For you guys in your 20's or early 30s struggling with women......

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It gets better with age....IF YOU STAY IN PHYSICAL SHAPE

I did horrible with women until about 24ish and then got the occasional date and hookups 25 to 27...and I was always in decent shape, tall (6'), full head of hair, decent face.

Late 20's were a little better where I was able to hook up and date some undergrads when I was in graduate school.

However, I think mid 30's to late 30's and now 40 have been the best. When I was 37, I hooked up with a 22 year old and dated a girl 12 years my junior when I was 38.

I had a 24 year old I knew from the gym looking at me like I was Greek God when I ran into her at St. Patricks Day two months ago and I recently went out with a girl 13 years my junior.

Where were these girls when I was in my 20's, early 30's?

My point, women like and prefer older men if you are in good shape and confident of course. By older, I don't mean a 20 year old, liking a 45 year old, but usually 5, 10, 15 years older.

Being bald, balding and being on the short side isn't that bad of a thing, just be in shape.

As Jesse Spencer has said, "Young women want an older man with a younger mans body.
 
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Good on you OP but the whole older guy younger woman dynamic is overplayed. The reality is that you just got better and that is it. Most hot girls who are in their 20s tend to prefer to go for guys around their age that are either hot or have some major status. I don't really see that hot 22 year old going for older guys unless she is broke, social judgment just runs at an all time high in that sense.
 

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Good on you OP but the whole older guy younger woman dynamic is overplayed. The reality is that you just got better and that is it. Most hot girls who are in their 20s tend to prefer to go for guys around their age that are either hot or have some major status. I don't really see that hot 22 year old going for older guys unless she is broke, social judgment just runs at an all time high in that sense.

Agreed. As a younger dude. I see chicks mostly fūcking other high value men around our age. In fact, I very rarely see hot young chicks with older men.
 

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As I said earlier, the max is usually 10 years give or take a few years, so 14 years max.

It is more common than you think since a lot of men age better than women. There are plenty of 36 year old men who look 28, dating 24 year olds. The male is supposed to look slightly older than the female so it goes unnoticed.

I think the 20% of men get 80% of the women seems to apply to young males 18-25.

Most men at this age fail to get hot chicks because they lack confidence. It's hard to have confidence when your broke and you have little experience.

These younger guys that seem to have hot women all the time are either very handsome and or come from a life of privilege where their parents kissed their asses or they are very good at sports (Where people also kiss your ass).

I don't know, in college you are surrounded by the most amount of beautiful women you probably ever will be but it seemed very difficult. It seems women that age only go for the top 20%.

All I'm saying is, as you get older the playing field seems to level out a bit. Men who weren't confident, now are because they have a career, more wisdom and are more fit than 50% of their peers.

No, I cant get a 22 year old or a 25 year old at 40, but it seems its easier to get a 28-32 year old now then it was when I was also 28-32 because I look younger than 40, I am more confident at 40, than 30 due to greater life experience and wealth and I am still fit.
 
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So if a guy reaches 25, never really had much success with girls, and still has college to finish, is he **** out of luck?
 

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It gets better with age....IF YOU STAY IN PHYSICAL SHAPE

However, I think mid 30's to late 30's and now 40 have been the best. When I was 37, I hooked up with a 22 year old and dated a girl 12 years my junior when I was 38.

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I don't know about that bro. I was destroying it with good looking girls in my 20s when I didn't have much. I was getting set up left and right with really good looking girls too. I once slept with one girl and went on a date with another good looking girl the same night.

In mid to late 30s, even though I am much much better financially, more experience, more game, more everything, I cannot get 30+ year old women to call me back.

So it all depends, one decade isn't necessarily better than the other. Depends on the circumstances of each situation.
 

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I don't know about that bro. I was destroying it with good looking girls in my 20s when I didn't have much. I was getting set up left and right with really good looking girls too. I once slept with one girl and went on a date with another good looking girl the same night.

In mid to late 30s, even though I am much much better financially, more experience, more game, more everything, I cannot get 30+ year old women to call me back.

So it all depends, one decade isn't necessarily better than the other. Depends on the circumstances of each situation.
What about women under 30?
 
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