Is this an example of Alpha-Male behavior? (Picture)

[shesabranchswinger]

You mean use a gun?

Your hand to hand **** ain't nothing.

That's why I said hand to hand. You think it stops at hand to hand that's just for starters. Don't worry I have 762,556,454,45 reasons to keep a chump in line. And a few tanto's if he prefers close quarters contact. And the beauty of my state is shall issue CCW

 

[dustmuffin]

If an Alpha man saw you do that, you would need to park in the disabled bay permanently.

Naw, a white knight might try to cause some trouble. I would look at it and move along. Its not my problem. The manager of the store should call a tow truck and have it hauled off or the police. It's not my responsibility to go around trying to right all of the wrongs in the world.

Was it two guys in seattle that were killed white knighting because of a couple of muslim women? Ya that worked out really well for them.

 

[shesabranchswinger]

Naw, a white knight might try to cause some trouble. I would look at it and move along. Its not my problem. The manager of the store should call a tow truck and have it hauled off or the police. It's not my responsibility to go around trying to right all of the wrongs in the world.

Was it two guys in seattle that were killed white knighting because of a couple of muslim women? Ya that worked out really well for them.

No that was Oregon, yeah I agree with how the system is set up now you can't be going Charles Bronson on people cause you may be doing the rite thing but if your stuck in court or behind bars I don't see how that helps

 

[Plums]

Well keep hoping @Plums because there pink leather rhinestone gloves

Sounds even better.

 

[Plums]

I agree with that to some degree but in my experience respect was not given it was earned. People are going to disagree and frown upon you and I throughout our life's. But if you make a plan set a course stick to the plan follow the blueprint and execute step by step then you will reach your goals and in turn respect comes naturally.

I agree if you mean that self respect is the most important attribute a person can have. If you respect yourself. People will often respect you for it naturally.

 

[Plums]

I've seen some pretty alpha morons with tattoos across their forehead. Mike Tyson comes to mind.

Everyone of those guys in my class even the white belts would own 95 percent of the population worldwide in a hand to hand situation. That's not bragging it's just the facts. 90% of people do not take self defense and would not know what to do in a life of death situation. That doesn't make us better then them just prepared for the situation. Are there morons mixed in yes just like all walks of life their are morons and hacks in every field of life. Just pray your next doctor is not a hack because their out there and it's on you to choose caveot emptor buyers beware.

All doctors are hacks as far as I am concerned. I just think we have differing opinions on what makes an alpha male. For me the alpha is the leader. With humans this is about being the one who has the best ideas and strategy for survival. He may be surrounded by stronger fitter men, in fact he probably would be. But there is no point in being the strongest and fittest man, if you can't work out how to trap and kill the buffalo (or whatever). For that you need an alpha who can position the men and give the orders and who has the charisma to get the men to follow his lead.
Men should not strive to be the alpha, because this is an impossible goal if you just haven't got it. They should just be the best they can be and be valued for it. Men are not less valued because they are not the leader.

 

[ThisNThat]

That is actually the reply I would expect from an alpha man. All I am really saying is that a person cannot pretend to be something he is not. Also NOT being an alpha does not at all mean that a man isn't a real man or doesn't have unique talents and skills that will benefit the group. Some of the bravest and best men are not alpha but strong enough to realise that following an alpha will lead to survival of the unit. Its not about superior or inferior. Far from it.

Exactly, although I don't believe in labels in this case, it seems there's a consensus that "being alpha" is the way to go, when you're not. That you'll get better results or something, but me..I'm not wired to be alpha, so it's really a matter of who you're compatible with. I've known women to be attracted to beta men for their beta qualities is what I'm saying.

 

[ThisNThat]

Oh hey, found another example of an Alpha...guy on the bluetooth, talking loudly and honking at people to move their a**.

 

[Reykhel]

Yeah I guess our costumes don't make us Alpha enough

Within your gym and within this group of men, there will still he a hierarchy. This little group can be representative of a tribe and within
that tribe some are more dominant, than others. That's the way it is.

Just because everyone of you can probably defend themselves, it doesn't automatically make you alpha dogs. Although it's nice to believe. I suggest you pay close attention to the dynamics of your tribe and observe body language and sub communications. You can be sure there is a dominant and submissive energy at play within the group. If the group has a lot of mutual respect, which I imagine you do have a lot of mutual respect for each other, the sub communication dance will possibly be very subtle. Nevertheless it will be there....

