Isla Vista, Tempe, etc: Can "ethnic" guys do well in all American type of areas and crowds?

[Good Gao]

I have long heard that Tempe, AZ and Isla Vista, CA; generally just all American college towns full of your typical upper middle class white people, are great for white guys and especially black guys but not much of anyone else. One of my friends went to school at UCSB and he said that it was common to see white girls dating black guys and making out with them but rare to see them with Hispanics and Asians; he graduated from there a couple years ago.

Some of us remember the infamous Eliot Rodger situation where an ethnic guy wanted hot blondes, couldn't get them despite being rich and handsome, and as a result went crazy. It did open my eyes to how things are like in Isla Vista, was planning to head out there for a quick trip around that time but cancelled it because of what I heard.

My friends I have made from Tempe who went to Arizona St tell me the same exact thing, it is tough for anyone that looks "Mexican" or "not American" (not white or black) to get hot girls there.

Question I had was, can assimilated cool guys who happen to look racially exotic (Hispanic, Asian, etc.) pull hot girls in these sorts of areas?

I am in my late 20s and have thought about visiting Tempe for a while.

 

[Young OG]

I live in AZ (for 10 years) and go to bars in Tempe almost every weekend. If your a guy who isn't white or black, then you can forget about getting white girls. Around here, Asian guys only get Asian girls and Hispanic guys only get Hispanic girls.

 

[Good Gao]

I live in AZ (for 10 years) and go to bars in Tempe almost every weekend. If your a guy who isn't white or black, then you can forget about getting white girls. Around here, Asian guys only get Asian girls and Hispanic guys only get Hispanic girls.

Is it because of a lack of trying or what? I have heard similar things on here as well as other places about Tempe and AZ in general.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Is it because of a lack of trying or what? I have heard similar things on here as well as other places about Tempe and AZ in general.

We told you its regional! AZ was scouted to be a place you can't do that at. Also NYC. I knew a tall dark hip Indian guy who could pull out the bars in Dallas. Also Chicago. Some places that won't be happening and others it will. Also does your target HAVE to be blonde? That tells me your objectifying them and that does not work out well.

 

[Good Gao]

We told you its regional! AZ was scouted to be a place you can't do that at. Also NYC. I knew a tall dark hip Indian guy who could pull out the bars in Dallas. Also Chicago. Some places that won't be happening and others it will. Also does your target HAVE to be blonde? That tells me your objectifying them and that does not work out well.

It is just my type and if I have a type, I go get it or put myself in situations where I can go get it

The game is a business to me and I go for what I want and get it, I don't settle for anything else.

It does seem like Tempe is out though.

 

[Young OG]

Is it because of a lack of trying or what? I have heard similar things on here as well as other places about Tempe and AZ in general.

Nothing to do with lack trying. There is a huge Hispanic population here. Most of them are poor. White girls look down on them and see them as low value.

 

[Good Gao]

Nothing to do with lack trying. There is a huge Hispanic population here. Most of them are poor. White girls look down on them and see them as low value.

I understand, it is shocking to find that despite the high latino population it is rare to see one with a white girl, my friend who went to Arizona St says the same thing.

What about other minority groups like Asians and such? We are usually wealthy in the US from what I hear.

Do you think that good game along with lots of money and good looks can somewhat balance it out or are even higher value ethnic guys screwed in Tempe? I would love to get my Tempe puss, ideally blonde, just for the heck of it.

 

[Young OG]

I understand, it is shocking to find that despite the high latino population it is rare to see one with a white girl, my friend who went to Arizona St says the same thing.

What about other minority groups like Asians and such? We are usually wealthy in the US from what I hear.

Do you think that good game along with lots of money and good looks can somewhat balance it out or are even higher value ethnic guys screwed in Tempe? I would love to get my Tempe puss, ideally blonde, just for the heck of it.

I only see Asian guys with Asian girls.

