Value trumps all things

[AlphaNate]

I think I'm a high value stud. Therefore I act like one. Therefore everyone believes I am. Therefore hot women come onto me. Therefore it becomes the truth. I'm a high value stud.

SS wasn't ready for this truth bomb.

 

[Trump]

I waited almost a week to text her. This wasn't a game I was playing, I was just busy. I texted her Thursday after the weekend we met and invited her to come out with me on Saturday. She said she was too tired and wanted to stay home and rest. I told her no worries. Didn't text her back after that.

Again, I was not playing games. I just had other stuff going on so I wasn't that focused on her. Anyway, she texts me a week later asking me if I want to go out over the weekend. I told her I had plans already. Then she suggested Sunday. I said sure. So we got brunch on Sunday and she was very flirty. I invited her home to watch Netflix since Sunday's are lame for going out. We got physical while binge watching Archer. She came back Monday night to watch more Archer and we had sex again. She wants to come back again tonight, but I told her no, so we are going out for dinner and drinks tomorrow.

This girl is hot and I used no game on her at all and I didn't chase her at all. She just saw my value and decided she wanted to sleep with me and she is loving the sex.

I'm actually worried she is moving too fast to be honest. She wants to see me all the time. Not sure I want a relationship with her. In the spring and summer I like to be single. Plus I have some booty calls I want to keep hooking up with. Since I started making loads of money, I'm not as interested in commitment as I used to be. I would rather focus on making even more money.

You need high value in this game. When you don't have it, you live paranoid about losing your girl. Totally flips the script when you have value. I worry more about losing my money than losing any girl.

Bro what do you do that you keep talking "money, money, money, value, value, value?"

And when you mention a few times two paragraphs "I was NOT playing games." It means you were playing games.

Plus bro, as mentioned, what high value? You didn't take her out for an expensive dinner. You didn't pick her up in a limo. You didn't show her your penthouse. You watched some cartoons and ordered takeout. All you did was ignore her for a week and she needed validation.

To tell the truth, I have alot of assets and girls could care less. Women need excitement, the need novelty, they need popularity, they need image, they need status. These items are hard for them to get.

 

[Urbanyst]

Bro what do you do that you keep talking "money, money, money, value, value, value?"

And when you mention a few times two paragraphs "I was NOT playing games." It means you were playing games.

Plus bro, as mentioned, what high value? You didn't take her out for an expensive dinner. You didn't pick her up in a limo. You didn't show her your penthouse. You watched some cartoons and ordered takeout. All you did was ignore her for a week and she needed validation.

To tell the truth, I have alot of assets and girls could care less. Women need excitement, the need novelty, they need popularity, they need image, they need status. These items are hard for them to get.

Doesn't matter if I did that stuff. All that matters is I can if I want to.

I was not playing games. You are going to tell me what I was thinking when I didn't text her? That's funny lol.

 

[devilkingx2]

Doesn't matter if I did that stuff.

he's right about you not actually showing value

 

[Urbanyst]

he's right about you not actually showing value

So you agree money is value now?

Cool. We finally agree.

 

[devilkingx2]

So you agree money is value now?

Cool. We finally agree.

you can show value using money, you can show value without using money

you didn't really do either, unless the value you're talking about is the implication that you're not desperate

 

[Urbanyst]

you can show value using money, you can show value without using money

you didn't really do either, unless the value you're talking about is the implication that you're not desperate

The woman who had sex with me is the one who gets to say if I showed value, not you.

 

[devilkingx2]

The woman who had sex with me is the one who gets to say if I showed value, not you.

plot twist: I am that woman

 

[user43770]

You keep talking about money, but I fail to see what money has to do with your success here.

Most guys try to dress up (look wealthy) when going to the club. In this type of environment, how does actually having money set you apart from men pretending to have money?

Because making more money has made you more confident? How does that set you apart from guys that already have confidence and pretend to be wealthy?

What then, really constitutes high value?

 

[user43770]

And yes, I would accept a check for a million dollars. That doesn't mean I have to keep up with the Joneses in order to get laid or have self-confidence.

 

[Urbanyst]

plot twist: I am that woman

And I'm Batman.

 

[AlexKaiser]

The edge we have, though, is that if we delusionally think we have high value, with knowledge and awareness that we are purposely deluding ourselves in order to become that which we are thinking about, we start to become high value.

I was miserably low value and confused when I first came here. I have learned that if I act "as if", in any arena of life, I eventually become that which I want to be. It involves completely and utterly ignoring the reality of present circumstances and just acting as if things were different. It takes practice to be able to detach from "reality" like that.