An example of this can be when you greet each other and shake hands before training. Let's say, if there is one person who needs to be shown his status within the group, you go in and you walk up to shake hands, but you stop a couple of yards in front of him.....and extend your hand......now in order to shake your hand, he needs to come to you.......you've made a dominant gesture. It's a simple example, but there are loads of examples that pertain to the actual training itself.........when a "beta" (not a fan of the terms) gets above his station (for example he's fvcking up a technique and he's not humble enough to see it, nor is he humble enough to see you're more experienced/better skilled).......he needs to be shown. You don't be a douche. You just lead him firmly and running through his paces hard, correcting his technique like a strict teacher. He needed to be shown. Afterwards, what happens? He's all over you like a lapdog. He actually appreciates being put in his place. It's just like with women. They're all over the shop at times. Some of them need a firm hand. You are the fvcking island and they are the waves. They need to know that you are Master. Later they may kiss your feet.

 

[Plums]

Exactly, although I don't believe in labels in this case, it seems there's a consensus that "being alpha" is the way to go, when you're not. That you'll get better results or something, but me..I'm not wired to be alpha, so it's really a matter of who you're compatible with. I've known women to be attracted to beta men for their beta qualities is what I'm saying.

Yes I don't believe in labels either. We are complicated as individuals and it is a shame that people feel they need to blow another's light out to make their own shine brighter because it serves no helpful purpose and is not useful to the group. In a group it is the followers who have the power, because without them. The leader leads no one.

 

[Plums]

Within your gym and within this group of men, there will still he a hierarchy. This little group can be representative of a tribe and within
that tribe some are more dominant, than others. That's the way it is.

Just because everyone of you can probably defend themselves, it doesn't automatically make you alpha dogs. Although it's nice to believe. I suggest you pay close attention to the dynamics of your tribe and observe body language and sub communications. You can be sure there is a dominant and submissive energy at play within the group. If the group has a lot of mutual respect, which I imagine you do have a lot of mutual respect for each other, the sub communication dance will possibly be very subtle. Nevertheless it will be there....

An example of this can be when you greet each other and shake hands before training. Let's say, if there is one person who needs to be shown his status within the group, you go in and you walk up to shake hands, but you stop a couple of yards in front of him.....and extend your hand......now in order to shake your hand, he needs to come to you.......you've made a dominant gesture. It's a simple example, but there are loads of examples that pertain to the actual training itself.........when a "beta" (not a fan of the terms) gets above his station (for example he's fvcking up a technique and he's not humble enough to see it, nor is he humble enough to see you're more experienced/better skilled).......he needs to be shown. You don't be a douche. You just lead him firmly and running through his paces hard, correcting his technique like a strict teacher. He needed to be shown. Afterwards, what happens? He's all over you like a lapdog. He actually appreciates being put in his place. It's just like with women. They're all over the shop at times. Some of them need a firm hand. You are the fvcking island and they are the waves. They need to know that you are Master. Later they may kiss your feet.

Strong men don't need other men or women to be subservient. Weak men need that. Strong people surround themselves with the strongest and weak men surround themselves with the weakest.

 

[Reykhel]

Strong men don't need other men or women to be subservient. Weak men need that. Strong people surround themselves with the strongest and weak men surround themselves with the weakest.

Hush now woman, a man is speaking.

An intelligent woman knows when to keep her nose out of matters that she knows nothing about.

Humble yourself. You clearly know nothing but hackneyed feminist clichés.

If Reykhel wanted some dumb ****'s opinion he would go over to Loveshack.com

Learn to behave. You're speaking from emotion, not experience.

 

[shesabranchswinger]

All doctors are hacks as far as I am concerned. I just think we have differing opinions on what makes an alpha male. For me the alpha is the leader. With humans this is about being the one who has the best ideas and strategy for survival. He may be surrounded by stronger fitter men, in fact he probably would be. But there is no point in being the strongest and fittest man, if you can't work out how to trap and kill the buffalo (or whatever). For that you need an alpha who can position the men and give the orders and who has the charisma to get the men to follow his lead.
Men should not strive to be the alpha, because this is an impossible goal if you just haven't got it. They should just be the best they can be and be valued for it. Men are not less valued because they are not the leader.

