I let her "walk" after a blowout. I've gone NC. Right, wrong? Thoughts please.

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Gee, it's not totally over. She sent two messages calling you an assh0le.
Neil man when you post stuff like this it really doesnt add to much to the guys who are still learning.
I detect strongly that you dont have much compassion wich ALL great men are supposed have. I. Starting to wonder if this is nothing more then a competition for you or a major ego feed.
Im sure the guy is doing the best he can and i didnt get a sense the man was whining. These conditions are real and they are documented by experts all over the globe.

Somtimes our reactions convey what we are truly inside while speaking in an objective way to the benefit and teaching of somone less refined in the way of things...
If these whiners want f*cking compassion, they came to the wrong place. I'm not their mommy.

99% of the men here want to whine about the craziest 1% of the women. BPD is absolutely, totally over diagnosed here and frankly I'm tired of men who pretend they understand this condition and other men saying they are devastated by a break up. The more it hurt, the weaker you were. Been there, done that.

I actually just broke up with an actual, twice-diagnosed BPD and I never once said that was a factor. She lost interest in me. I turned her off somehow. But I gave a clinic on how to handle losing your dream girl (my new 20 year old love is on the way), so some might find my advice useful here.

To help cope, I recommend Bob Dylan Blood on the Tracks (the whole album).
 

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stringpuller, who the f*ck are you? You joined one month ago. OP has been a member longer than me though, so I'll cut him slack. Funny how you act like you know me even though you're new here. I'll bet I kicked your ass into creating new SS a counts half dozen times already.
Starting to wonder if this is nothing more then a competition for you or a major ego feed.These conditions are real and they are documented by experts all over the globe.
Guess what? I'm an expert here, on the site you just joined. I created exactly ONE account, 11 years ago. As far as what other members think of me, consider.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/members/?type=likes

The funny part is, I'm not a like seeker. God knows I've said some of the most unpopular, outrageous and least likeable things ever. I'm like Trump.
 

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OP here:

@bigneil: Hey homes, I appreciate the feedback and sorry about the situation with your exgf. If she was a bona fide BPD'er then you know there's a solid chance there's nothing you could have done to save things. You're right in moving on, brother. Nobody is making a diagnosis here on this post. Just saying she has most classical signs of BPD, that's it. She also goes to therapy once/week and takes a SSRI. Not deal breakers, we all have issues.

But, can we keep on this discussion on topic regarding my post. Maybe someone could start another post about over-diagnosis of BPD, NPD, BP, whatever.

Cool?

Danka!
 

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@bigneil is just sick of everything being attributed to a major rare mental disorder, as am I.

You guys do know people can have flaws without having a mental disorder right? Just because she is a jealous bítch doesn't mean she's borderline. It's actually kind of silly how much guys here say it.

"Man this chick ate my sandwich I left in the Fridge after I explicitly told her not to. I think she may be BPD."

That's not how mental disorders work.

OP you handled the situation expertly. You called her out on her bad behavior and you didn't apologize.

You couldn't have handled it any better.

I wouldn't even had admitted to looking though, I just would've told her: 'I look where I want.'

I'm a little confused because it's been 10 days and I would have expected to contact you by then. This must have been the first time she's encountered a man with balls... ever. 10 days is still a crazy amount of time so either she wasn't as interested as you thought initially or she was really thunderstruck by you calling her out.

Either way maintain no contact, she'll reach out eventually. If you continue to continue the relationship it's plate status from here on in. In relationships you can't just disappear for 10 days.

Also, the other guys are right. A month is to soon to be exclusive. If she can't wait longer than a month, she wants it for the wrong reasons.

Wow ten days out and you have not heard from her... that is not a good sign man..

Especially when she kicked off about something so fukin trivial..

You didn't try to fuk this woman, all you did was glance.. it's not a crime.

She is punishing you for her own insecurities and flaws..

My ex cut me off the phone, because I called her out on her bad behaviour..

She cut me off mid sentence, then didn't turn up for our date...

I did not hear from her for 5 days... my reaction??

I dumped her... when your girl disappears from your life for 10 days, only because you stood up for yourself, that is totally unacceptable..

