Future cultural landscape and its impact on guys in regards to game as we get older.

[Listen_to_Olly]

These are interesting times for millenials in general, especially younger men, and a lot of conversations have come up about today's cultural tends.

• People are getting married at an older age
• "Extended adolescence" to where people party longer
• Hedonism and hookup culture becoming more accepted
• A break away from the traditional marriage + kids + mortgage life at 25

In one way or another, we are all at the mercy of the times.

For those of us who chase women, want to get laid, and want to live the player life; it relies a lot on other people as well. You have to have women to game and an atmosphere where hookup culture is accepted, it's much easier to get laid in a place with loose moral values as opposed to getting laid in the time of the puritans.

We seem to be at the center of major cultural changes right now but I am more concerned about how that impacts guys in regards to game as we get older.

All of the political freaks on here will more than readily start coming up with random conspiracy theories but I don't care about that on a game forum, I care more about what kind of a landscape it creates for the male bachelor in the future as he gets older. What kind of a social landscape the 35 year old player of tomorrow is inheriting.

Where are we heading?

Is 30 truly going to be the new 20?

Will this mean that the 30 year old player is not really the outcast but more normal?

Are we looking at a society full of men like the successful legends of this forum?

 

[lizardking82]

Well, you got men who are opting out of marriages because it is a kind of a lifethreat right now, really. It is like flipping a coin and risking to lose half of everything so it is definitely not the "christian" environment you want for the family to be the dominating culture. So yeah, it seems like for the time being, unless something drastic happens, we're probably headed to times where the player is the norm as more and more guys go MGTOW or just decide to have fun until their late 30s.

 

[Who Dares Win]

My concern is this case its not what society think is acceptable or not.

Once your social position is high enough you can disregard rules, they are for average people.

My concern are women which already now passed their 30s are good only for the trash bin in most of the cases and the more time passes the fatter and cvntish they become.

And thanks to that cvnt of zuckenberg the western plague spreads east too, so more fat entitled women where once was a pvssy paradise.

 

[The Duke]

I'd say it will continue to get easier and easier to be a "player". We have moved away from the teachings of the church(family, marriage, virgins, no sex until marriage) to a world that values none of those things so casual sechs is more accepted.

I see more sechsual opportunity than ever before. These days its almost acceptable for a woman to have multiple partners by age 25. Thirty years ago she would of had the "wh0re" label placed on her and it would have followed her every where.

MGTOW didn't exist 20years ago. It makes me laugh when I see men wanting to join such a thing. The world is more conducive to finding a girl than ever before, yet many get frustrated and give up. When I see how male millennials live their life, I begin to understand. Male millennials are the biggest collection of male faggots I've ever seen. You had no macho male role models to learn from. You lack ambition, drive, and desire. You don't go to college. You don't care about getting a drivers license. You don't care about having a job. You went to prom with out dates. You are lacking many skills that the generations before had. Its no wonder women aren't interested.....you have little to offer. I'm not saying ALL of you are this way, but its a significant number.

The #1 complaint I hear from women regarding men these days are the millennials aren't very MANLY! You were raised by single mommies, no father figures. Every one of you got a trophy even tho you sucked. Every thing was given to you. This is not how you produce strong, confident, ambitious men.

There is also a role reversal going on. Men are becoming more feminine, women are becoming more masculine. Perhaps women will seek out older men as they find the millennials have nothing to offer???

 

[lizardking82]

I'd say it will continue to get easier and easier to be a "player". We have moved away from the teachings of the church(family, marriage, virgins, no sex until marriage) to a world that values none of those things so casual sechs is more accepted.

I see more sechsual opportunity than ever before. These days its almost acceptable for a woman to have multiple partners by age 25. Thirty years ago she would of had the "wh0re" label placed on her and it would have followed her every where.

MGTOW didn't exist 20years ago. It makes me laugh when I see men wanting to join such a thing. The world is more conducive to finding a girl than ever before, yet many get frustrated and give up. When I see how male millennials live their life, I begin to understand. Male millennials are the biggest collection of male faggots I've ever seen. You had no macho male role models to learn from. You lack ambition, drive, and desire. You don't go to college. You don't care about getting a drivers license. You don't care about having a job. You went to prom with out dates. You are lacking many skills that the generations before had. Its no wonder women aren't interested.....you have little to offer. I'm not saying ALL of you are this way, but its a significant number.

