Maybe you have a baby face? You look round instead of chiseled.

[ImprovingJuan]

yup this was told to me today. i guess i understand now what my chances are with women.

I was told here on sosuave that my jaws have absolutely no angle at all, basically i'm just a potato face, this was what she was trying to tell. I lack the masculine traits that makes a man masculine.

It's game over for me. I had a jaw surgery but the results are what you've seen. i agree that i'm overweight but no amount of fat loss is going to make my face look more manly and have those sharp jaw angles some you guys have.

My options are either continue living like this, a life without meaning, no sex, being cast out and being repulsive and shunned by women and being treated like garbage or end it right here.

No amount of psychological help will help me cope with the fact that no woman is attracted to me because i don't manly enough.

I'm sorry to say but this site is great and all but its only for good looking guys. Guys like me dont even stand a chance, i never had because nature wasn't generous with me.

You can come at me with your witty remarks and name calling but you know i'm a lost case because i'm ugly.

 

[ImprovingJuan]

I also cant grow a decent beard to camouflage because mine is all white and has lots of patches.

i dont really know what to do, its natural selection i guess. genetic garbage like me only deserves to go to waste.

 

[ImprovingJuan]

Man you have some serious Sekt esteem issues. You should See a psychologist. I saw your pic in the other thread and you look decent. I see guys like you with hot chicks.

The problem why women may dislike you is because of you self esteem issues.

You don't like yourself why should a women then like you. Self love is important. Start by saying good stuff to yourself everyday.

Don't define yourself by your looks.
Say "I am good"

Problem is they define us by our looks. But i appreciate your words. And yes i have issues, caused by being rejected over and over again. I'm seeing a psychologist in July. but that wont change anything.

 

[Thorninmyside]

Dude, you could have the jawline of ****ing Buzz Lightyear and you'd still be beating yourself up about something. You REALLY need to look at this inner struggle and get the right help.

 

[wifehunter]

One of the best effects of weight loss is a more chiseled face...I need to stop looking in the mirror so much. It's shocking. Smiles from young girls across the room.

Calorie/Carb deficits work, moreso than working out ever did.

 

[El Payaso]

If it wasn't your jaw, it would be your height. If not your height, then your weight. If not weight, then race. If not race then balding.

Accept your face for what it is. Unless you want to go down the plastic surgery route, there's no need to beat yourself over something you can't really change.

 

[bigneil]

My jaw line is weak also. I need to be 8% body fat or I have a double chin.

 

[Charmaine]

Problem is they define us by our looks.

That's because you are looking for women through online dating sites where women have nothing to go by other than your photos, and you are competing against the photos of hundreds of other men. If that doesn't work for you, you might have a better chance in real life as long as you have an attractive personality, which would mean you would need to work on your internal.

You can't convince a woman you are great if you don't even think you are great yourself.

 

[switch7]

I know plenty of guys who are below average in looks who get women.

You are screaming low self esteem and want a woman to make you feel better. Here's the tip, solve your low self esteem and you solve everything. Change your negative self talk, build up your self respect, and you will care much less about what you look like and much less about attracting women. And the less you care about women the more they care about you. Funny old world isnt it.

Forget about women for now, you need to lay solid foundations for your life to stand on. Make mastering your self your priority.

 

[ImprovingJuan]

One of the best effects of weight loss is a more chiseled face...I need to stop looking in the mirror so much. It's shocking. Smiles from young girls across the room.

Calorie/Carb deficits work, moreso than working out ever did.

what if i look like **** with low bodyfat? like a gaunt/emaciated look?

 

[wifehunter]

what if i look like **** with low bodyfat? like a gaunt/emaciated look?

Posture....own it.

 

[guru1000]

1) 2-3 vampire facials will tighten up your skin, augmenting your jawline;
2) 2-3 ccs of Radiesse (temporary) or fat injections (more permanent) on the Masseter muscle and chin angles will augment your jawline;
3) Fat loss will augment your jawline.

Everything is fixable, if necessary.

Your jawline is not strong, but is certainly average, as is. Everybody gets rejected. Every those DJs who get 9s and 10s regularly

It's time to grab your nuts and stop acting like a fvggot.

 

[skinnyguy]

One option is to go for less attractive women. Not saying it's the best option.

Guys like us go for hot women and it's a blessing and a curse. I went 4 months this year without having sex. But the girls I'm smashing in the next two weekends are super hot. My lay count is not at 100, and I'm glad. For me it's quality over quantity. Don't think that "getting laid" means you're successful.

Lots of guys told me when I was struggling to go for fat chicks and I couldn't do it. But if you can do it, it might help you get in the zone. When you're fvcking, girls notice you.

 

[bigneil]

I learned that when I'm doing my workouts, in particular curls and ab exercises, if I clench my jaw muscles that my jaw gets really sore the next day. I've found that it's helped define my jaw (one of my weak points). Women have taken notice. Girls who used to yawn seem to be at full attention all of a sudden.

 

[guru1000]

Aesthetically on the facial point system, even of greater relevance than having a defined jaw line is the distance between the masseter muscles. The greater the distance and the wider the jaw, the more this facial aesthetic is associated with masculinity. Outside of injections, Big Neil is correct in saying that the masseter muscles can get wider by flexing during heavy bench press and squats. Masseter wideness could add an easy point to the total facial aesthetics.

OP, you seemly fail to ever mention your physique. Quite odd that a person with body dysmorphia ignores this, as a proportional, lean, muscular physique could add up to 2-3 points to your total aesthetics. In other words, if you are a 6, a packaged physique could reasonably bring you to an 8-9. Yet you refuse to focalize your efforts toward the total package? Herein is the distinction between a mentally healthy person who wants to get better and a person with BDD.

 

[bigneil]

Aesthetically on the facial point system, even of greater relevance than having a defined jaw line is the distance between the masseter muscles.

Distance in which dimension? Is this the "high cheekbone" muscle?

 

[guru1000]

Distance in which dimension? Is this the "high cheekbone" muscle?

The width of the angle formed by the jawline as it goes from the chin to the vertical junction near the ears. Think of forming a triangle where the chin is the apex and the base is formed by drawing a line through the head from ear to ear. The larger the angle from the apex to the base the wider and more masculine the jaw appears.

One syringe of Radiesse per side could accomplish this--or--as you had mentioned focalizing hard flexes during heavy bench or squats will increase the width of the masseter muscles giving a greater angle at the apex. A simple increase of just a few millimeters on each side makes a significant aesthetic difference.