Sex - more important to guys or girls?

[mrgoodstuff]

True. Men really could care less about companionship, they just want to bust a nut. Women mostly have ulterior motives when giving up the snatch, they wanna lock you down (most of the time).

Some of us guys want GOOD sex, not just to "bust a nut". I can bust a nut on my own.

 

[stovepipe]

Some of us guys want GOOD sex, not just to "bust a nut". I can bust a nut on my own.

Doesn't EVERYONE want good sex? I didn't state men wanted to bust mediocre nutz lol.

 

[bigneil]

Yes, many of the women who strip are bi or straight up lezbo's. Don't even like men AT ALL...

My girlfriend is bi. I took her to a strip club she had never been to once. Ironically, the first girl I saw there was a girl I had taken on a date before, and photographed (in tasteful clothing). I got my girl a table dance with my former date (who is still in love with me so it was great). My normally ladylike girl who wears flowery summer dresses turned into a total dude instantly and spread her legs as wide as she could as the girl danced. It was really odd.

 

[BeExcellent]

Sex is what a woman has to do to keep the man. Good sex or bad sex doesn't really matter to her. It's about what the sex it will get her; it's a means to an end.

It's the same reason married woman don't care about sex after several years of marriage. Why should they? Husband isn't going anywhere. She doesn't have to make him happy. Plenty of other guys willing to bend over backwards for her. Why do you think rich guys have wives AND mistresses and their wives still stay with them? They don't need "good sex", they need image, status, novelty.

That's not to say women don't enjoy sex, but it's ultimately about what it will get her.

The idea that married women never care/don't care about sex is an ego protecting myth. Lots of married women want, need and enjoy great sex in marriage. One of the reasons I kept loyal to my ex husband after his business fell apart (for many years in fact) was the fact that he was really great in bed. We also were best friends. The level of intimacy was incredible and the sex improved from a great baseline over time, even when things were very tough in the marriage. It was never about some transactional exchange as you allude to. Not all women see sex as currency, but I can certainly see why men would think that is 100% true in the current marketplace. The women who don't behave in this way are largely taken.

My point is it isn't a black and white thing at all. It depends on the person in question.

 

[bigneil]

The idea that married women never care/don't care about sex is an ego protecting myth. Lots of married women want, need and enjoy great sex in marriage. One of the reasons I kept loyal to my ex husband after his business fell apart (for many years in fact) was the fact that he was really great in bed. We also were best friends. The level of intimacy was incredible and the sex improved from a great baseline over time, even when things were very tough in the marriage. It was never about some transactional exchange as you allude to. Not all women see sex as currency, but I can certainly see why men would think that is 100% true in the current marketplace. The women who don't behave in this way are largely taken.

My point is it isn't a black and white thing at all. It depends on the person in question.

How long does sex improve under ideal circumstances liked yours seemed to be?

 

[Krueg]

Everyone is different.

One gal wanted sex more often than I did, and I thought I was a horn dog.

Another one said it was more "personal" so she wasnt into just "doing it" all the time. She wanted it to be "special".

Different stokes for different folks.. Seek what fits your needs!

 

[BeExcellent]

How long does sex improve under ideal circumstances liked yours seemed to be?

The circumstances were anything but ideal over time.

My ex husband & I were actually chatting about this today.

In the face of an increasingly painful marriage we turned toward each other rather than away from each other. It helped us release tension, remember what was still good between us, and gave us intimacy & sexual fulfillment. There was never an issue in the desire department. Sometimes it was the calm within the storm.

We marvel, truly marvel at how the sex & intimacy continued to grow even in the face of real difficulty.

My ex still wants me to reconcile although we have both dated other people. He is utterly succinct and direct about that. He is the only man not in my league success wise who I would give the time of day. Why? Nobody knows me better, mentally and emotionally, nobody understands me better sexually and we still function as an absolute team regarding the children, our extended families and our work, where we each support each other with scheduling & childcare.

It's funny. As much as I am loathe to admit it we are in some ways bonded more strongly than many married couples...but I fear the toxicity creeping back in if indeed we reconcile, I don't want to go back into the dynamic I divorced him to get away from.

He knows I am free to meet someone else & go...I know he can do the same. Am I the best woman he can get? He thinks so but he is willing to walk completely away too. Is he the best man I can get? In some ways yes, in some ways not at all. So I have to really examine what I value where he is concerned.