The #1 complaint I hear from women regarding men these days are the millennials aren't very MANLY! You were raised by single mommies, no father figures. Every one of you got a trophy even tho you sucked. Every thing was given to you. This is not how you produce strong, confident, ambitious men.

There is also a role reversal going on. Men are becoming more feminine, women are becoming more masculine. Perhaps women will seek out older men as they find the millennials have nothing to offer???

And you understand all of that has different causes of which these millennials are almost completely not to blame for, right?

 

[resilient]

I think that marriage as the endgame is getting increasingly devalued in our society. Broken families are raising children where the family unit isn't as important as becoming strong and independent. Then, you also have so many people that feel pressured to compete in an increasingly competitive work environment. That competitiveness requires more schooling to achieve more knowledge gained academia and other work experiences. That makes most consciously push off marriage...

Many want to climb to the top so they can achieve status and a lifestyle of choosing where to travel, live, nice clothing, a slick ride, or attract more plates. If you obtain high SMV and you know you can pull, why would you want to settle down in an LTR/marriage? Lol... The successful person that does settle, isn't rooted in church teachings that stress monogamy, is more likely to stray because of how easy it becomes for opportunities to seduce, especially if traveling for work is involved.

Besides, the longer it takes to become more financially successful, the more likely that person is to delay marriage.

Polyamory is also becoming increasingly accepted in our society. Look at this article.

"We're just starting to ask these questions in research," sex researcher and educator Zhana Vrangalova said. "But there does seem to be a growing group of people who are open to exploring. Even if they ultimately decide that non-monogamy isn't for them, more couples are making that decision after an informed consideration, rather than just judging and rejecting it."​

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

I'd say it will continue to get easier and easier to be a "player". We have moved away from the teachings of the church(family, marriage, virgins, no sex until marriage) to a world that values none of those things so casual sechs is more accepted.

I see more sechsual opportunity than ever before. These days its almost acceptable for a woman to have multiple partners by age 25. Thirty years ago she would of had the "wh0re" label placed on her and it would have followed her every where.

MGTOW didn't exist 20years ago. It makes me laugh when I see men wanting to join such a thing. The world is more conducive to finding a girl than ever before, yet many get frustrated and give up. When I see how male millennials live their life, I begin to understand. Male millennials are the biggest collection of male faggots I've ever seen. You had no macho male role models to learn from. You lack ambition, drive, and desire. You don't go to college. You don't care about getting a drivers license. You don't care about having a job. You went to prom with out dates. You are lacking many skills that the generations before had. Its no wonder women aren't interested.....you have little to offer. I'm not saying ALL of you are this way, but its a significant number.

The #1 complaint I hear from women regarding men these days are the millennials aren't very MANLY! You were raised by single mommies, no father figures. Every one of you got a trophy even tho you sucked. Every thing was given to you. This is not how you produce strong, confident, ambitious men.

There is also a role reversal going on. Men are becoming more feminine, women are becoming more masculine. Perhaps women will seek out older men as they find the millennials have nothing to offer???

Don't go to college? You do know that college attendance is at an all time high among millenials than any other generation before right? I am not a big fan of my generation myself but most of what you just said is straight garbage.

As for women not being interested, are we talking women over 40?

Most hot girls in the 18-25 age range are dating hot guys near their age range.

You may not like the hipster wearing skinny jeans but the pretty blonde in yuppie-ville seems him as the beauty standard.

Now we can argue about whether or not that should be the standard but the truth is, the male "faggots" you hate with your post are getting hot girls. Just go out some time, you will rarely see an older guy with hot girls unless he is filthy rich and handsome.

 

[El Payaso]

Don't go to college? You do know that college attendance is at an all time high among millenials than any other generation before right?

College enrollment and attendance is actually declining among males and increasing among women. I believe it is at a 60/40 split right now.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

College enrollment and attendance is actually declining among males and increasing among women. I believe it is at a 60/40 split right now.

That could be true but men also make up the majority in majors that pay after college (engineering, STEM, etc.).

 

[The Duke]

Don't go to college? You do know that college attendance is at an all time high among millenials than any other generation before right? I am not a big fan of my generation myself but most of what you just said is straight garbage.

