A lack of enough attractive women in a society lead to men not getting along (racism, etc.).

[Listen_to_Olly]

I have received PMs from guys asking what cities are good for men of their race where they might not have to deal with taboos and stigma that comes along with game.

By now, most of you should know that most hot girls go for guys based on social perception that comes with being with them.

Even when race is not involved, hot girls want guys perceived as cool, which varies from place to place. In one place, an overweight dude with a pickup truck is considered hot while in another, that same guy would be lucky to get a hug. This goes for race too, hot girls generally won't date or go for guys from ethnic backgrounds that can hurt their social standing.

Hot girls are rarely racist but they generally act in accordance to their local culture which can be racist.

It's not just racism, its all other stuff.

Misandry and men turning on each other and their gender in general. Why is feminism and social justice warrior sort of stuff not so popular in Miami? Because there are so many attractive women to go around for anyone to take that stuff seriously.

But in actuality, racism has nothing to do with it, it's all about how many hot girls are available.

I have often seen and heard about how minorities do well in Scandinavian countries though I don't know if that is the case anymore with the "refugee" thing getting out of hand there.

The reason is very simple, because on average there are just more good looking women to go around in a place like Norway compared to the US.

Your average Scandinavian man could afford to be lenient if some blonde Scandinavian beauty decides she wants to have a threesome with Harold and Kumar. He wouldn't care as much because there were so many other good looking blonde women around, it isn't going to ruin his day.

Your average American man doesn't have that privilege because in most areas, just finding a fit and decent looking woman can be a struggle. This does vary based on where in America we're talking about, keep reading.

Even in Eastern Europe, women are more open to going for a cool guy of a minority group even though the racism is pretty bad there.

Supply and demand.

Where there is plenty of anyone or anything to go around, we can all be buddy buddy. I believe this is part of the reason why European men don't get so worked up when they see hot white girls dating minorities. European women on average are better looking than American women and most guys of any race who are above average and have some game can get a decent looking girlfriend there.

In the US, there aren't really that many attractive women to go around in most areas.

But this changes based on where in America you're at.

In Miami for example, hot girls sleep with cool guys of all races. I have even known Arab, Indian, and Asian men who were cleaning up in Miami. No one cares, everyone is laid back about it, why? There are a lot of hot girls to go around.

Now take some city where women on average aren't so attractive, that is when things start to get hostile. White guys become a lot more possessive of white women and are forced to use all sorts of power games to make sure these women don't go interracial.

It's not just race, guys turn on each other in general in this situation.

So if you want to avoid it all and just get hot girls, go to a place where there are a ton of hot girls to go around.

 

[dustmuffin]

I have often seen and heard about how minorities do well in Scandinavian countries though I don't know if that is the case anymore with the "refugee" thing getting out of hand there.

The reason is very simple, because on average there are just more good looking women to go around in a place like Norway compared to the US.

Scandinavia is filled with cucks. They are the most feminist area on the planet. Do a little research. I lived there in the 80s and had great success. I dont think I want to live there now becasue of there feminist laws. You are basically under the thumb of women. No ty.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

I have often seen and heard about how minorities do well in Scandinavian countries though I don't know if that is the case anymore with the "refugee" thing getting out of hand there.

The reason is very simple, because on average there are just more good looking women to go around in a place like Norway compared to the US.

Scandinavia is filled with cucks. They are the most feminist area on the planet. Do a little research. I lived there in the 80s and had great success. I dont think I want to live there now becasue of there feminist laws. You are basically under the thumb of women. No ty.

I don't get the hate people on these boards have for Scandinavian men, almost all of the ones I've known who came to the US had women fighting to be with them. Some of the biggest playboys I knew who could get girls based on looks alone were from countries like Sweden. American women are head over heels crazy for tall blonde men, it's arguably the most desirable kind of look for a guy to have in the US.

 

[dustmuffin]

I don't get the hate people on these boards have for Scandinavian men, almost all of the ones I've known who came to the US had women fighting to be with them. Some of the biggest playboys I knew who could get girls based on looks alone were from countries like Sweden. American women are head over heels crazy for tall blonde men, it's arguably the most desirable kind of look for a guy to have in the US.