Their are hacks in every perspective field then there are the cream of the crop specialist in those same fields. You and I as joe smo off the street would not know but their piers would. I'm sure we do have different views of alpha as that is just one aspect of Alpha I was using for an example everyone would be able to understand. Sometimes leaders do not have the best ideas and strategys for mankinds survival or we would not be in situations our political leaders around the world have us in today if you consider those leaders Alpha that is. In the prehistoric days the leaders of the hunt were the strongest and fittest on the hunt as they were the only ones who could track for miles kill the big game buffalo and carry it back to camp for the women, children and cucks. I don't think there is such a thing as an Alpha man I think they are traits that are exhibited in situations. Any man that is honest with him self after self examination will come to the conclusion that he has exhibited traits from Alpha to omega at some point in his day to day life. Unfortunately men are unvalued maybe not to their face but through the scope of life. Example the guy who cleans out bathrooms on a construction site, garbage collectors, teachers. Without them this world would literally be ignorant and full of shoot in the streets but when is the last time you ever thanked one of them little loan even thought about them at all.

 

[Reykhel]

Everyone of those guys in my class even the white belts would own 95 percent of the population worldwide in a hand to hand situation. That's not bragging it's just the facts. 90% of people do not take self defense and would not know what to do in a life of death situation.

Such naive thinking. I'd be concerned. Is it the ego out of control or is it something else......

 

[shesabranchswinger]

Within your gym and within this group of men, there will still he a hierarchy. This little group can be representative of a tribe and within
that tribe some are more dominant, than others. That's the way it is.

Just because everyone of you can probably defend themselves, it doesn't automatically make you alpha dogs. Although it's nice to believe. I suggest you pay close attention to the dynamics of your tribe and observe body language and sub communications. You can be sure there is a dominant and submissive energy at play within the group. If the group has a lot of mutual respect, which I imagine you do have a lot of mutual respect for each other, the sub communication dance will possibly be very subtle. Nevertheless it will be there....

An example of this can be when you greet each other and shake hands before training. Let's say, if there is one person who needs to be shown his status within the group, you go in and you walk up to shake hands, but you stop a couple of yards in front of him.....and extend your hand......now in order to shake your hand, he needs to come to you.......you've made a dominant gesture. It's a simple example, but there are loads of examples that pertain to the actual training itself.........when a "beta" (not a fan of the terms) gets above his station (for example he's fvcking up a technique and he's not humble enough to see it, nor is he humble enough to see you're more experienced/better skilled).......he needs to be shown. You don't be a douche. You just lead him firmly and running through his paces hard, correcting his technique like a strict teacher. He needed to be shown. Afterwards, what happens? He's all over you like a lapdog. He actually appreciates being put in his place. It's just like with women. They're all over the shop at times. Some of them need a firm hand. You are the fvcking island and they are the waves. They need to know that you are Master. Later they may kiss your feet.

Sure there is a hierarchy and it goes back generations that's what humbles you. And every one of them after their First week has that much more of Alpha traits. They are that much more confident which over time transfers over to all aspects of life in my experience. What most people on the outside fail to understand about martial arts and Brazilian jui jitsu specially is that it gives you much more than a tough guy personality. Yeah some guys come in with that additude but over time they become better men not just fighters. And there are always the one in a thousand knuckle heads that wants to injures people but they are asked to leave or tapped out till they realize the errors of their ways.

But yes if the average joe tangles with even a white belt with a few months of training he's more than likely going to get his tail handed to him it's just a fact. It's like if I tried to build a cabinet without any carpentry skills I would not know where to start because I don't have the skills or tools too. Keep in mind I say average joe meaning someone with zero training of any kind like 90% of people

 

[shesabranchswinger]

Such naive thinking. I'd be concerned. Is it the ego out of control or is it something else......

It's something else it's called facts. I'd say your being naive care to elaborate?

 

[shesabranchswinger]

Look trust me on this find a good friend you know that can beat you up that has no ground skills. Get all padded up fight him till you loose no one will get hurt. Then go find a dojo that trains bjj and sign up for their unlimited classes for a month. Then go back and fight that same friend and tell me what happens better yet I'll save you the time and tell you what will happen your going to choke him to sleep with 3 different chokes you will armbar him 2 different ways you will leg lock him knee bar him sweep him control him and he will ask you the name of the dojo it's just a fact no ego at all

And if you keep going back to class for 6 or 7 years you will be in the top 1% of the 10% of people who can defend themselves and others on this planet because you will have become a black belt.

 

[Reykhel]

It's something
else it's called facts. I'd say your being naive care to elaborate?

Right. I can tell that we are going to have to end up agreeing to disagree. Probably writing this is pointless...but go on.

