Love triangle dilemma. What would you do?

[Urbanyst]

So after this weekend, things are really heating up with my two current plates. I can sense that they will both ask to be exclusive pretty soon. And they are both girlfriend material. I really don't want to drop one of them. I like them both a lot.

On Friday one girl asked me if I was dating other girls. I told her I was dating another girl when we first met. But I didn't tell her I was still dating that girl now. She also introduced me to some family members this weekend. I didn't really agree to it, she just invited them out while on our date because they "happened to be in the city that day" so I had no choice.

I don't want either of these girls to find out about the other one. But things are heating up, and soon I might have to choose one or lose both.

These are their profiles:

Girl #1

Age: 28
Face: 9
Body: 7.5
Personality: Chill and down for anything
Sex: Fantastic
Main Pro: We grew up in the same city and have a lot of common interest and musical taste
Main Con: Very close to age 30. Turning 29 this summer

Girl #2

Age: 25
Face: 7
Body: 9
Personality: Spicy
Sex: Mind blowing. And her body is breathtaking. Probably the best body I've been with. She looks like a model naked.
Main Pro: The sex. Its just so good.
Main Con: She is becoming clingy and needs a lot of attention. Didn't like the forced family intro either.

What do most of you guys do in this situation? This is the first time I've liked two plates equally. Usually I have a clear favorite and its easy to dump one of them.

 

[bigneil]

I'd go with Girl #2 based on those numbers alone.

 

[Urbanyst]

I'd go with Girl #2 based on those numbers alone.

I want both though. At this point would you say I have to choose one?

 

[bigneil]

I want both though. At this point would you say I have to choose one?

Not necessarily. Not until one insists. Good problem to have.

 

[kenpiffyjr]

Great problem to have. Been In the situation. Women always know there's another woman. May not know all details, but trust me...they know.

This is my advice: in some fashion somewhere in their twisted way of thinking, women understand the dynamics of sister wives...it's all about your frame, how you present it, and where their head is at as far as maturity and their options. Women would rather share a prize than have a loser to themselves. You ever seen men with children by multiple women who get along and the guy can hang out with either or whenever and the children spend the night with eachother? That Sh!t is sister wives just presented in a different package and women for whatever reason love it if they respect you enough. You can present it in a different package even without children...it just has to be covertly.

This is how I played it: You have to basically know that you have either of them at your mercy in bed. I mean your frame has to be dominant but charming. Do they swallow? Can you tell them to give you oral anytime when you're alone? If not, don't attempt.

If you honestly believe they would find eachother attractive enough (and I'm not talking about threesome)...but if they find eachother attractive enough to say "oh she's cute, I understand why you would f*kc her " (these are real comments made by females)....you could have both until one of them finds another guy. I allowed the one who was older and more mature to get a glimpse inside my interactions with the other girl. Framed it like "she's sweet...she's just a lil girl a lot of times...just needs a little guidance from me and I love dominating her." Ive only attempted to pull this off once in my life, but the fact that she knew this other girl was attractive and clingy with me, me telling her that I dominated this other girl got her wet and made her pupils dilate. The girl that you are telling this to will now - even more than ever - understand you "get" women. You'll see he twinkle in her eye but after I did that, I kind of had to pedestalize her above the other girl. Let her know that the younger one has to respect her and any signs...I would drop the other girl. I also had to basically put all my chips on the fact that I'm very thorough about my personal life and don't want to make her look stupid (That's ALL women care about is looking stupid. "Don't make me look stupid!" Is like the key pass to knowing you can get away with this). I keep the mysterious frame solid...no kiss and tell, do not get involved in any gossip talk with them. Act like you could care less.

Basically when I had that tied up, I introduced them one night downtown and had the liquor flowing. They actually were hugging and dancing and both giving me looks as I wandered the club. The older one was doing all the work - looking for validation...and I never told the younger one the plan. Cats talk about intimacy on here....this level of trust with the older one was her intimacy with me and she loved it. Frank and Claire Underwood frame.

I'm still involved in this. I cut the older ones grass and I had to change the younger ones tire one night when she left the nail salon. I do manly beta things to show them I appreciate them. Don't know when it will end though and when one will drop out. Don't really care.

