The forums man...

[RichardTheFrog]

See right there again you act is if a-lot of them are truly happy and content with their situation and they're not. A-lot of it is surface level superficial happiness.

Well I doubt they're as miserable as me. And they wouldn't give a **** if I died. And I'm supposed to extent the olive branch of peace to see if precious little snowflake isn't truly happy? When she doesn't even care who I am in the first place, and even if she does open up to me, I would find out she's a manipulative ***** in two months?

 

[Reykhel]

That image was from August 15, 2014.

......You mean the op created a fraudulent thread. The need for validation must run deep.

@RichardTheFrog essentially nobody cares about you man. Now, as soon as you accept that, it should actually be
an enormous relief. All of those false expectations you had before that were weighing you down like a bag of bricks, you
can just put them down now. You have to remember that every person on this planet is motivated by........
their own self interest.

The key is to try and create WIN WIN situations in life.....where you benefit and she benefits.

What have you got to offer? Essentially, what one wants in life one often has to give it away first.......

It's the problem with most people......they sit in front of the fireplace and they say "give me fvcking fire and then I'll throw
a log on..."

.....unfortunately they'll be left waiting for fire for a a long time.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

......You mean the op created a fraudulent thread. The need for validation must run deep.

@RichardTheFrog essentially nobody cares about you man. Now, as soon as you accept that, it should actually be
an enormous relief. All of those false expectations you had before that were weighing you down like a bag of bricks, you
can just put them down now. You have to remember that every person on this planet is motivated by........
their own self interest.

The key is to try and create WIN WIN situations in life.....where you benefit and she benefits.

What have you got to offer? Essentially, what one wants in life one often has to give it away first.......

It's the problem with most people......they sit in front of the fireplace and they say "give me fvcking fire and then I'll throw
a log on..."

.....unfortunately they'll be left waiting for fire for a a long time.

Okay. I have money and I want blo w job$ and secks. That's gonna be my life?

What else do girls need? They seem to have all their needs met. They can work for themselves and don't even need money from someone else.

So now I have to up the ante and take them on exotic vacations?

I think the game is just impossible and it's because of the effects that feminism has ha on the world. Females are not supposed to be independent like this.

I would be full fledged MGTOW if I didn't want to still have sex.

Keep in mind that women do the EASY WORK of the world and **** it up half the time anyway.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Okay. I have money and I want blo w job$ and secks. That's gonna be my life?

What else do girls need? They seem to have all their needs met. They can work for themselves and don't even need money from someone else.

So now I have to up the ante and take them on exotic vacations?

I think the game is just impossible and it's because of the effects that feminism has ha on the world. Females are not supposed to be independent like this.

I would be full fledged MGTOW if I didn't want to still have sex.

Keep in mind that women do the EASY WORK of the world and **** it up half the time anyway.

Is all of this from what you've observed and have made conclusions about on your own or do you actually talk with and interact with women who have confirmed that this is how their lives are?

 

[Reykhel]

That's gonna be my life?

Don't be so silly. You were already given some tools in another thread on how you could improve your social skills.....you
were given the tools to think and work it out for your self....you chose not to do it.
Suggestion: Join Toastmasters. You'll meet people and hopefully improve your social skills (I await your excuses)
Suggestion: Join a martial art. Dedicate yourself to attend a couple of times a week. You will meet new people, mix more with men and hopefully improve your confidence and social skills.
Suggestion: Spend less time on so suave.....you will not improve your social skills on an internet forum

Create an interesting life....for yourself. Create an interesting fun single life up until the point that you have to ask yourself "damn where would I fit a woman into my life"

What else do girls need?

Fun and positive energy. Are you capable of bringing fun to the interaction when your out for a beer? Why not? How can you be a more fun person to be around.

So now I have to up the ante and take them on exotic vacations?

What you on about?
So if I go out to a bar tonight and talk to people and open multiple women. Have a few beers. Have some fun. Have a laugh. There's a really high possibility that I can pull. Do you believe it's the same for you in this situation? Why not? what can you work on?
Hint: men do this every weekend and it's not rocket science and it doesn't involve "exotic locations"

I think the game is just impossible

All the money in the world will not fix your inner game problems. The good news? You don't need all the money in the world to
fix them....