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You do know that the typical male to female percentage amongst college students is 40% male? That's what I'm talking about. That's not garbage at all, go look it up yourself before you try and blow smoke up my azz

 

[AttackFormation]

I'd say it will continue to get easier and easier to be a "player". We have moved away from the teachings of the church(family, marriage, virgins, no sex until marriage) to a world that values none of those things so casual sechs is more accepted.

I see more sechsual opportunity than ever before. These days its almost acceptable for a woman to have multiple partners by age 25. Thirty years ago she would of had the "wh0re" label placed on her and it would have followed her every where.

MGTOW didn't exist 20years ago. It makes me laugh when I see men wanting to join such a thing. The world is more conducive to finding a girl than ever before, yet many get frustrated and give up. When I see how male millennials live their life, I begin to understand. Male millennials are the biggest collection of male faggots I've ever seen. You had no macho male role models to learn from. You lack ambition, drive, and desire. You don't go to college. You don't care about getting a drivers license. You don't care about having a job. You went to prom with out dates. You are lacking many skills that the generations before had. Its no wonder women aren't interested.....you have little to offer. I'm not saying ALL of you are this way, but its a significant number.

The #1 complaint I hear from women regarding men these days are the millennials aren't very MANLY! You were raised by single mommies, no father figures. Every one of you got a trophy even tho you sucked. Every thing was given to you. This is not how you produce strong, confident, ambitious men.

There is also a role reversal going on. Men are becoming more feminine, women are becoming more masculine. Perhaps women will seek out older men as they find the millennials have nothing to offer???

Always makes me smile when you see middle aged people complaining about millennials. We're this, we're that. But who raised us? they did

It's like what a BPD does, Don't take accountability, then blame your victim because you didn't

 

[The Duke]

Always makes me smile when you see middle aged people complaining about millennials. We're this, we're that. But who raised us? they did

It's like what a BPD does, Don't take accountability, then blame your victim because you didn't

lol, that's true and its been that way for generations! The one thing that I do see with millennials is they aren't as materialistic as some of us before them. There ya go millennials, feel good about yourself. Uncle Howie gave you slackers a compliment! ;-)

 

[mrgoodstuff]

And you understand all of that has different causes of which these millennials are almost completely not to blame for, right?

Right. If females become more masculine. Where does it come from? The males.

 

[lizardking82]

Right. If females become more masculine. Where does it come from? The males.

No besides that, what I meant is that a kid raised by a single mom that has no male models and strong father figure is not to blame for this. A kid that is raised to be a beta from the females is not at fault for his childhood, it's beyond his control. And no matter how much you try to change, it is quite hard to just sweep 15 or 20 years of your life under the rug.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

No besides that, what I meant is that a kid raised by a single mom that has no male models and strong father figure is not to blame for this. A kid that is raised to be a beta from the females is not at fault for his childhood, it's beyond his control. And no matter how much you try to change, it is quite hard to just sweep 15 or 20 years of your life under the rug.

I was saying if male and female live in the same space. And if female forces a more masculine position. That it takes from the male.

 

[SuckItUp]

I think there are a couple of things at play here.

I think the emphasis on being inoffensive and ocean has gotten to the point where individual autonomy has massively superseded the good of the whole. In other words Adam Smith's invisible hand no longer works as intended because it is built on the supposition individual goals were intertwined with communal goals.

This goes hand in hand with our over litigious society. Everyone now gets sued or threatened with a lawsuit when they feel wronged.

This leads into point three. Men do not appreciate the value of settling issues with fistscuffs with the issue being settled after the fight and respect being earned.

Now you either get sued, or shot at because we have a bunch of pussies who can't handle getting their ass beat. Part of being a man is getting your ass handed to you so you learn humility.

When I was younger one of my classmates punched me in the mouth and I bled and cried a bit but I didn't tattle on him. A few years later I got back at him by nearly breaking his arm in the wrestling room and forcing him to quit the team about 3 days after practice started.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

You do know that the typical male to female percentage amongst college students is 40% male? That's what I'm talking about. That's not garbage at all, go look it up yourself before you try and blow smoke up my azz

More people in general are going to college, not sure where you are digging your info from. Women do outnumber guys but the situation isn't that bad for men as we outnumber women in majors that actually pay (accounting, STEM, finance, etc.).