This is the father of my kids, my best friend, a great lover, a great companion and a good man. I genuinely like him. Always have.

He has embarked on the journey back to being the man I fell in love with in the beginning. By going back to work, by rebuilding his pride in his body & his appearance, losing 40 lbs., by behaving like a man who has choices. Will it work out? I don't know.

Physically we were always very well matched anatomically and erotically. There has always been great desire. We always sought to please each other (and we still do )

 

[BeExcellent]

You must be a true joy to be around

And you seem bitter.

I am regularly told exactly that in all sincerity sans the sarcasm, lol.

The circles I move in are full of very successful people. So it's natural that I meet lots of successful men. Water seeks its own level. My ex is the singular exception for the reasons I noted above. Nobody else has a dog in the hunt.

But the thread is about the importance of sex. That falls on a continuum for any individual. To me it's important.

 

[Reykhel]

Ha, very good technique that I can see working. Its all mind games man. Im sure if that tables were turned, Id be trying to eat her snatch better than she ever had. Also, I can see how it might backfire depending on the girl. Most chicks who enjoy giving head are sloots. The ones who give really good head and swallow are super sloots.

I'll be honest, Im so broken from this past 2 year relationship with a BPD. She gave the best head I ever had in my entire life and lots of it! She drank every drop, deep throated, she was flat out so intense and seductive. She even told me she spoiled and that Ill never be the same from it (she was right). Now that shes gone, I feel there is no hope anymore. Its like Im programmed to only think of her, no other women really attracts me, I long for her affection.

I sound like a beta phagot, I know. I've hit up at least 40 girls on POF, only two girls have taken the time to start a conversation. The others just say a word or two and disappear. One of them i was supposed to go on a date with. Well she stopped responding, and the other one as well. I get too attached too fast. Im sure its because I was being overly sweet and attentive with my last message. Not going to respond back, just wait it out I guess. Im losing hope in life, in myself and women in general. Being my ex was a *****, it only reminds me how hard you have to work with a women who respects herself vs a *****. My heart is so broken I have no idea how to move on, while my ex is sucking cawk and starting new relationships Im here crying some days hating life. Feel stupid for even letting all that out, but better than holding it in I guess.

"Most chicks who enjoy giving head are sloots" "The ones who give really good head and swallow are super sloots"

This is really faulty thinking and stems from deep seated beliefs that the sooner you let go of the better for your all around mental health and life enjoyment. This probably stems from having a "the one" mentality and believing somehow that girls who enjoy sex are somehow "bad".

What if you met a virgin and you two really hit it off. She was totally devoted to you but obviously inexperienced in bed. So it's up to you to "train her" and you end up developing a really great sexual connection and overall great sex life. You obviously like oral and she wants to please you, she tries it and she likes it. It just so happens that the energy she gets from liking it makes her really good at it. She decides to swallow because "you are in a relationship and it would be special with you".

Would you suddenly label her a fvcking sloot? Even though she was a virgen when you met but has since developed into a master c0ck sucker? She just enjoys sex is all......

Old video from rsd........might do you good

 

[BeExcellent]

Yes, exactly. My mother in law was exactly as described in your post. She has had sex with exactly 1 man in her entire life. And she was delighted to please him in that way.

 

[stovepipe]

"Most chicks who enjoy giving head are sloots" "The ones who give really good head and swallow are super sloots"

This is really faulty thinking and stems from deep seated beliefs that the sooner you let go of the better for your all around mental health and life enjoyment. This probably stems from having a "the one" mentality and believing somehow that girls who enjoy sex are somehow "bad".

What if you met a virgin and you two really hit it off. She was totally devoted to you but obviously inexperienced in bed. So it's up to you to "train her" and you end up developing a really great sexual connection and overall great sex life. You obviously like oral and she wants to please you, she tries it and she likes it. It just so happens that the energy she gets from liking it makes her really good at it. She decides to swallow because "you are in a relationship and it would be special with you".

Would you suddenly label her a fvcking sloot? Even though she was a virgen when you met but has since developed into a master c0ck sucker? She just enjoys sex is all.

It may be a faulty way of thinking, but it's my way. While he made some valid points in the video, dudes a douche nozzle. Most guys can tell if a girl a sloot by the way she gives head. You just get that gut feeling. Sloots who banged two guys in a night, or had a ton of partners are not girls I would want a LTR, or would trust, they are more likely to cheat and have an STD.