I would be full fledged MGTOW if I didn't want to still have sex.

If you go out and but a bottle of wine tonight.....you'll have a "temporary relationship" with it. Tomorrow it will be over, you will have
enjoyed the pleasure of the wine without getting too attached or sentimental. the next day there is no need to take it to the cinema...

View women like wine: Concentrate on the part that gives you pleasure and how to obtain it and stay detached from it.

All the rest is just white noise and nonsense. Why give it importance. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Is all of this from what you've observed and have made conclusions about on your own or do you actually talk with and interact with women who have confirmed that this is how their lives are?

I don't have the conversational skills to get to know them enough to know what is going on in their life. All I know is how they treat me. They treat me with total indifference, unless they want something from me (like a tip), then they act a little bit nicer, but not much nicer.

I don't get the feeling that they WANT to interact with me. If they did, they would probably make it a lot easier for me to do so. I feel like I am so far off in left field when I'm trying to initiate them in pointless little small talk that they don't even care about in the first place. They're probably just humoring me until they can go bang their boyfriend if they have one, once they leave work.

Do I really know them? No. But I've known of women in the past and it's not like they're all candy and roses when you get to them.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Don't be so silly. You were already given some tools in another thread on how you could improve your social skills.....you
were given the tools to think and work it out for your self....you chose not to do it.
Suggestion: Join Toastmasters. You'll meet people and hopefully improve your social skills (I await your excuses)
Suggestion: Join a martial art. Dedicate yourself to attend a couple of times a week. You will meet new people, mix more with men and hopefully improve your confidence and social skills.
Suggestion: Spend less time on so suave.....you will not improve your social skills on an internet forum

Create an interesting life....for yourself. Create an interesting fun single life up until the point that you have to ask yourself "damn where would I fit a woman into my life"

Fun and positive energy. Are you capable of bringing fun to the interaction when your out for a beer? Why not? How can you be a more fun person to be around.


What you on about?
So if I go out to a bar tonight and talk to people and open multiple women. Have a few beers. Have some fun. Have a laugh. There's a really high possibility that I can pull. Do you believe it's the same for you in this situation? Why not? what can you work on?
Hint: men do this every weekend and it's not rocket science and it doesn't involve "exotic locations"


All the money in the world will not fix your inner game problems. The good news? You don't need all the money in the world to
fix them....


If you go out and but a bottle of wine tonight.....you'll have a "temporary relationship" with it. Tomorrow it will be over, you will have
enjoyed the pleasure of the wine without getting too attached or sentimental. the next day there is no need to take it to the cinema...

View women like wine: Concentrate on the part that gives you pleasure and how to obtain it and stay detached from it.

All the rest is just white noise and nonsense. Why give it importance. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

No, I can't add any positive vibes to a group of people. In fact, I don't ever engage in groups of people. But the vibes would be anything but positive. I am very angry. I have been kicked out of bars for doing nothing more than giving off bad vibes, but that hasn't happened in a while.

What were the social skills I was given in another thread? To Google how to start a conversation? I did. It told me to talk about the weather and some other dumb ****.

The fact that other guys can do out and socialize and bring a girl home easily is at least a ray of hope for me. If they can do it, why can't I? Well, the fact that I don't talk to anyone, male or female, when I go out. That's one. I don't even know how to start a conversation and I know talking about the weather isn't it. I have gone out over 1000 times over the past 3 years and haven't brought a girl home once. In fact, I don't think I've even gotten any phone numbers. I am starting to not even remember or care about girls names when they tell them to me. Yet at the same time, part of me wants to start having sex with girls who aren't prostitutes. But I think what this would look like if it ever happened is that I would be included is some girls "game" of a rotation of 10 guys and I'm just not about that. I've been through too much and am worth too much to be included is some girls GAME.

I know that I am worth a lot. But I also know that society doesn't care because real men are not valued. It's this feminist bull**** everywhere you go. I am speaking sense here.

I don't think I have the capability of enjoying having a ONS with a girl and that's it. I just don't really care that much about them. It's not worth it to me, I could just pay a prostitute and it would be a whole lot easier. I had a ONS off Tinder once and she felt like I didn't even want her there. I didn't even talk to her, just ****ed her, then she left. She texted a few weeks later wanting to **** again and I told her I was busy. I could have continued to **** her, but I didn't.

