and ask their doctor, and tell me the benefits of vaccines. Oh, and they'll brag about their friend and say "She dates a DOCTOR!"

I was wondering what YOUR special talents are, and whether you ever found a woman who valued them more than money or lust. If anything, I feel that women are told never to appreciate a man's special talents, but to prove that she can do whatever he can.

short answer here Neil, f*ck no they don't care about you. They only care about what they can get you to do for them. Think about it, if the fact that you are a musician, artist, naturopath, cook, athlete advances them, gives them more resources or puts attention on them? You're golden. If any of those things put attention on you or doesn't highlight them in some way, they don't give a sh*t. As a matter of fact, if it doesn't highlight them or help them, they become jealous, p*ssed off about it and downright hostile towards it. Think about all of your interactions with women who you are involved with and tell me I'm wrong.

 

[GhostOfCordon]

I think you could say this about almost anyone these days. We live in such a me first, me now, social media, please me asap society that it is very hard to find anyone who really gives a **** about you and who you are.

 

[bigneil]

I suppose we become like the unappreciated parent or sibling.

One skill of mine that girls do appreciate: photography. Because the photos were of them. The most important thing a girl remembers is how you make them feel. I genuinely thought my last girl was the most beautiful girl in the world, which is probably why she stayed so long. This is good news for us. It means the girls we like the most will often like us better.

 

[Urbanyst]

One of the most overrated aspects in seduction is attraction. People always tell you to be attractive and everything will take care of itself. What people don't often talk about is the entitled female ego in 2017. Attraction doesn't buy you unconditional love. Being attractive gives you an opportunity to give HER value! Most women are takers of value.

Being attractive just means you have a greater opportunity to serve women. That's how it works in a matriarchy.

If you think women actually care about you, talk about your talents in front of her. She will lose interest in 5 seconds and try to change the topic to something about HER (You talking about yourself is not giving her any value). Even if your talents has to do with making money, her only concern is how your making money is benefiting her, not you.

This is why every single seduction technique is about offering value, making women feel good emotions, putting the attention on the woman, validating her, and feeding her ego.

A relationship is actually for a woman to validate herself (with a high status guy who is controllable), not for her to submit. This isn't the 1990's anymore. This isn't your grandfather's relationship.

Incidentally, I've noticed that most guys are the complete opposite. Guys actually fall in love with women who have inner beauty/substance that goes with their outer beauty.

2017 women want to be worshiped. They don't want a partnership, they want an underling with a "curfew" and rules to follow.

This is why OLD beta game works so well these days. It communicates to women that you are a trained dog in need of a master. What women rate each other on today is how high STATUS of a man she can turn into a b*tch.

Attraction to bad boys and guys with MONEY comes from the need to out rank other women. Guys with a lot of sexual choices won't be turned into a b*tch as easily. It would take a special woman to do that. Its not about love for women. Its a sick and dysfunctional game of getting a man to submit through emotional abuse. Then bragging about it.

 

[Desdinova]

Tommy Lee was Motley Crue's drummer... who did Vince Neil marry? Not Pamela Anderson and Heather Locklear.

Everyone in Motley Crue could get anybody they wanted because they were in Motley Crue. When you're in a local bar band, you're not exactly on the same level as Motley Crue.

 

[exhausted]

The only thing a woman appreciates its brutal honesty, domination,and being ****ed like an animal.

All that extra, that martha stewart stuff..is for the birds.

**** man she dont even appreciate that

 

[exhausted]

2017 women want to be worshiped. They don't want a partnership, they want an underling with a "curfew" and rules to follow.

This is why OLD beta game works so well these days. It communicates to women that you are a trained dog in need of a master. What women rate each other on today is how high STATUS of a man she can turn into a b*tch.

Attraction to bad boys and guys with MONEY comes from the need to out rank other women. Guys with a lot of sexual choices won't be turned into a b*tch as easily. It would take a special woman to do that. Its not about love for women. Its a sick and dysfunctional game of getting a man to submit through emotional abuse. Then bragging about it.

