Why most of us were unsuccesful with women while in our 20's

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Because they were busy dating men 5, 10, 15 years older.

I found it much easier to pull women in their 20's while in my 30's and now that I am 40, it still happens.

The only guys in their 20's that seem to do well are the exceptionally good-looking, the good-looking/confident athlete (which a lot of guys in their 20's lack) and the trust fund babies with money.
 
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I could have been extremely successful at age 21-22 as a hallucinogen dealer/user. I did it all through social circle and personality. I turned down hundreds of girls, then I got arrested and it was a different world when I got out.
 

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Exactly. The other side of the coin. When we had no jobs, our women dated older men. Now that we're older with jobs, you child molester perv!
 

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I could have been extremely successful at age 21-22 as a hallucinogen dealer/user. I did it all through social circle and personality. I turned down hundreds of girls, then I got arrested and it was a different world when I got out.
I had been arrested 4 times before I was 19. The police tried to (mildly) torture me in to ratting on my weed dealer but I didn't talk. They left me in a 60 degree cell all night clad in only my briefs (which I was doing a Yoga pose to use as a blanket by 4am). They then held a blanket outside the bars and said "tell us where you got the Indica". I didn't talk. You never know how a person will handle interrogation until they do. I'm glad I wasn't a rat. Most people are.
 
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I had been arrested 4 times before I was 19. The police tried to (mildly) torture me in to ratting on my weed dealer but I didn't talk. You never know how a person will handle interrogation until they do. I'm glad I wasn't a rat. Most people are.
When I was in solitary confinement, two guards stole some papers I was writing and wouldn't give them back so I yelled for them back. They came in the cell, one of them banged my head against the concrete wall about 10 times. I wrote up the incident and they did an internal investigation. They gave me a polygraph and I "failed" it even though I was telling the truth. They ended up saying that I made the whole thing up.
 

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When I was in solitary confinement, two guards stole some papers I was writing and wouldn't give them back so I yelled for them back. They came in the cell, one of them banged my head against the concrete wall about 10 times. I wrote up the incident and they did an internal investigation. They gave me a polygraph and I "failed" it even though I was telling the truth. They ended up saying that I made the whole thing up.
As I noted, my situation was mild. I hope you are ok. I had a friend conk my head against the pavement a few times and don't remember it. The doctors asked how my neck was broken 15 years later.
 
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As I noted, my situation was mild. I hope you are ok. I had a friend conk my head against the pavement a few times and don't remember it. The doctors asked how my neck was broken 15 years later.
I broke my neck in a car accident when I was 17. I still have paralysis in my left hand and parts of the arm, and sensory loss on my right side.

And that is just one of the many reasons that I deserve the 10's, and why it is so frustrating to deal with feminized SMV system where fat girls think they have the right to **** on people for fun.
 

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I broke my neck in a car accident when I was 17. I still have paralysis in my left hand and parts of the arm, and sensory loss on my right side.

And that is just one of the many reasons that I deserve the 10's, and why it is so frustrating to deal with feminized SMV system where fat girls think they have the right to **** on people for fun.
A chiropractor and Yoga can help tremendously. One exercise I do is to make an L shape with my butt against the wall and my legs straight up the wall, and then I hoist myself to a \ position and then slowly lower back down to a L position, rolling along my spine. The spine realigns naturally when you press down on the whole thing at once. Also try Curamed (Turmeric extract) for pain relief.
 
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This is a bunch of nonsense OP.

Most girls in their 20s go for guys in their 20s and a lot of guys in their 20s are fit and fun, the girls love that. I see it in NYC all the time, hipsters and big finance guys are the ones who get the models that are young although occasionally you might see a guy in his early 30s pull it off. The reality is that most hot girls in their 20s go for high value guys in their 20s or guys in their 20s who have found a certain niche like DJ (music), bartender at a nightclub, model, or something popular.

The whole hot girls in their 20s going for guys in their 30s is an exception to the norm.
 
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This is a bunch of nonsense OP.

Most girls in their 20s go for guys in their 20s and a lot of guys in their 20s are fit and fun, the girls love that. I see it in NYC all the time, hipsters and big finance guys are the ones who get the models that are young although occasionally you might see a guy in his early 30s pull it off. The reality is that most hot girls in their 20s go for high value guys in their 20s or guys in their 20s who have found a certain niche like DJ (music), bartender at a nightclub, model, or something popular.