 

[SeymourCake]

How can you tell that?

By reading the filename.

 

[btownbuck2012]

By reading the filename.

Lol...um ok, OP can you explain what's going on...?

 

[switch7]

Well, the fact that I don't talk to anyone, male or female, when I go out.

You say you can't strike up a conversation with even a guy in a bar.. Give us an example so we can see where this is going wrong.. you're stood at the bar having a drink and another guy is waiting for his drink to be served. What do you say to strike up a conversation?

I seriously think you should get therapy and forget women for now. There is something at the core that is wrong and you are trying to tackle the peripheral problems instead of tackling the underlying issue. You will never get anywhere doing this.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You say you can't strike up a conversation with even a guy in a bar.. Give us an example so we can see where this is going wrong.. you're stood at the bar having a drink and another guy is waiting for his drink to be served. What do you say to strike up a conversation?

I seriously think you should get therapy and forget women for now. There is something at the core that is wrong and you are trying to tackle the peripheral problems instead of tackling the underlying issue. You will never get anywhere doing this.

Why would I want to talk to another guy at a bar?

 

[switch7]

Why would I want to talk to another guy at a bar?

To practice your social skills. If you can't hold a conversation with a random guy, you are sure as hell are not going to be able to hold one with a pretty girl.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

To practice your social skills. If you can't hold a conversation with a random guy, you are sure as hell are not going to be able to hold one with a pretty girl.

Okay well recently I was out and a guy started talking to me about basketball and we talked about that. It's pretty simple.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Sometimes these forums and social media can be a crutch. Occasionally ditch the forums and social media and live life. Don't plug in one time for one-three months. Dive into your life...

 

[ThisNThat]

These posts make me depressed as hell.

I can't even have a conversation with someone, and this is the kind of fun other people are having?

Don't worry, it's the Internet, chances are if they have to brag about who they banged online, then it didn't happen at all.

Sometimes these forums and social media can be a crutch. Occasionally ditch the forums and social media and live life. Don't plug in one time for one-three months. Dive into your life.

Yeah, thinking about taking a break from these forums...case-in-point, too much chest bumping and bragging about their next future bed pole notch is (supposedly).

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Don't worry, it's the Internet, chances are if they have to brag about who they banged online, then it didn't happen at all.


Yeah, thinking about taking a break from these forums...case-in-point, too much chest bumping and bragging about their next future bed pole notch is (supposedly).

I'm not about to call them outright liars. I mean, I had a pretty hot gf from February until a couple weeks ago.

For now, I'm content paying sugar babies one by one.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Don't worry, it's the Internet, chances are if they have to brag about who they banged online, then it didn't happen at all.


Yeah, thinking about taking a break from these forums...case-in-point, too much chest bumping and bragging about their next future bed pole notch is (supposedly).

Were either complaining about it or talking about it too much when we could be doing and thinking something else.

 

[ThisNThat]

Were either complaining about it or talking about it too much when we could be doing and thinking something else.

Yeah, it's a sickness....lol.

 

[Reykhel]

Lol...um ok, OP can you explain what's going on...?

I think the meaning is in the message, don't you?

Why would I want to talk to another guy at a bar?

It's a real pity that you want to stay stuck.

I understand though, you find comfort there. It's really uncomfortable to push out of your comfort zone......

the choice is there for us all: be uncomfortable now and reap the benefits of real comfort later.....
or be comfortable now and wait for a very uncomfortable existence later in life...

 

[SuckItUp]

Richard,

The first thing is not to ascribe so much value to sex and certainly not to give women the power to affect your mood.

Part of becoming good with women is understanding that they are different than men and they ascribe to different set of mating values.

The next part is to understand that you can't change women so there is no reason to get upset. Seeing that you can't change how tall you are, do you get mad at your height or lack thereof? Then why get upset about things you cannot change.

All you can control is the image you present to the world.

Women aren't mythical sex machines. They are people just like you and I. They want love just as anyone else and they make poor decisions like anyone else.

Again, you can't control their behavior you can only choose if you want to be around that behavior.