Absolutely spot on.
This is why I couldn't get along with my ex npd as they are control freaks and she admitted it every time.
I'm not built to let the irresponsible gf to cotrol the money and make decisions when all she does is make bad ones, admits it but cant let go of the control.

It was like butting heads with an idiot all the time.

 

[Cambridge]

I feel it's extremely rare that a girl will brag to another girl that her man has certain talents.

Correct. The word you are looking for is competence. That is how women see your skills. If you meet a woman who is a talented painter or plumber would you regard that talent as worthless too?

 

[bigneil]

Correct. The word you are looking for is competence. That is how women see your skills. If you meet a woman who is a talented painter or plumber would you regard that talent as worthless too?

No, most men will say "She's not only pretty, but she can DO something!!!"

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Do women really care about you for you? Become HOMELESS and find out.

When I was 21-22, I was homeless in a college town and girls would offer me a place to stay.

I don't think that would work now that I'm 30.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Everyone in Motley Crue could get anybody they wanted because they were in Motley Crue. When you're in a local bar band, you're not exactly on the same level as Motley Crue.

But even guys in local bands and local disc jockeys date some of the hottest bartenders, etc.

But I would attribute this to the stupidity of young females, as oppose to any actual value that those guys possess. They don't actually make real money doing these gigs.

 

[bigneil]

When I was 21-22, I was homeless in a college town and girls would offer me a place to stay.

I don't think that would work now that I'm 30.

I was 43 and two Russian girls (one college aged, the other 31) let me move in, and I ended up seducing the older one.

 

[darksprezzatura]

Women care about you intensely as long as you satisfy their hypergamic impulses.

Imagine them like monkeys.
If she thinks she found a stronger branch than you, she'll swing/jump to it.

It doesn't matter if the new branch eventually breaks, she'll want to come right back if you remain strong.

Most guys, or branches break due to the force of her jumping away. Don't.

There's always another better monkey needing a branch as long as you nurture yourself and become stronger.

 

[Cambridge]

A great test for a girl is to assign her a task. See if she can sell a CD on eBay or something. You'll see how useless a lot of girls are.

Interesting. Do you have any more examples of these tasks? Do you use the results of said tasks to qualify how much you'll invest in the relationship? How effective has it been?

 

[Urbanyst]

Women care about you intensely as long as you satisfy their hypergamic impulses.

Imagine them like monkeys.
If she thinks she found a stronger branch than you, she'll swing/jump to it.

It doesn't matter if the new branch eventually breaks, she'll want to come right back if you remain strong.

Most guys, or branches break due to the force of her jumping away. Don't.

There's always another better monkey needing a branch as long as you nurture yourself and become stronger.

Become a tree instead by spinning plates and earning as much MONEY as you can.

 

[Cambridge]

Most women are takers of value.

Please, go on...

 

[bigneil]

Interesting. Do you have any more examples of these tasks? Do you use the results of said tasks to qualify how much you'll invest in the relationship? How effective has it been?

Sure:

1) Hire them for a photo shoot and tell them exactly what to wear, how to style their hair, nails and makeup and where to show up at what time. See if they are 100% punctual (all of the models I've shown have been - a huge sign that they are reliable).
2) Get them to Uber or drive for more than an hour to see you.
3) Plan an overnight trip together.
4) Get them to agree to fly on a plane with you.
5) Get her to take YOU on a date and pay for everything (they often really enjoy this).
6) Get her to blow up your phone.
7) Cancel a date and have her talk you into seeing her.

 

[Cambridge]

1) Hire them for a photo shoot and tell them exactly what to wear, how to style their hair, nails and makeup and where to show up at what time. See if they are 100% punctual (all of the models I've shown have been - a huge sign that they are reliable).
2) Get them to Uber or drive for more than an hour to see you.
3) Plan an overnight trip together.
4) Get them to agree to fly on a plane with you.
5) Get her to take YOU on a date and pay for everything (they often really enjoy this).
6) Get her to blow up your phone.
7) Cancel a date and have her talk you into seeing her.

Saved these, thank you. You believe there are different types of women? e.g. not a consummate hypergamists, not a plate spinner, etc?