 

[Urbanyst]

Great problem to have. Been In the situation. Women always know there's another woman. May not know all details, but trust me...they know.

This is my advice: in some fashion somewhere in their twisted way of thinking, women understand the dynamics of sister wives...it's all about your frame, how you present it, and where their head is at as far as maturity and their options. Women would rather share a prize than have a loser to themselves. You ever seen men with children by multiple women who get along and the guy can hang out with either or whenever and the children spend the night with eachother? That Sh!t is sister wives just presented in a different package and women for whatever reason love it if they respect you enough. You can present it in a different package even without children...it just has to be covertly.

This is how I played it: You have to basically know that you have either of them at your mercy in bed. I mean your frame has to be dominant but charming. Do they swallow? Can you tell them to give you oral anytime when you're alone? If not, don't attempt.

If you honestly believe they would find eachother attractive enough (and I'm not talking about threesome)...but if they find eachother attractive enough to say "oh she's cute, I understand why you would f*kc her " (these are real comments made by females)....you could have both until one of them finds another guy. I allowed the one who was older and more mature to get a glimpse inside my interactions with the other girl. Framed it like "she's sweet...she's just a lil girl a lot of times...just needs a little guidance from me and I love dominating her." Ive only attempted to pull this off once in my life, but the fact that she knew this other girl was attractive and clingy with me, me telling her that I dominated this other girl got her wet and made her pupils dilate. The girl that you are telling this to will now - even more than ever - understand you "get" women. You'll see he twinkle in her eye but after I did that, I kind of had to pedestalize her above the other girl. Let her know that the younger one has to respect her and any signs...I would drop the other girl. I also had to basically put all my chips on the fact that I'm very thorough about my personal life and don't want to make her look stupid (That's ALL women care about is looking stupid. "Don't make me look stupid!" Is like the key pass to knowing you can get away with this). I keep the mysterious frame solid...no kiss and tell, do not get involved in any gossip talk with them. Act like you could care less.

Basically when I had that tied up, I introduced them one night downtown and had the liquor flowing. They actually were hugging and dancing and both giving me looks as I wandered the club. The older one was doing all the work - looking for validation...and I never told the younger one the plan. Cats talk about intimacy on here....this level of trust with the older one was her intimacy with me and she loved it. Frank and Claire Underwood frame.

I'm still involved in this. I cut the older ones grass and I had to change the younger ones tire one night when she left the nail salon. I do manly beta things to show them I appreciate them. Don't know when it will end though and when one will drop out. Don't really care.

Nice game. I think it might be too late to try this though. And both of these girls are kind of down to earth. Girlfriend material like I said. Don't see them competing for me that way. It would be too weird to go in that direction when I never set that frame up earlier.

With slutty girls I don't even worry about it. Just pop my weasel cream in their face and forget about them until the next booty call. But these girls are great company and they are falling for me. That's the dilemma. Might have to pick one or lose both. I want to keep both as long as possible though.

 

[Dingo]

#2... Spicy, hot, young, clingy, demands attention.... What can possibly go wrong ?

I'd go with #1.... She's more chill. Long term you'll be happier.... trust me.

I wish I had your problem.... lol

 

[Dingo]

Actually...Come think about it I do kind of have your problem...

 

[kenpiffyjr]

Nice game. I think it might be too late to try this though. And both of these girls are kind of down to earth. Girlfriend material like I said. Don't see them competing for me that way. It would be too weird to go in that direction when I never set that frame up earlier.

With slutty girls I don't even worry about it. Just pop my weasel cream in their face and forget about them until the next booty call. But these girls are great company and they are falling for me. That's the dilemma. Might have to pick one or lose both. I want to keep both as long as possible though.

What's your current frame? I think you might be underestimating this. The fact that you have composed a situation where two women are falling for you at the same time is proof that you can pull this off. Not bc of your individual skillset, but because women know when there's others...they know man...and if one or the other pits you in a situation where you have to "choose"...they are performing under competition anxiety covertly off the hidden mindframe that they know you are working with options. It's like the Barzini meeting...the one that comes to you first about being "exclusive" is the one that knows more than you think about the other girl and feels she has something to lose.