Good game won't help. Once they see your race, it's over. Money and status could help, but it might not matter if they can't get over your race. I honestly can't even think of a time when I even saw a white girl with a Hispanic, Asian, or Indian guy in AZ.

 

[Good Gao]

I only see Asian guys with Asian girls.

Good game won't help. Once they see your race, it's over. Money and status could help, but it might not matter if they can't get over your race. I honestly can't even think of a time when I even saw a white girl with a Hispanic, Asian, or Indian guy in AZ.

Love the straight talk man, thanks for giving me the low down on AZ. I had a gut feeling that it was bad but didn't know things there were this bad, even saw a mod on here make posts lying about life there but you gave it straight.

It's good to know what I am up against, still plan on visiting Tempe and doing 100+ approaches there of my type as well as running money game there but I won't get my hopes up. Gut instinct tells me you are telling the truth so I am definitely going to stick out like a sore thumb when I am making out with a tall hot blonde in Tempe as an Asian guy lol.

 

[Masculinity]

I have long heard that Tempe, AZ and Isla Vista, CA; generally just all American college towns full of your typical upper middle class white people, are great for white guys and especially black guys but not much of anyone else. One of my friends went to school at UCSB and he said that it was common to see white girls dating black guys and making out with them but rare to see them with Hispanics and Asians; he graduated from there a couple years ago.

Some of us remember the infamous Eliot Rodger situation where an ethnic guy wanted hot blondes, couldn't get them despite being rich and handsome, and as a result went crazy. It did open my eyes to how things are like in Isla Vista, was planning to head out there for a quick trip around that time but cancelled it because of what I heard.

My friends I have made from Tempe who went to Arizona St tell me the same exact thing, it is tough for anyone that looks "Mexican" or "not American" (not white or black) to get hot girls there.

Question I had was, can assimilated cool guys who happen to look racially exotic (Hispanic, Asian, etc.) pull hot girls in these sorts of areas?

I am in my late 20s and have thought about visiting Tempe for a while.

As I've said before, American does not mean White. American is anyone who is a citizen of the United States regarlesss of your race. If we had a town composed of 100% Latinos born in the U.S., it would be 100% all American. The same idea would apply to all Black or all Asian towns.

The only "true" Americans are Native Americans. The rest of us are immigrants. In that sense, an all American town would be a an all-Native American town.

 

[Masculinity]

@Good Gao we are noticing all your post are the same sh!t about Asian guy dating white women, really does your life revolve around this notion only? How about going to AZ with an open mind, if you are able to talk to white women good, if not you move on, many guys here that have game, game any race.

I agree with your impression of OP.

I lived in Isla vista for half a year and had women of different races and nationalities outside of my own. OP seems to believe that somehow White women are superior to other women, which is simply untrue. His very own mindset may be creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

GG. Since your worried about it in AZ. Try inviting attractive female friends who are intimate with you from out of town. The image could help your AZ game.

 

[Young OG]

Love the straight talk man, thanks for giving me the low down on AZ. I had a gut feeling that it was bad but didn't know things there were this bad, even saw a mod on here make posts lying about life there but you gave it straight.

It's good to know what I am up against, still plan on visiting Tempe and doing 100+ approaches there of my type as well as running money game there but I won't get my hopes up. Gut instinct tells me you are telling the truth so I am definitely going to stick out like a sore thumb when I am making out with a tall hot blonde in Tempe as an Asian guy lol.

No problem.

You remind me of another guy on here who asked similar questions about AS. Both of you have white girls on a pedestal. I'm white and I'll tell you that American white girls aren't as great as you might think they are. I actually prefer Hispanic girls, but I have trouble getting them. They seem like they mainly like there own race or black guys. I actually had a black guy steal a Hispanic girl from me on the dance floor a couple weeks ago.