Personaly i would demote to fb or dump her
 

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But, can we keep on this discussion on topic regarding my post. Maybe someone could start another post about over-diagnosis of BPD, NPD, BP, whatever.
I was on topic. The topic was, you're a big wussy whining on a men's forum about how your girl might have been f*cking insane to leave you when there is a ONE PERCENT CHANCE of that and a NINETY NINE PERCENT CHANCE she just lost interest in you.
 

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I was on topic. The topic was, you're a big wussy whining on a men's forum about how your girl might have been f*cking insane to leave you when there is a ONE PERCENT CHANCE of that and a NINETY NINE PERCENT CHANCE she just lost interest in you.
1) Why are you attacking this man like it is 100% his fault that she MIGHT have lost interest in him? Judging from the way he behaves as a man, I think this is not the kinda man you lose interest in, unless you're a snowflake who just wants her way with men cause you have a vagina and when you don't get it, you bail out. I think this chick is plain nuts.

2) There are many mental disorders undiagnosed by an expert out there. Doesn't mean they don't have a mental disorder.

3) I agree that we're hearing one side of the story here, but I still think him checking out another girl and her freaking out and going balistic on him IN PUBLIC is a strong reason to believe he avoided a big headache in the future life. This chick is highly probably an unstable, jealous piece of ****, unclassy and not one you would want as a teammate in the relationship.
 

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I recently went exclusive with a girl I was dating. We have had an absolute blast the past month or so hiking, dining, whitewater rafting, paddle boarding, etc. She's a HB/8.5. We see each other every 3-4 days. We text in-between our dates but not incessantly. The chemistry is really good between us. Lot's of fun. There is a lot of mutual attraction and the conversation is good. I throw her a lot of crap regularly and am huge on C&F. l tease her a lot. I’m 10+ years older than her.

We had a great time paddle boarding about a week and a half ago. We came back to my place and ate some dinner and then had really great sex as we always do, just saying. We then walked my dog to the dog park and there were a few people there. There was one very good-looking woman (maybe 40?) there talking with another woman. As we were leaving, I did glance (for the record: no smile, no eye contact, no "hi," no wave--just a glance) at the woman for maybe 2-3 seconds. My girlfriend who was maybe 10 feet me starts yelling fairly loud “Do you see something you LIKE Dash!!??” It was kind of embarrassing but I shrugged it off as to not make a scene then and there to draw more attention, and actually started laughing, and then calmly walked out of the park. As soon as we were out of the fenced dog area and were walking home, she kept on me about what I liked about the girl. I said all I did was glance at the group and down played it. Finally, I said ok, I like the way she wore her hair just to end the conversation. I reminded my gf I was with her--and her only and to just drop it. She continued to barrage me with other nit-picks after which I said firmly "I'm not apologizing for anything because I didn't do anything wrong. Drop it." She then started walking 20-30 feet behind me and my dog, kind of pouting. I kept telling her to come with us but she wouldn’t. Finally, I turned towards her, still standing 20 feet away and said very firmly"I don't care for your behavior or attitude, now come on." She just stood there 20 feet behind me, now with her mouth literally open. So, I started walking home alone. I get home and she shows up 5 minutes later, laughing to herself. She goes upstairs, changes into nicer clothes she initially came over with, and heads for the door. I called her name (I was going to tell her to never, ever call me out in public like that again), but she said she had no interest in anything I wanted to say. I offered her a ride home but she said she could get one (I doubt it). She walked out the door and left. She lives maybe 1.5 miles away along well-lit roads so I assume she just walked home. Basically, I just let her walk. Didn't come after her, nothing. She was behaving badly, I called her out on it, and she left on her own accord. It's been NC by both of us since (about 10 days).

I’m absolutely baffled by the bizarre behavior especially after the awesome day we had. She seems to be wildly jealous and was always asking (somewhat jokingly) how many women hit on me today or approached me. Really put the hard sell on me to be exclusive so about a week before this fight I said "We could try it."

I think there's a really good chance she's BPD or a "Borderline" as they're called as she meets many of the classic signs.

