girls are fu**ed seriously....

[RichardTheFrog]

It's NOT YOUR FAULT. This is the market of women we are dealing with today. I continue to tell you guys this.

Women of today's market are Penny Stocks, not Blue Chip Stocks. Your focus is in getting in, fast, and getting to SEX within 1 - 3 meets/dates. If she doesn't fvck you within 1 - 3 meets/dates, CUT HER. Do not go into any routine about her "not wanting to rush things" or she being a "higher quality woman", NONE of that shyt exists and is only cartoonish shyt.

I'm sorry but the quality LTR woman doesn't exist anymore. I'm sorry to tell you that. I know it's hard, I'm still struggling with it myself.....but we are just going to have to try to get USED to this new market or we can sit around being depressed about it, drink ourselves to death, or put a gun to our heads and shoot ourselves. Suicide, depression, nor stress isn't going to change anything.

I'm sorry buddy.

How can you NOT be depressed about it?

The alternative being to spend my life trying to impress people I neither like nor respect.

 

[Tenacity]

Is it worth telling her how much I really liked her?

No Sir.

She sent me a text earlier which I haven't replied to saying, she hopes we can still be friends and she wants to call me after work? Not sure what I'm suppose to write back and if I should take her call?

Block her number and go to the next plate Sir.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I think people should stick to the topic of my thread and story rather then hijacking it with other bullsh1t!!

Couple of questions. Is it worth telling her how much I really liked her? She sent me a text earlier which I haven't replied to saying, she hopes we can still be friends and she wants to call me after work? Not sure what I'm suppose to write back and if I should take her call?

Tell her to **** herself in the ass.

 

[Tenacity]

How can you NOT be depressed about it?

The alternative being to spend my life trying to impress people I neither like nor respect.

I get depressed about it from time to time. When I get depressed about it, I just try to look at other aspects of my life that are going well and try to just move on. I do understand that there's a lot of guys in serious depression/committing suicide over many of the "market related forces" I talk about, in relation to not just women, but the job market, family structures, etc.

Just do the best you can man and remember........IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

 

[soulforge]

I think people should stick to the topic of my thread and story rather then hijacking it with other bullsh1t!!

Couple of questions. Is it worth telling her how much I really liked her? She sent me a text earlier which I haven't replied to saying, she hopes we can still be friends and she wants to call me after work? Not sure what I'm suppose to write back and if I should take her call?

NO NO NO NO... dude you didn't bang this chick, you are completely wasting your time here..

Everything she is trying to get you to do now, is only to benefit HERSELF and to eliminate guilt she maybe feeling..

This chick did not have sex with you.. soon enough once you have helped her rid of some of her guilt, she will be out there sucking big fat diks.. while you have been friend zoned..

Ignore, delete, forget about her... it's not like your going to miss the sex.

Find a chick you can actually go balls deep in!

 

[marmel75]

Was seeing a woman 10 yrs older then me, im 29 and shes 39 and has a couple of teenage kids. We met through work conferences and immediatley clicked. We were both instantly attracted to each other, shared loads in common and had an amazing connection (or so i thought). We were seeing each other for about 5 months, and i thought everything was going great. We were both looking to eventually be in relationships but she wanted to take it slow as she had been hurt by guys in the past and didnt want to rush in to anything so i guess we were never "official''. I wasnt in a rush to be in a relationship and was content being friends and going with the flow.

We were speaking on the phone earlier and she comes out and tells me that she prefers to be single and doesnt want a relationship anymore and enjoys her independence. She says she really likes me and thinks i deserve someone who can give me their all and that she cant give me that and doesnt see a future between us. I dont know if she's being legit about her reasons or shes just changed her mind about me, i have no idea? Its come as bit of a shock and i wont lie, im a bit cut up by it. I actually really liked her and as much as i hate to say it, i was starting to gain strong feelings for her. I really thought for once i may have actually found a winner...HA! Once again this all just proves why i shouldnt even bother with women. I guess shes another one to add to my already long list of girls who weren't "feeling it" for me. I dont think im ever meant to be in a relationship. Ive only had a couple of short term relationships in my life that went nowhere and everytime i think i may have found someone good,this sh1t happens. Totally over it. And to be honest its this kinda crap that makes you not want to bother going through the whole dating process and getting to know them.

The worst thing is, i have tickets to a party i was meant to be going with her to next weekend and now im having second thoughts about going. I only really got them so i could have "fun" with her but clearly that wont be happening now so i dont even know if i want to go. I'm thinking about ghosting her completely, she said she wants to still be friends but i dont know if its a good idea? I really dont know what to do and could use some good advice!! Please help!

Once again the OP leaves out the most important thing.

Did you fvck this woman or not?

 

[marmel75]

No I forgot to mention we never had sex. We fooled around and kissed/made out but never slept together....as I said she wanted to take things slow and said she didn't have a high sex drive like she once did.....I didn't want to come off as a pushy guy whose only after one thing. I genuinely did have feelings for her so I respected her decision to wait untill she was ready....bad move I know.