Now I think you've not only being naive but also quite stupid (not trying to offend you, I'm sure you're a good fella) but to turn around and
say that all of the white belts in your gym would hand .....wait what was it again....
shesabranchswinger said: ↑
Everyone of those guys in my class even the white belts would own 95 percent of the population worldwide in a hand to hand situation. That's not bragging it's just the facts. 90% of people do not take self defense and would not know what to do in a life of death situation.

Again....everyone in your gym.....would own 95% of the population WORLDWIDE in a hand to hand situation...

....and you are saying that's not opinion but FACT. Come on seriously kid.....that's arrogant, naive and stupid. If you really think that's
a fact (and not opinion) you're living in LA LA LAND.

Give me some examples of your experience in street fights. Give me some examples of the white belts's experience in street fights.

How old are you by the way? If you're 15 years of age, granted I can understand. But you are coming across as a very insulated fantasist with zero world experiences.

I've come across some absolute savages who never set foot in a dojo. Fvcking savages. I think you underestimate the average man on the street.

I reckon you're another one of those BJJ fantasist that thinks a street fight always goes to ground and can be won by neatly snapping on a leg bar like you did in the gym.....

Look trust me on this find a good friend you know that can beat you up that has no ground skills. Get all padded up fight him till you loose no one will get hurt. Then go find a dojo that trains bjj and sign up for their unlimited classes for a month. Then go back and fight that same friend and tell me what happens better yet I'll save you the time and tell you what will happen your going to choke him to sleep with 3 different chokes you will armbar him 2 different ways you will leg lock him knee bar him sweep him control him and he will ask you the name of the dojo it's just a fact no ego at all

You're so naive it's incredible. You are so black and white. It's like you're saying take two people and train one of them up for one month in BJJ and let the two of them fight, it's guaranteed that the one trained in BJJ for a month will win....

There are too many variables involved.......firstly he will not master all of those chokes you mentioned sufficiently enough to be able to apply them to a street fight situation after just one month..........

you're not taking into account each person's natural aggression for one, propensity for violence, balls, audacity, willingness, threshold for pain......dirtiness......experience.....weight.......reactions.....

 

[Reykhel]

Anyway, funny Joe Rogan video..........

 

[Plums]

Their are hacks in every perspective field then there are the cream of the crop specialist in those same fields. You and I as joe smo off the street would not know but their piers would. I'm sure we do have different views of alpha as that is just one aspect of Alpha I was using for an example everyone would be able to understand. Sometimes leaders do not have the best ideas and strategys for mankinds survival or we would not be in situations our political leaders around the world have us in today if you consider those leaders Alpha that is. In the prehistoric days the leaders of the hunt were the strongest and fittest on the hunt as they were the only ones who could track for miles kill the big game buffalo and carry it back to camp for the women, children and cucks. I don't think there is such a thing as an Alpha man I think they are traits that are exhibited in situations. Any man that is honest with him self after self examination will come to the conclusion that he has exhibited traits from Alpha to omega at some point in his day to day life. Unfortunately men are unvalued maybe not to their face but through the scope of life. Example the guy who cleans out bathrooms on a construction site, garbage collectors, teachers. Without them this world would literally be ignorant and full of shoot in the streets but when is the last time you ever thanked one of them little loan even thought about them at all.

True that people who are set up to be our leaders us are not actually leaders. They work for a system that strives to enslave us. People are conditioned to be brainwashed from childhood and main stream media pumps out the instructions and information that people believe without question.
So even if they see the truth presented to them smack in the face. It goes against their conditioning and they will say they don't feel the truth is truth at all. Its a sick situation that we are in. Very few people now are brave enough to actually say the truth out loud and stand by it. In fact I only know one leader who does this and stands like a lion alone being attacked on all sides by cowards and thieves.

Conditioning tells little girls its wrong to love their dolls and practise being mothers, it tells little girls to act like *****s. It tells little boys that unless they disrespect other people they are not real men. Grown up women are not allowed to aspire to be homemakers as this is now seen as being a failure. Men are pushed out of the family to the sidelines. It is seen as a weakness by women if a man is protective towards her and then because she feels vulnerable, she tries to be aggressive herself and things spiral out of control. Look at these girls who watch Hollywood films where women are portrayed as being able to fight better than men. The girls think that this is actually true. They go out to protest their misguided views, punch a man in the face and get punched right back and floored. That is more than just stupid, but shows you how deranged they are.

It's all out of balance because men and women together are strong. Divided and at odds with each other they are weak. The system, of course, can control weak people easily. Causes misery and even gets them to kill each other quite easily.
Men need to regain their true male identities and be decent. Women need to calm down and remember what really makes them happy.