The whole hot girls in their 20s going for guys in their 30s is an exception to the norm.
But isn't all that stuff like DJ's (music) and bartenders STUPID and pointless when you really think about it in the REAL WORLD????

Just another example of the stupidity of the whole thing?
 
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But isn't all that stuff like DJ's (music) and bartenders STUPID and pointless when you really think about it in the REAL WORLD????

Just another example of the stupidity of the whole thing?
Not at all, most of these guys come from rich families and some do it on the side of having a full time job (finance bros could not pull it off but accountants can).

For the outgoing extrovert, it is a lot of fun, helps you meet a lot of women, gives you undeniable social proof in nightlife, and you even meet powerful people along the way. Knew a bartender who was 25, getting laid like crazy, met a manager at a software company, now he works in tech making good money while bartending on the side, and he has 20s worth bragging about.

What IS stupid is staying in, whining on internet forums, and getting angry at the guys out there getting action.
 

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At 20, there's alot more maturity that needs to happen...typically speaking.

In rare cases, people can mature at younger ages because of life situations.
 
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Not at all, most of these guys come from rich families and some do it on the side of having a full time job (finance bros could not pull it off but accountants can).

For the outgoing extrovert, it is a lot of fun, helps you meet a lot of women, gives you undeniable social proof in nightlife, and you even meet powerful people along the way. Knew a bartender who was 25, getting laid like crazy, met a manager at a software company, now he works in tech making good money while bartending on the side, and he has 20s worth bragging about.

What IS stupid is staying in, whining on internet forums, and getting angry at the guys out there getting action.
Okay so...

Being rich = worth something

DJing down town is still just a fake bull**** of modern society.

I'm at a bar as I'm typing this.

What's ***** worth, by the way?
 
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Okay so...

Being rich = worth something

DJing down town is still just a fake bull**** of modern society.

I'm at a bar as I'm typing this.

What's ***** worth, by the way?
Fake? The game is fake you imbecile!

Deal with it and DJing for a guy that loves to do it is pretty smooth.
 

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This is a bunch of nonsense OP.

Most girls in their 20s go for guys in their 20s and a lot of guys in their 20s are fit and fun, the girls love that. I see it in NYC all the time, hipsters and big finance guys are the ones who get the models that are young although occasionally you might see a guy in his early 30s pull it off. The reality is that most hot girls in their 20s go for high value guys in their 20s or guys in their 20s who have found a certain niche like DJ (music), bartender at a nightclub, model, or something popular.

The whole hot girls in their 20s going for guys in their 30s is an exception to the norm.
Ha! You know the saying 20% of men, get 80% of the women? That's probably true for men in their 20s.

You seem to be talking about these rich spoiled brat trust fund babies you see getting the hot chicks in NYC or the young kid whose daddy is connected and got him that job at a hedge fund.

Most guys in their 20s, especially early to mid are going home every night beating off and not successful with women because they are broke and lack confidence due to inexperience.

I'm 41, and just banged a 28 year old the other night and I have women in their mid 20s checking me out at the gym.

Why wasn't this happening in my 20s? Oh yeah, I was broke and didn't really have a career.
 
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Ha! You know the saying 20% of men, get 80% of the women? That's probably true for men in their 20s.

You seem to be talking about these rich spoiled brat trust fund babies you see getting the hot chicks in NYC or the young kid whose daddy is connected and got him that job at a hedge fund.

Most guys in their 20s, especially early to mid are going home every night beating off and not successful with women because they are broke and lack confidence due to inexperience.

I'm 41, and just banged a 28 year old the other night and I have women in their mid 20s checking me out at the gym.

Why wasn't this happening in my 20s? Oh yeah, I was broke and didn't really have a career.
Even the broke guys in their 20s can get action if they do stuff like bartend at a nightclub or find a niche, quite a few can get by just on looks alone since girls in their 20s care a lot about that.
 

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Of course I forgot to mention, I am a youthful looking 41 who is in shape. I can pass for 34 no problem.

If older guys want to pull chicks 10,15 and even 20 years younger, they MUST look younger than their biological age and have an above average body (For your age).
 

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I was far from unsuccessful with woman in my 20's. But yea i am good-looking/confident athlete.
 
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