I've always found older women more attractive I don't know why. I like younger girls too but they are only good for one thing. But after this whole fiasco I'm determined to never bother with girls again. 11 years of dating and failing along with heartbreak just doesn't make the pay off worth it. Whenever you think you may have found a decent one, they go and sh1t on you like that.

Are you kidding me?? You went out with a chick for 5 months and never fvcked her?

Dude c'mon on...this wasn't a relationship to her, you were simply some dude to hang out and have fun with that she had no sexual attraction towards. She got bored of it or she met someone who is taking up your timeslot by d!cking her down...be real.

The I got hurt bullcrap...please...if you were someone she wanted to bang, your d!ck would have been in her mouth before she could have even uttered those words...39 year old women are horny as fvck...the only one she had low sex drive around was YOU!

Don't blame her because you allowed yourself to be strung along like a little puppy dog, you continued going out with her even though she wasn't giving you what YOU wanted(sex) and you completely allowed her to control things from a relationship standpoint...YOU did this to yourself because you have no or low standards...not her.

It gets so tiring reading these posts about how "women are fvcked up" when the OP's ENABLE all of this to happen. It would be like you complaining about someone being addicted to prescription pills when you are the one going out and buying them for them...then saying how fvcked up it is they are using them. Well no Sh!t!! What did you think they were going to do??

How he hell do guys like OP justify this bullcrap these women tell you in your mind?? Pathetic.

Yes, OP I'm giving you the business over this because someone needs to so you can realize how much you fvcked up and don't do it again. You still don't seem to understand this all happened because of YOU NOT HER.

 

[soulforge]

Are you kidding me?? You went out with a chick for 5 months and never fvcked her?

Dude c'mon on...this wasn't a relationship to her, you were simply some dude to hang out and have fun with that she had no sexual attraction towards.

The I got hurt bullcrap...please...if you were someone she wanted to bang, your d!ck would have been in her mouth before she could have even uttered those words...39 year old women are horny as fvck...the only one she had low sex drive around was YOU!

How he hell do guys like OP justify this bullcrap these women tell you in your mind?? Pathetic.

Op needs to drop this chick.. no chick in her right mind with high IL would go without secs for 5 months...

Op seriously needs to find a chick, he can smash into next week... this is just wasted time!

 

[AJ84]

I think people should stick to the topic of my thread and story rather then hijacking it with other bullsh1t!!

Couple of questions. Is it worth telling her how much I really liked her? She sent me a text earlier which I haven't replied to saying, she hopes we can still be friends and she wants to call me after work? Not sure what I'm suppose to write back and if I should take her call?

She hopes you can still be friends. Thats a kiss off so no don't text her and tell her how much you like her. Take the call sure but my advice for you is to meet other girls so you can create some emotional distance from her.

 

[evil_tomato]

We talked about sex a lot when we first started talking but she made it clear that she wasn't after a "hook up" and won't just sleep with anyone untill she has a connection with someone. I was to scared to push for it incase she thought I was only it for sex...

 

[Billtx49]

she made it clear that she wasn't after a "hook up" and won't just sleep with anyone untill she has a connection with someone.

And you still haven't banged her after 5 months. Your question answered. Want to waste more of your time with her 'hoping' for a connection ? The only connection happening here is coming from inside your head, not from her.
You're being played. She gets free dates and male attention, and you get no sex. Sound like a fair deal to you ?

 

[AJ84]

On second thought don't take that call. I foresee you saying something you will regret later, about how much you liked her. It's a crappy feeling I know. But moving on and creating distance by getting back out there and meeting new girls is your best medicine.

 

[marmel75]

It's NOT YOUR FAULT. This is the market of women we are dealing with today. I continue to tell you guys this.

Women of today's market are Penny Stocks, not Blue Chip Stocks. Your focus is in getting in, fast, and getting to SEX within 1 - 3 meets/dates. If she doesn't fvck you within 1 - 3 meets/dates, CUT HER. Do not go into any routine about her "not wanting to rush things" or she being a "higher quality woman", NONE of that shyt exists and is only cartoonish shyt.

I'm sorry but the quality LTR woman doesn't exist anymore. I'm sorry to tell you that. I know it's hard, I'm still struggling with it myself.....but we are just going to have to try to get USED to this new market or we can sit around being depressed about it, drink ourselves to death, or put a gun to our heads and shoot ourselves. Suicide, depression, nor stress isn't going to change anything.

I'm sorry buddy.

Bullish!t, it's ALL his fault because he allowed it to continue to this point. This b1tch should have been out of the picture after date 3...

But that's what happens when you have no options.

 

[marmel75]

We talked about sex a lot when we first started talking but she made it clear that she wasn't after a "hook up" and won't just sleep with anyone untill she has a connection with someone. I was to scared to push for it incase she thought I was only it for sex...

