Women Gets Clocked By Man & Its Refreshing To Watch

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This video put me in a good mood.



So a woman and man are arguing in the grocery store as seen on security camera footage (no audio). The woman puts her hand on the man first. He tries to get away and eventually leaves the store. Only to find her waiting for him outside. Then she follows him. And he cold clocks her in the face and knocks her silly.

The user comments on this one are just as sweet as the punch. You can tell its a lot of men who are tired of women's BS and are on their journey or already done swallowing the red pill. 90% of the commenters favored the man. The OP, "Active Self Protection", was being a white knight.

You guys will all love this video, I promise.
 

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That was not self-defense. That was aggravated battery. The guy is going to jail when he gets caught.

I do agree with the commentator about the sad attempt at a rear-naked choke, which did indeed look like someone whose training consisted of watching the UFC.
 

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That was not self-defense. That was aggravated battery. The guy is going to jail when he gets caught.

I do agree with the commentator about the sad attempt at a rear-naked choke, which did indeed look like someone whose training consisted of watching the UFC.
I agree with you. The guy should have kept on walking.
 

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I agree with you. The guy should have kept on walking.
She could have had a gun or other weapon. He didn't know. She followed him and got into his personal space. I think he handled it perfectly.
 

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Over reaction. Maybe he could have pushed her away as a warning. You should never throw the first punch. Of course the beetch was crazy but so many are
 

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Big overreaction by him to her "putting her hand on him" and waiting for him after the argument. I think you may be looking to justify after the fact. Hopefully he gets/got a visit from law enforcement.
 

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I'm really surprised at you guys' answers. As a cop called there I would have given them both a notice to appear for battery and disorderly conduct; Her on scene and him when he was located. If he didn't have a previous record he probably could have gotten out of this. But with his previous record he will probably be convicted.
 

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I'm really surprised at you guys' answers. As a cop called there I would have given them both a notice to appear for battery and disorderly conduct; Her on scene and him when he was located. If he didn't have a previous record he probably could have gotten out of this. But with his previous record he will probably be convicted.
You should think more of us.
 

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Well like most things we discuss here there's a few different lines of thought. Of course the woman behaved badly but since when is that anything new. We teach guys here to be solid and and reactive in the face of their undisciplined emotion. So basically to be smart. How did losing his s*** and getting locked up help the guy?
 

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"walking away" is the smart thing to do in our society and legal system but its not the right thing to do in general.

Its not any different than saying a slave to obey his master because otherwise he will be punished no matter what.

So he is not a loser cause he over reacted, he simply made a wrong decision given the state of things but his actions in terms of general justice were fine as much as a slave that break the chains and strike his master.

Not sure if I make myself clear.

Personally I find the arrive of these so called refugees in Europe not to be a total problem regarding these points, not all evil comes to harm and I already see rich people and women in general to behave more "politely" in the last years.

If he knocked out the woman and the dumbass with the red shirt right after and I was to see him I would simply turn away and pretend I didnt.
 

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I'm really surprised at you guys' answers. As a cop called there I would have given them both a notice to appear for battery and disorderly conduct; Her on scene and him when he was located. If he didn't have a previous record he probably could have gotten out of this. But with his previous record he will probably be convicted.
I'm with the others. When she followed him, he should have pushed her off of him or something, and said he was leaving and to stay away from him. If she followed or hit him, then he could deck her. He did it a little too early. And I know these things are often heat of the moment, but not here, man. She hadn't threatened him physically at that point.

She did get what she deserved though, just a little bit early.
 

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They both committed "battery" under Illinois law anyway. I speak for Illinois because that where I am at (and @Bible_Belt ). But most States are not too far out of the ballpark with each other on statutes. Judges, on the other hand, they are all over the map.

They both battered each other under these elements for battery (in Illinois). She battered him in the store by "insulting, provocative, or unwanted physical contact with another person." He battered her outside with "conduct causing bodily harm to another person". In addition, she also assaulted him outside the store, as an assault is "reasonable apprehension about impending battery". (source:findlaw.com). He could plead that he thought he was about to receive a battery, and the punch was self defense. What will happen in court? Again, his prior record may be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Otherwise, with no criminal record, I think he would be able to plead self defense and get out of this.
 

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He could plead that he thought he was about to receive a battery, and the punch was self defense

What if he had whipped out a pistol and blown her head off? No one is going to defend him then, but isn't that self-defense?

To answer that question, no, it isn't. The force used in defending yourself must be reasonable. A full-force sucker punch like that from a man his size to a woman could very well have been deadly. He is lucky that she didn't hit her head on the concrete and die, because then it would have been a murder charge instead of just battery.
 

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He could plead that he thought he was about to receive a battery, and the punch was self defense

What if he had whipped out a pistol and blown her head off? No one is going to defend him then, but isn't that self-defense?

To answer that question, no, it isn't. The force used in defending yourself must be reasonable. A full-force sucker punch like that from a man his size to a woman could very well have been deadly. He is lucky that she didn't hit her head on the concrete and die, because then it would have been a murder charge instead of just battery.
What if she would have whipped out a pistol and blown his head off? He could plead that he didn't know if she were armed or not and quickly reacted to mitigate the potential threat of ANOTHER battery, or worse.
 

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What if she would have whipped out a pistol and blown his head off? He could plead that he didn't know if she were armed or not and quickly reacted to mitigate the potential threat of ANOTHER battery, or worse.
A lot of law is based on the ordinary reasonable person standard. Would an ordinary reasonable person have reasonably believed that he was about to get shot by that woman? If you can convince the jury that the answer is yes, then your guy walks, but I think that is a tough sell.
 

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A lot of law is based on the ordinary reasonable person standard. Would an ordinary reasonable person have reasonably believed that he was about to get shot by that woman? If you can convince the jury that the answer is yes, then your guy walks, but I think that is a tough sell.
I'll be curious to see the final disposition on this from court.
 

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What if she would have whipped out a pistol and blown his head off? He could plead that he didn't know if she were armed or not and quickly reacted to mitigate the potential threat of ANOTHER battery, or worse.
You're a cop, and this is the way you interpret the law? I'm not sure what to say.
 
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