When we feel worthless or low-value, we are delusional because of course no one is worthless. When we feel "high value" before we are, we are also being delusional. Why not delude oneself in the positive direction?

Detaching from the reality of my circumstances (or even my current state of growth) and just playing the part both outwardly and inwardly, has been one of the most powerful thought processes I have ever discovered.

At this phase of my growth, there are still things I feel woefully deficient in, but I have identified these things and have consciously and deliberately chosen to be that which I want to become in spite of the current "reality"... To "be the solution", if you will, instead of to find the solution.

How the hell do you lie to yourself and have it work? Do you get high or something? How do you know that you aren't a thing, and go "nah I'm still the thing." even though you know inside yourself that you're not "the thing" but act like the thing?

 

[Atom Smasher]

How the hell do you lie to yourself and have it work? Do you get high or something? How do you know that you aren't a thing, and go "nah I'm still the thing." even though you know inside yourself that you're not "the thing" but act like the thing?

In practical terms, it's really a ruthless ignoring of the negatives. Make it a habit to STOP those thoughts and reframe to what you know you will become.

It works just like developing muscles. When you keep practicing, you become good at it. I used to think that not paying attention to negative thoughts was somehow not right to do; that it was hiding my head in the sand. In actual fact, those emotions are there to serve one purpose... It's your subconscious mind alerting you that some kind of action needs to be taken. Once the subconscious is convinced that you are taking the action, it will pull back the negative emotion.

 

[Urbanyst]

How the hell do you lie to yourself and have it work? Do you get high or something? How do you know that you aren't a thing, and go "nah I'm still the thing." even though you know inside yourself that you're not "the thing" but act like the thing?

You can define yourself, or you can let others define you.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

The edge we have, though, is that if we delusionally think we have high value, with knowledge and awareness that we are purposely deluding ourselves in order to become that which we are thinking about, we start to become high value.

I was miserably low value and confused when I first came here. I have learned that if I act "as if", in any arena of life, I eventually become that which I want to be. It involves completely and utterly ignoring the reality of present circumstances and just acting as if things were different. It takes practice to be able to detach from "reality" like that.

When we feel worthless or low-value, we are delusional because of course no one is worthless. When we feel "high value" before we are, we are also being delusional. Why not delude oneself in the positive direction?

Detaching from the reality of my circumstances (or even my current state of growth) and just playing the part both outwardly and inwardly, has been one of the most powerful thought processes I have ever discovered.

At this phase of my growth, there are still things I feel woefully deficient in, but I have identified these things and have consciously and deliberately chosen to be that which I want to become in spite of the current "reality"... To "be the solution", if you will, instead of to find the solution.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this it:

As you think, you shall become.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

How the hell do you lie to yourself and have it work? Do you get high or something? How do you know that you aren't a thing, and go "nah I'm still the thing." even though you know inside yourself that you're not "the thing" but act like the thing?

Hey bro, I know that you want to feel genuine confidence, but understand that it takes time. For me to reprogram my mind, it took over a year to do, so you have to be patient. My username, "ImTheDoubleGreatest!" is actually a quote from Muhammad Ali. "I'm not the greatest; I'm the double greatest!" When Is as 15 I started watching a lot of his fights and a few interviews, read a lot about him, etc. What happened was that I began saying his quotes just because I liked him so much. Well after a while of saying these 'greatest' quotes religiously, I began to FEEL great. It got to a point where a few seconds after waking up in the morning, my first thought would be "I am the greatest!" And I would say it aloud too. It got to a point where saying it could no longer satisfy what I felt anymore because of how GREAT I felt, just my greatness was so high. And the aura around me, the vibe I have off to others, it attracted them to me. Even when they absolutely HATED me and talked crap about me, they still liked being around me. Eventually I stopped because my siblings and parents got super annoyed lol. Then Is topped feeing great and I have never been able to get back to that point again. I've done something like this one other time. It was the lowest point in my life, and everything had just seemed to happen to me. Well I kept saying how I had bad luck and all my family got sick of it, they didn't give a crap because no on likes a downer. Well my dad told me something that literally changed my life forever. He said to just say to myself, even if I don't believe it that I have the greatest luck in the world. To just think it to myself even if the situation truly is a bad one. No matter what, always tell yourself that you have good luck. I was skeptical and didn't believe it. He said to just say it and think it even if I didn't because at that point, what did I have to lose? Well it took a little over a year to do before I actually noticed a big difference. By the time I was 12, I saw just crazy things around me that just seemed to be happening by chance, and I always thought hat maybe it was because I had convinced myself that i had good luck. But all my friends one day were 'damn dude like how the hell does this kind of stuff happen to you so much?' And I just told them that I had the best luck in the world, the same thing I told myself I year before when I didn't believe it would do anything. Repeat to yourself these mantras and incantations over and over. Self-affirmations. It WILL work if you do it everyday, and a lot each day.
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How does this work? Well when I was reading stuff about the brain in my free time, I stumbled upon an article explains the difference between reality and imagination. Researchers noticed that when people imagine doing something, an activity of some sort, their muscles tense up in the places that would be worked if they actually were doing those activities. Say you imagine you are swimming, they notice that after several minutes, your muscles that would be contracting while ACTUALLY swimming contract even though you are just imagining it. Of course, it doesn't contract all the way, but it still does something. Researchers realized that the brain cannot distinguish the difference between reality and imagination, hence why your brain stem locks up while you are sleeping so that you don't move. Sometimes people have had sleep paralysis too, and that's because of the lingering effects of the brain stem locking up. There is a difference between imagining something vs when it actually happens; it's just that your brain cannot detect it. From what I read, your brain works like a circuit and runs in a specific direction. Well when imagining something, it runs in the opposite direction. It just can't really tell the difference.