Scared...one of the ways to ensure you won't get laid. Anytime a woman becomes so important to you that you are afraid to go for what you want because you think it will scare her off you already lost. You have to be willing to risk a loss to get a win. Playing it safe just ensures you'll lose in the end 3-2 instead of potentially winning or getting blown out. But getting blown out is much better since you didn't date 5 months of time in her.

You should have said I'm not either and then continued trying to push for sex every date until it happened or she wouldn't see you again.

You wasted 5 months of your life, and for what??

 

[AJ84]

We talked about sex a lot when we first started talking but she made it clear that she wasn't after a "hook up" and won't just sleep with anyone untill she has a connection with someone. I was to scared to push for it incase she thought I was only it for sex...

Five months is a very very long time to feel a connection to consider sex, which didn't end up happening anyway. I can tell you, as a female, if she wanted to take it further with you, she would of made a move months ago. Go with your gut feeling, which I hope is sending the vibe that she's not that into you and you should move on. Don't waste time going over it. Don't give yourself hope. Give yourself time, meet other girls and find someone with whom you can have a mutual connection.

 

[marmel75]

Five months is a very very long time to feel a connection to consider sex, which didn't end up happening anyway. I can tell you, as a female, if she wanted to take it further with you, she would of made a move months ago. Go with your gut feeling, which I hope is sending the vibe that she's not that into you and you should move on. Don't waste time going over it. Don't give yourself hope. Give yourself time, meet other girls and find someone with whom you can have a mutual connection.

Men don't need connections...that's sh!t for women.

 

[AJ84]

Men don't need connections...that's sh!t for women.

Sure thing guy.

 

[Tenacity]

Bullish!t, it's ALL his fault because he allowed it to continue to this point. This b1tch should have been out of the picture after date 3...

But that's what happens when you have no options.

Let's discuss this further.

When I say it's NOT HIS FAULT, I'm referring to the behavior of the woman in question. You see marmel, a woman of quality, integrity, and morality, would NOT string a guy along like this. If she's not feeling him, she already would know that within 1 - 3 times of hanging out with him. SHE would tell him she's not interested. Instead, like most women, she plays games. That's NOT HIS FAULT that this woman lacks integrity, morality, and quality.

Now, there were a couple of things he could have done more efficiently in regards to dealing with this woman who lacks integrity, morality, and quality:

- He could have cut her off sooner if she wasn't going to put out after 1 - 3 dates
- He could have not fallen for the pseudo "I'm a quality woman, thus I don't have sex" routine
- He could have withheld his feelings for this woman and not invested in a woman 10 years older than him

But NONE of these things negate the facts that this woman lacks integrity, mortality, and quality based on how she goes about handling men. She probably is also a serial dating chick who FLAKES a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if she's on or pops up on an Online Dating website. IT'S NOT HIS FAULT that the personal character/personality/attitude of this woman is fvcked up.

 

[Tenacity]

You guys ever hear the expression, "It takes 2 to tango"?

We don't operate in a vacuum. In order for a QUALITY relationship to be formed, you need two people who are operating on quality, integrity, and morality. GOOD LUCK finding 1 woman in today's market that operates on said foundation. Women only care about WHAT you can do for them and IF you are going to do it......in the process of that, if she "feels like" fvcking you, then she would, if not, she won't.

All decent guys can do is become a Pseudo-Player today, and focus on getting A.SS as soon as possible and as cheaply (fewer dates) as possible. After you get her A.SS and decide to enter a relationship, just be prepared to learn how to handle her "bullshyt" that she brings to the table.

But with all of that being said, more Elliot Rogers are being formed on a daily basis, as a direct result of the shyt the OP went through in this thread. The bytch could have just LEFT him alone 5 months ago. NO, I'm not saying a guy is entitled to anything that belongs to a woman, but the common decency of these women are gone. These women do not give TWO SHYTS about us guys, they don't. Understand that shyt. So stop giving two shyts about them other than fvcking.

 

[soulforge]

We talked about sex a lot when we first started talking but she made it clear that she wasn't after a "hook up" and won't just sleep with anyone untill she has a connection with someone. I was to scared to push for it incase she thought I was only it for sex...

A connection.. 5 months in... dude if I aint banging a chick within 2-3 dates I consider her a complete waste of time..

If you aint banging the chick, she will never be yours..

A woman her age, claiming she wants to wait blah blah blah sounds like complete BS to me..

I get a feeling she may had been playing you..


Don't be too harsh on yourself man.. we all make mistakes in life.. most of us on this forum have fuked up in one way or another at some point.. we live and learn..

Next time you meet a chick, you need to be banging her.. do NOT get stringed along by her BS about waiting for the right time BS

No need to take her call... take her call for what? What do you gain from talking to her now.. NOTHING