Hit me up when you come to AZ.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

LOL it is always funny to see guys get so worked up over ethnic men going for blonde women, it always results in a "but ethnic women are better so don't bother okay", "white girls aren't that great okay", or a "why you so obsessed with white women bro?". As a white guy opening up to going for ethnic women, I am one of the very few who doesn't care if a Hispanic or Asian guy goes for white girls.

Ethnic guys who are clean cut and assimilated can clean up in certain white college towns, they do well in Florida.

Recently visited friends at FSU and saw a buff Asian guy with a hot blonde, a few latinos with hot blondes, and even a couple of Indian guys with tall busty blondes that had pretty faces. Florida girls are hot and they are down for some ethnic guys as long as the guy is assimilated and cool, it helps a lot to be in good shape too.

I also have Asian and Indian friends in southern cities Nashville and Charleston that get hot white girls and I mean blondes in particular.

Madison, WS is especially good for ethnic guys that are white washed, the girls there fit the tall hot blonde mold and they are open to going for cool ethnic guys.

Agreed with others on this thread, Arizona is quite literally hell for anyone that isn't racially white or black. I went there a couple of times and was surprised to see a complete lack of hot blondes with latino guys.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

As I've said before, American does not mean White. American is anyone who is a citizen of the United States regarlesss of your race. If we had a town composed of 100% Latinos born in the U.S., it would be 100% all American. The same idea would apply to all Black or all Asian towns.

The only "true" Americans are Native Americans. The rest of us are immigrants. In that sense, an all American town would be a an all-Native American town.

Perception is that white and black men are "American" and all other races are "foreign", that is what the perception is and when it comes to game, women, and scoring; perception matters far more than reality.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Still GG, if you are insistent on "hot blondes" in your region you will help your image by inviting some of your out of town "hot blonde" friends who you are already intimate with and be seen and make out with them in the places you frequent. A lot of folks are suggestable through group think. Once they see you with a couple they will wonder what it is about you. Also dress and be in shape and appropriate for the venue. Longer term you need to be in a different area because some area's just are not conducive.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

One of the best things I did for myself back when I was out there, was taking fine female friends with me to different venues. It improved my pull in each of those places...

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

I don't get the hype about Arizona girls tbh, most I have met have not been that much better looking and the blondes from there were your typical bleached blondes with butter faces. Florida, Texas, and California produce way hotter women of those type anyways, Arizona St is overhyped as a school anyways, there is a reason they are making their MBA free because they need students. That school gets way too much hype for having hot girls in it, guess you have to make that state relevant somehow.

If so interested in hot blondes, I'd recommend going to Utah, ethnic guys can do well there from what I hear. One of my Indian friends went to Ogden and stayed there, dated a hot blonde nurse for a while before finally breaking up with her when he had to move back out east. He was far from the stereotypical Indian but that should be understood at this point.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I agree with your impression of OP.

I lived in Isla vista for half a year and had women of different races and nationalities outside of my own. OP seems to believe that somehow White women are superior to other women, which is simply untrue. His very own mindset may be creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

That mindset almost guarantees he's putting them on a pedestal over him. For the female he thinks is "hot" he has to have the same standards of behavior as one as he thinks is "not hot". Don't cut them no breaks. He will do better if he lets go of this "obsession" and just lives. Also to take our guidance for the GPS around there that the multiculture thing doesn't work well in that particular area.

 

[SmooveMooves]

I live in AZ (for 10 years) and go to bars in Tempe almost every weekend. If your a guy who isn't white or black, then you can forget about getting white girls. Around here, Asian guys only get Asian girls and Hispanic guys only get Hispanic girls.

This is my experience too. I live in the state of NY. The only way I've seen ethnic men overcome this is by being apart of a social circle of 'acceptable' high value men. By assocation, women are more willing to lower barriers but its still pretty tough.

I know this isn't what you want to hear but I'd say fūck it. Join a social circle of women the same ethnicity as you and date the cream of the crop. Why expend the extra effort & possible embarassment of over coming social barriers and stigma? An HB9 is an HB9.