Has anyone had a similar experience? Outcome? Was she a Borderline? I’m wondering if this is a benign event due to bad timing, PMS, whatever. Seems really extreme. I kind of feel like I got the electric chair for having an overdue parking ticket. Ok, I "glanced" at a hot chick. People look at attractive people. It's human nature. I'm thinking this is what I would have to look forward to many more times if I were to be with her long term. I'm also thinking she may have some serious psychological/emotional issues. Blows because we had a really good connection before this fight.

Any thoughts appreciated

Thank you.

Dash

OP is there any underlying issues at play here?

01. Has she ever caught you cheating?

02. Have you at any point overtly flirted with other females infront of her?

03. Are you checking out or looking at other Vagina infront of her quite regular?

04. Has she shown signs of jealous rage before?

05. Hows your sex life with her?


There maybe more to this story, than the op has revealed..

We often jump to conclusions, and give out the same old generic advice..

Dump her.. She must be bdp.. your princess is in another castle.. Your not a man, be a fukin man!
 

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1) There are many mental disorders undiagnosed by an expert out there. Doesn't mean they don't have a mental disorder.
The onus is on him to prove she had a mental disorder AND that it was a factor. We don't assume everyone has a disorder that only affects 1% of the population.

So maybe the guy was perfect and she just had a mental disorder? That's what some of you are insisting is very likely?
 

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OP is there any underlying issues at play here?

01. Has she ever caught you cheating?

02. Have you at any point overtly flirted with other females infront of her?

03. Are you checking out or looking at other Vagina infront of her quite regular?

04. Has she shown signs of jealous rage before?

05. Hows your sex life with her?
1- No, never cheated on her. Never gave her reasons to suspect anything.

2- No, We hung out, hiked, went to dinner, events, whitewater rafted, and paddle boarded. There really weren't many instances where I would be in a situation to even make her jealous.

3- Very discreetly.

4- YES and YES. Hugely jealous. She would stay over, I would get ready for work, and she would ask me how many women will hit on me today, how many usually approach me, etc. When we started hanging out, I was with someone else but not exclusively. I told this girl that. She was INSISTENT on knowing "what the other girl has that I don't." This was brought up by her a number of times. I would just usually laugh and say, drop it. She was the most jealous woman I think I've ever dated--easily.

5- It rocked. This girl has a porn star body (all natural) and will do it all. Really fun, whimsical personality too until she goes full-on psycho and loses it like she did at the dog park. Another flag for me for a LTR, anyway. I think she's the kind of girl you f*ck but not marry.

Also strongly suspected illicit drug use (coke). I can go into detail if anyone's interested. I've known people who have used before and she had almost all their habits. I calmly asked her once if she uses, as if it's no big deal, but she calmly denied.
 

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1- No, never cheated on her. Never gave her reasons to suspect anything.

2- No, We hung out, hiked, went to dinner, events, whitewater rafted, and paddle boarded. There really weren't many instances where I would be in a situation to even make her jealous.

3- Very discreetly.

4- YES and YES. Hugely jealous. She would stay over, I would get ready for work, and she would ask me how many women will hit on me today, how many usually approach me, etc. When we started hanging out, I was with someone else but not exclusively. I told this girl that. She was INSISTENT on knowing "what the other girl has that I don't." This was brought up by her a number of times. I would just usually laugh and say, drop it. She was the most jealous woman I think I've ever dated--easily.

5- It rocked. This girl has a porn star body (all natural) and will do it all. Really fun, whimsical personality too until she goes full-on psycho and loses it like she did at the dog park. Another flag for me for a LTR, anyway. I think she's the kind of girl you f*ck but not marry.

Also strongly suspected illicit drug use (coke). I can go into detail if anyone's interested. I've known people who have used before and she had almost all their habits. I calmly asked her once if she uses, as if it's no big deal, but she calmly denied.

Does not sound like you gave her any reason to behave the way she did..

To me this girl sounds very insecure and has no emotional control, agressive to boot..

An LTR with her will make your life a living nightmare..

The only thing you got going here is the crazy sex, other than that I would avoid her like the plague..

In fact leave the sex alone.. just run!
 

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Does not sound like you gave her any reason to behave the way she did..
What woman needs a reason to behave a certain way?