Those kind of girls are fun to smash for a little then bounce.My last GF was very experienced in the bedroom. She told me just about everything about her sexual past including sleeping with her teacher at the age of 15 and a 3 some. She sucked the best cawk ever, drank every drop, lots of positions and was confident about it. Did it make me uncomfortable, a little jealous, little insecure? Yes it did. With all that said, I still gave her the benefit of the doubt and started a LTR. What happened? Exactly what I predicted would happen. She couldn't be trusted, broke my heart and gave me an STD. To each their own.

 

[Initiatedindenial]

To women, sex is a means to an end. It is very rarely the end goal. Sure, in a relationship you'll have a few nights when she really wants sex, but that's only because the man has met her other needs which came first.

This. For women sex is a tool to get what they want.

Additionally I once read an article that p
proved that Men on average have 13x more sexual drive than Women. Yes for sure there is the occasional Nympho that will make you say no more, but it s not the norm.

 

[bigneil]

If you think women like sex as much as men, try this experiment:

• Have a hot girl you know send sexually explicit texts to 10 men she knows, offering sex and see how many say no.
• Then have a hot guy you know send sexually explicit texts to 10 women he knows, offering sex and see how many say yes.

They already tried this experiment in real life. The equally hot guy did not get ONE girl to agree to f*ck him when he walked up and offered sex, the girl did.

 

[stovepipe]

If you think women like sex as much as men, try this experiment:

• Have a hot girl you know send sexually explicit texts to 10 men she knows, offering sex and see how many say no.
• Then have a hot guy you know send sexually explicit texts to 10 women he knows, offering sex and see how many say yes.

They already tried this experiment in real life. The equally hot guy did not get ONE girl to agree to f*ck him when he walked up and offered sex, the girl did.

Ha, cant get more spot on than that.

 

[Initiatedindenial]

If you think women like sex as much as men, try this experiment:

• Have a hot girl you know send sexually explicit texts to 10 men she knows, offering sex and see how many say no.
• Then have a hot guy you know send sexually explicit texts to 10 women he knows, offering sex and see how many say yes.

They already tried this experiment in real life. The equally hot guy did not get ONE girl to agree to f*ck him when he walked up and offered sex, the girl did.

And this finishes the debate.

 

[bigneil]

Source:

 

[BeExcellent]

Meh. This just reveals that men are direct & women are indirect. Men are overt & women are covert.

Y'all are accepting a false premise that women have the same decision process as men.

My guess is lots of men stink at sex. Would you want awful sex? Me neither. Somehow I don't think men who are great lovers have this issue at all. Show me a great lover & I'll show you a man that this question would never occur to. He'd be too covered up in women to know any different.

 

[stovepipe]

My guess is lots of men stink at sex. Would you want awful sex? Me neither. Somehow I don't think men who are great lovers have this issue at all. Show me a great lover & I'll show you a man that this question would never occur to. He'd be too covered up in women to know any different.

Im a great lover and still have that problem.

 

[bigneil]

Tell me someone didn't say Meh.

When a woman tells a man he is the greatest lover she ever had, do you realize what that means? It means he's the greatest lover she ever had, that week.

 

[Reykhel]

It may be a faulty way of thinking, but it's my way. While he made some valid points in the video, dudes a douche nozzle. Most guys can tell if a girl a sloot by the way she gives head. You just get that gut feeling. Sloots who banged two guys in a night, or had a ton of partners are not girls I would want a LTR, or would trust, they are more likely to cheat and have an STD.

Those kind of girls are fun to smash for a little then bounce.My last GF was very experienced in the bedroom. She told me just about everything about her sexual past including sleeping with her teacher at the age of 15 and a 3 some. She sucked the best cawk ever, drank every drop, lots of positions and was confident about it. Did it make me uncomfortable, a little jealous, little insecure? Yes it did. With all that said, I still gave her the benefit of the doubt and started a LTR. What happened? Exactly what I predicted would happen. She couldn't be trusted, broke my heart and gave me an STD. To each their own.

I don't know what a "douche nozzle" is but I assume your not complimenting the guy.

So you're shaming the guy because he has a different value system than you. Probably your inner white knight coming out.

Yes you're right, it is your thinking. It seems to be very blue pill/disney, but like you say....it's yours so, whatever that means as a way of justifying where you're at.....enjoy....stay stuck.

So what you're saying is that only a prude would be suitable ltr material for you. And women who enjoy sex are sloots. Right.