This is why self-affirmations work. The most influential person in all the manosphere was a guy named 'Pook' and his most famous quote is "As you think, you shall become". This is what he was talking about. There is a science behind this. There's also more to it too, but that gets into theories and quantum physics and crap like that, that I just have t thought about in over a year. I don't repeat any mantras anymore, although I probably should.

If you are consistent with these phrases like "I am strong. I am powerful. I am confident. I have the best luck in the world. I am the greatest!' etc. then you WILL notice a difference in due time. I guarantee it.

 

[Urbanyst]

The million dollar question is, what is value.......to women?

This is the attraction/value hierarchy:

1. Dominance - Money, looks, status, social connections, muscles, etc. Anything that gives you an upper hand over the average guy.

2. Sexual tension - You have to be masculine and know how to sexually escalate with women. You can't be an emasculated nice guy even if you were filthy rich. Ever head of beta bucks? The number 1 tenet of "game" is "if you are not sexually escalating, you are not really doing anything." I have seen guys write 1000 word posts describing their girl problem without ever mentioning anything about escalating and seeing where it went. Remember, sexual tension is valuable to women. The LIVE for it. Romance novels are hundreds of pages of sexual tension. If you don't create sexual tension with women, you are playing tennis by yourself because the woman won't remember a damn thing about the interaction. Everything else has no value to her.

3. Intrigue - You don't have to tell women everything about yourself. Seduction is a dance, not a job interview. Don't solve yourself to women. If there are things she can't figure out about you, leave it up in the air. One of the most important things guys have to remember is a woman's fantasy of you is 1000 times better than the actual you. Or put another way, no matter how great you think you are, a woman's imagination can do a better job. This is why one night stands can happen. She is still intrigued by you. But as soon as she knows everything about you, the spell breaks and the chemistry fizzles. This is not because you are not attractive. It's just that intrigue causes women to chase and see the climax. Women love a good mystery. And the final reveal should always be "How good is he in bed?" This is the climax of the interaction. Often times, it won't end up in a relationship - unless there is perfect chemistry. But fvck it. Learn how to enjoy short term flings with women, have less expectations, and you'll be happier. Often times, guys spill their hearts out to women, ruin all intrigue, and the woman is ghost. These guys don't understand the value of being a mystery.

4.Credibility - Credibility is things like social proof, having your sh!t together, being in the same social circles, and being validated by other women. Being in a social circle with hot women is 1000 times easier to get laid than trying to chase after random chicks in a club. You have no credibility in the clubs. Even if you were dominant, intriguing, and charming, your lack of credibility could allow her friends to c0ckblock you. I have said this before: If you are a high value guy who knows how to escalate with women, the only thing left to do is finding social circles with a lot of hot women.

5. Connection - Contrary to popular belief, women are not totally devoid of emotions and incapable of feeling a connection. It's just that it is number 5 on the list, and not number 1, as society and romantic movies have led you to believe. First you actually need to be a Ryan Gosling before an epic romance like "The Notebook" can ever happen. So romance CAN exist. You just need to actually be an attractive male archetype. The same "romantic" moves done by a George Clooney type can and will be seen as creepy if you have no value. It's like if a 60 year old hag were to escalate on me. I would look at her like "Is she crazy? What planet is she from? How is she so entitled?"