No matter how down to earth you think the women are....The thing is Queens accepted the fact that their King had concubines. His frame of dominance and power allowed that dynamic in...almost like a mother who sees her son terrorize a park and just says "boys will be boys". If you get in a situation where one is making you choose, that means your frame is where it should be to be honest. What you think if she says i want to be exclusive and you say no she'll just logically disappear? Lol!....: accept the power she is giving you and just pivot your frame into that power by giving her your form of power in the trade by pedestalizing her above the other girl. In fewer words: Make her a Queen! If she won't accept it and walks, she made the ultimate decision for you.

Don't be afraid to be a sociopath! Women magnate to men like this.

 

[Atom Smasher]

#2 is going to end up high-maintenance. I guarantee it. In fact, from the little you said, I wouldn't be surprised if #2 turned out to have BPD tendencies. A major tip off is the family ambush. This reveals a definite problem in her ability to asses what is appropriate.

Not saying she is in fact BPD, but there is enough there to warrant the possibility.

If you're relationship minded, I'd take #1.

Choose the chill.

 

[Julian]

Wana be a real alpha? Go GHOST on both of those hoes, then get yourself a new sports coupe and a new female and let these females know they dont run ****!

This is how you mindfuk them and get them both to give you their all then you live like a king and pursue your personal dreams since these chicks should just be on the side anyway.

the family ambush was fkin bogus...think about what other "surprises" shes gonna have in store when shes giving birth to chads or jamals baby.

 

[Desdinova]

Based on age, girl # 2 is the winner

 

[Initiatedindenial]

I would go with number 1, reason being that the main factor on number 2 is sex, and I can bet that her extraordinary sex hunger is mainly driven by the fact that she knows she is not safe. Other parts of your description match that criteria as well. As soon as she feels safe sex will revert to the mean and you will be stuck with a lesser girl.

Just my 0.02 $.

 

[greatsnake]

Wana be a real alpha? Go GHOST on both of those hoes, then get yourself a new sports coupe and a new female and let these females know they dont run ****!

This is how you mindfuk them and get them both to give you their all then you live like a king and pursue your personal dreams since these chicks should just be on the side anyway.

the family ambush was fkin bogus...think about what other "surprises" shes gonna have in store when shes giving birth to chads or jamals baby.

cheers on this one.

 

[Urbanyst]

What's your current frame? I think you might be underestimating this. The fact that you have composed a situation where two women are falling for you at the same time is proof that you can pull this off. Not bc of your individual skillset, but because women know when there's others...they know man...and if one or the other pits you in a situation where you have to "choose"...they are performing under competition anxiety covertly off the hidden mindframe that they know you are working with options. It's like the Barzini meeting...the one that comes to you first about being "exclusive" is the one that knows more than you think about the other girl and feels she has something to lose.

No matter how down to earth you think the women are....The thing is Queens accepted the fact that their King had concubines. His frame of dominance and power allowed that dynamic in...almost like a mother who sees her son terrorize a park and just says "boys will be boys". If you get in a situation where one is making you choose, that means your frame is where it should be to be honest. What you think if she says i want to be exclusive and you say no she'll just logically disappear? Lol!....: accept the power she is giving you and just pivot your frame into that power by giving her your form of power in the trade by pedestalizing her above the other girl. In fewer words: Make her a Queen! If she won't accept it and walks, she made the ultimate decision for you.

Don't be afraid to be a sociopath! Women magnate to men like this.

Some good advice here. You might be onto something.

Thanks for all the replies guys. Lots of good insight.

Liking these girls more than normal has made me kind of soft on them and I've been giving into their frame too much. I'm going to keep dating both of them, but I might cool off on Girl #2 and see how she handles it. She is too clingy at the moment and that surprise family meeting is a red flag. If she goes BPD on me she will disqualify herself and make this decision much easier. I detest drama and I've dumped a lot of girls over drama alone.

 

[Urbanyst]

Ehh.. so I dropped Girl #2 about two weeks ago to focus more on Girl #1 who seemed like great Girlfriend material and I was really getting to like her A LOT. Girl #2 was also getting too clingy and turning into a total b*tch. But know Girl #1 is ghosting me. Can you believe it?? No communication from her since Wednesday of last week. Probably some stupid mind game sh*t, or maybe I like her too much so she is cooling off.