Why do some men here pretend women are predictable with even moods and should remain that way forever if they are "in love"? Women are f*cking crazy. Just ask them.

They start out doing crazy sh!t with us (cheating on someone else) and then they do crazy sh!t with someone else (cheating on us if we were dumb enough to commit) and hurting us (if we were dumb enough not to have a backup). They're like sheets of tissue paper. You pull one out, wipe your ass, flush it, and another one is always there.
 

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Unfortunately sometimes it takes a while before you REALLY see how your significant other communicates and solves relationship issues with you.
An important question is - do they solve issues in a way that builds or destroys the relationship.
Then keep in mind that people don't change. This is who she is. If, in her attempt to some issues, she destroys the relationship, this is who she is and how it will be moving forward.
Forget about BPD, etc. Is this behavior something you want to deal with in an ongoing manner?
What are your standards when it comes to problem solving in relationships? What type of communication are you looking for? Does this relationship and female meet those standards?
 

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What woman needs a reason to behave a certain way?

Why do some men here pretend women are predictable with even moods and should remain that way forever if they are "in love"? Women are f*cking crazy. Just ask them.

They start out doing crazy sh!t with us (cheating on someone else) and then they do crazy sh!t with someone else (cheating on us if we were dumb enough to commit) and hurting us (if we were dumb enough not to have a backup). They're like sheets of tissue paper. You pull one out, wipe your ass, flush it, and another one is always there.
I think your last breakup has greatly deluded you. Take it easy, fella. Take some time off, relax. Women are as important as you let them be in your life.
 

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I think your last breakup has greatly deluded you. Take it easy, fella. Take some time off, relax. Women are as important as you let them be in your life.
I'm deluded for not whining about her actual BPD? As you coddle men whining about theoretical BPD?

By women are crazy I was quoting my last girlfriend 6 months ago (she is bi) and my date last night. I ended my last relationship 4 weeks ago and never texted her again.
 

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I get the idea of always be flirting with women. And having FUN with girls or plates. But i have to wonder where that statement comes from. Atleast 1 to not have to the alone me??

Your ability to love somone is directly tied to your ability to be alone.
And your ability to maintain attraction is directly tied to how much other girls want you.
 

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And they will want you with a secret empty pit in your stomach that a guy doesnt want to occupy? Here we are back to statement A.
They will discover it eventually no matter how many girls want you. Once she discovers the facade its over. Loss of attraction.
Talking high value woman here.
Go ahead and put all your eggs in one basket then. I won't do that.
 

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Forget about BPD, etc. Is this behavior something you want to deal with in an ongoing manner?
What are your standards when it comes to problem solving in relationships? What type of communication are you looking for? Does this relationship and female meet those standards?
Sometimes when you're in the relationship it's hard to see the "forest through the trees." I think we've all been there. And because of the way we're wired as men, it's hard to let the uber-hot, sexy, fun ones go, especially when they're really into you which this girl really was. Her interest level was way into the 90's based on her behavior prior to the blowout. Plus as mentioned, she really pushed for a committed relationship while I backed off the idea for a while.

Given her physical appearance and overall sex appeal, I honestly don't think she'd ever run into a guy like me who called her out 100% on her bad behavior and let her walk. When I did it, she literally stood there with her mouth open in dismay. I think most guys she's been with have either pleaded for her to stay, put up with her BS, or caved in after a few days of NC. Not me.

The reason I like the SS site, despite some of pseudo-alphas here running off at the mouth (or keyboard), is that it gives one perspective and validation. Same reason NFL head coaches have coordinators and assistant coaches and the president has a cabinet.

I'm continuing NC and moving on. I do predict with confidence she'll resurface and will let you know when she does.

Thanks all.
 

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Well im not going to call you any names other then Neil. Whether you have ears to hear that is not mine to say. You eventually have to relinquish everything Neil..even the girls. All of em.
Your posting a video about somthing i already know. Being responsible is not blame. Your blaming yourself is what leads to you not loving yourself hence the need to always have atleast 1. Are you afraid of none?
It can suck but you get through that stuff.
Try to have some joy while your hear bud.
If "wimp" is a name, I rest my case.
 
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