Interacting with women is not the same as interacting with guys. You can't just open yourself up and have a buddy to buddy relationship. There is no polarity in that. And without polarity, there is no attraction. You have to be masculine, dominant, mysterious, yet slightly emotionally vulnerable to create attraction. Does this sound familiar? These are the characteristics of every attractive male archetype in the movies and romance novels.

Don't forget Money.

This is supposed to be a red pill site. But men here want to downplay the importance of money so bad.

When you say money isn't that important, you are essentially saying access to resources is not that important (food, shelter, clothes, medicine, etc.). Absurd to me. Women seek out men for resources and money is the key to resources.

Everything on your list can be the qualities of a homeless man living with rats. See how interested most women are then and how much "value" they see.

 

[Trump]

Don't forget Money.

This is supposed to be a red pill site. But men here want to downplay the importance of money so bad.

When you say money isn't that important, you are essentially saying access to resources is not that important (food, shelter, clothes, medicine, etc.). Absurd to me. Women seek out men for resources and money is the key to resources.

Bro you keep going one extreme to the other. If seems like if a guy isn't rich he is automatically homeless.

The site doesn't downplay money, and yes it is important for the basics and necessities of life. But after a certain amount, girls don't care. GENERALLY, an extra $50K, 100K, 200K, 400K is not going to matter for a girl if you stay at home watching videos every Friday night. You may know some exceptions. Generally, no girl is going to appreciate you just having money in the bank, but going to the same restaurant every Friday, going to a movie every Saturday, going shopping every Sunday. It's OK for the 1st few months, but then what?

Give you an example; my family knows another family with a good looking daughter. Their family and daughter knows my family has assets. Yet, the daughter hasn't made ANY attempt to hook with me. She picked a guy who is 6'1, more talkative, and has a PhD, I only have a Bachelor. Again, my family can CRUSH his family in assets and she knows this, but SHE DOESNT CARE. In fact, a lot girls know the same thing, and they DONT CARE. They are about fun, they are about novelty, they are about height, they are about hair.

So without going to extremes (being homeless) and with some exceptions, the money theory doesn't hold up. Yes this a red pill site, but it's more about being a man and not talking crap from women, not counting the zeros in your bank account alone every Friday and Saturday night.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

The edge we have, though, is that if we delusionally think we have high value, with knowledge and awareness that we are purposely deluding ourselves in order to become that which we are thinking about, we start to become high value.

I was miserably low value and confused when I first came here. I have learned that if I act "as if", in any arena of life, I eventually become that which I want to be. It involves completely and utterly ignoring the reality of present circumstances and just acting as if things were different. It takes practice to be able to detach from "reality" like that.
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Or rather, you can realize the inner potential you have by virtue of being a human being. You don't want the idea of self-delusion hanging over you like the sword of Damocles.

 

[Urbanyst]

Bro you keep going one extreme to the other. If seems like if a guy isn't rich he is automatically homeless.

The site doesn't downplay money, and yes it is important for the basics and necessities of life. But after a certain amount, girls don't care. GENERALLY, an extra $50K, 100K, 200K, 400K is not going to matter for a girl if you stay at home watching videos every Friday night. You may know some exceptions. Generally, no girl is going to appreciate you just having money in the bank, but going to the same restaurant every Friday, going to a movie every Saturday, going shopping every Sunday. It's OK for the 1st few months, but then what?

Give you an example; my family knows another family with a good looking daughter. Their family and daughter knows my family has assets. Yet, the daughter hasn't made ANY attempt to hook with me. She picked a guy who is 6'1, more talkative, and has a PhD, I only have a Bachelor. Again, my family can CRUSH his family in assets and she knows this, but SHE DOESNT CARE. In fact, a lot girls know the same thing, and they DONT CARE. They are about fun, they are about novelty, they are about height, they are about hair.

So without going to extremes (being homeless) and with some exceptions, the money theory doesn't hold up. Yes this a red pill site, but it's more about being a man and not talking crap from women, not counting the zeros in your bank account alone every Friday and Saturday night.

The money theory totally holds up.

What you posted is an example of how money is not the only factor. Once again, I never said it was. Other factors matter a lot and are very important. Overall, money is more important.

Obviously when the difference in money is small.. or when a woman has enough of her own money, then she will focus more on other factors. When the difference in money is large, money becomes more important. However, other factors continue to matter as well.

The point is you cannot make a list of things women care about without including money because women care about access to resources. When they have their own money, they don't care about that as much in a man. Like Jessica Alba won't be impressed by a guy with money. But she won't date someone working at Burger King who is handsome either.

Money always matters. Its silly to pretend otherwise.