I'm starting to think that no matter what your position, you are not allowed to ever LIKE a woman too much. Once you like them everything goes down hill.

Now I have to get back in the damn field and find new plates. F*ckin' sh*t. I don't know how some guys do LTR's that last for years. There's something LTR guys have that I don't. I'm cranky as heck because now I have to smash sluts until I find more quality plates. Women are so f*ckin' annoying sometimes. The red pill is real.. let me tell you.

 

[bigneil]

Love triangle problems?

Make it a love quadrilateral, or a love pentagon.

 

[QuadDeuces]

If you don't want to choose then why do you allow yourself to be manipulated to choose against your will?
When they ask, just tell these hoes that they are welcome to tag along for the ride, but you won't change yourself for them, they are happy to leave any time.
In my experience nothing makes a girls puzzies wetter than a statement like that.

 

[Urbanyst]

Guys, you gotta read the entire thread before you post! Both of these b*tches are TOAST man. Very disappointed because these were the best plates I pulled in a long time.

Now I have to go back into the f*cking field. No good sexual options at the moment, other than some 6's who are into me. Not happy right now.

@da dynamically I hear ya. I don't think I ever made these women the focus of my life. But the sex was so good and they were so hot and fun to be around. I got sucked in more than usual. Thought Girl #1 was LTR material which is hard to find. Whatever though. Back to the field...

 

[soulforge]

What a lot of successful guys do is they start shopping for a GF. The guy thinks a woman he has perfect chemistry with will be the final piece to his life and make him feel complete. But in reality, this frame will only ensure he will never find the perfect GF. This is actually the frame of every successful woman who can't find a husband. It's the romantic frame you've been duped to believe in because of Hollywood.

The romantic frame makes you needy and you will only manifest the absolute worse scenarios.

A guy's version of liking a woman involves changing how he acts, which destroys whatever good qualities he had in the beginning. You should always be who you were in the beginning, even in an LTR (The stud bachelor with options). Most guys in LTR's with hot women (that I know) are either dreaming of making millions of dollars (and spending all their time working) or trying to escape and hang out with their mates at the pub. Most of them don't actually want to be around their hot GF's outside the bedroom. This is why they have hot GF's.

This is the "woman waiting at home wanting you to come back from guys night out" dynamic. This dynamic is crucial for LTR's. You shouldn't want to be home with her. And she SHOULD complain that you are working too much or spending too much time on your passions and hobbies. Whatever she is complaining about is what drives her to you. You get rid of your emotional detachment just to appease her and attraction is gone. Always have a purpose beyond all petty romance. This is the masculine polarity. The man is about his purpose and the woman is about her romance.

I don't think it has anything to do with the red pill. I think it has more to do with masculine/feminine dynamics. My best relationships have always been when I have been distant, aloof, and focusing on greater things than petty romance, and the woman is trying to manage our relationship, thinking about the future, etc. If you observe most LTR's, the dynamic is always the guy trying to achieve his purpose and the woman managing the relationship. And no, your purpose should never be relationships. This will only drive women away (girl number 1), or attract needy, nerotic women (girl number 2).

As for myself, back when I boosted my SMV value to attract women in my late twenties, it felt great. But I got quickly bored of women and now I am trying to write a book, invest in real estate, and various other things. And my dating life has never been better. Sometimes I take two weeks just to respond back to a plate and she is happy to hear from me. I just don't have time, even for pvssy.

This is Gold... The most successful LTR's I have ever had, are the ones, where I did not give that much of a fuk about them..

I would occasionally make excuses not to see them.. I would be less effectionate towards them..

I would let her do all the, lets have a fun day out blah blah blah...

The moment you catch the feels, and start giving her what she wants... it goes down hill from there...

Seriously man, you have to control the feels always..

Even if you really like her, you have you control that chit, and not give much of a fuk..

I know dudes who have had long term relationships, and barely ever shown that girl much love or effection..

Just porn sex.. then head off to work..

Man I intend to live by this golden rule!