The difference is that they are here in the US with american women enjoying the novelty of a scandinavian man. In scandinavia they aren't anything special. There are loads of tall blonde guys that kiss the ass of the scandinavian woman.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

The difference is that they are here in the US with american women enjoying the novelty of a scandinavian man. In scandinavia they aren't anything special. There are loads of tall blonde guys that kiss the ass of the scandinavian woman.

you can say the same about Italian men in Italy or American men in America in that regard

but believe me, Scandinavian men slay almost anywhere outside of Scandinavia.

 

[El Payaso]

I don't know if I agree with your assessment. Europe especially Eastern Europe and Scandinavian countries are some of the most racist countries around. Russia and Norway are probably some of the worst to start off with.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

I don't know if I agree with your assessment. Europe especially Eastern Europe and Scandinavian countries are some of the most racist countries around. Russia and Norway are probably some of the worst to start off with.

I actually mentioned this in my post:

Even in Eastern Europe, women are more open to going for a cool guy of a minority group even though the racism is pretty bad there.

You are correct in that these countries have a lot more racism but they also have a lot of attractive women to go around which works out well.

What I mentioned is that it isn't even racism that is the major issue here as minorities, in my opinion, have a far better chance of getting hot white girls in Eastern Europe than the US because there is a higher concentration of hot white girls in some of those countries. Even if the guys are racist, they have an easier time coping with women in their country going interracial as opposed to some parts of the US where women on average aren't so attractive and you have frustrated racist dudes.

I disagree with you about Norway and Scandinavia though, they seem to be open minded.

My point is, it's tough even for most racist guys to get too worked up over a guy from another race they hate getting hot girls of their race when there are plenty of hot and available girls around for them to play with.

 

[El Payaso]

I actually mentioned this in my post:



You are correct in that these countries have a lot more racism but they also have a lot of attractive women to go around which works out well.

What I mentioned is that it isn't even racism that is the major issue here as minorities, in my opinion, have a far better chance of getting hot white girls in Eastern Europe than the US because there is a higher concentration of hot white girls in some of those countries. Even if the guys are racist, they have an easier time coping with women in their country going interracial as opposed to some parts of the US where women on average aren't so attractive and you have frustrated racist dudes.

I disagree with you about Norway and Scandinavia though, they seem to be open minded.

My point is, it's tough even for most racist guys to get too worked up over a guy from another race they hate getting hot girls of their race when there are plenty of hot and available girls around for them to play with.

I don't, man. In NYC, Miami or LA, an Indian dude and a white woman would certainly get less looks than the same pairing in Saint Petersburg or Yekaterinburg. The looks would also be a lot more hostile too.

The USA isn't without it's fair share of racism but I think due to the mixed pot culture, it is a lot more common here and they are more accepting than cultures in Eastern Europe which are predominantly white.

I will agree with your assessment that it might be easier for an Indian man over there because the majority of the women the are white so he's bound to score and if he does, the woman will 9 times out of 10, most likely be white.

Plus some of them might be more attracted to the "exotic" look as opposed to the vanilla look they're more used to.

 

[Urbanyst]

What sucks is a lot of women in the United States have the genetics to be very attractive, but they engage in unhealthy living that makes them fat, ugly and out of shape. Such a waste. I get so angry when I see a woman with a beautiful face, nice skin and good shape, but she is 20 pounds overweight. Come on man..

A lot of women in the U.S. just don't try at all. Its not politically correct to comment or criticize a woman's appearance at all if you are a man. This is not good. We need checks and balances. The two genders are supposed to check each other. Men get checked hard by women and even other men (see how people trash me on this forum for never having a LTR longer than a year. Something only a woman should attack me on) but no one is really checking women anymore. Women are not even allowed to check each other because they get attacked by feminists or the political correctness police.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

Many Polish women also are openly and unapologetically racist in a way which American's would find surprising and unpalatable.

Polish and Eastern European women in general are very candid but here is the way I see it. Eastern Euro women will say racist things and even hold some racist beliefs yet still hook up with minorities, especially if the guy breaks stereotypes.

American women will post status updates on how racism is so wrong and pretend to care a lot about social issues yet a good number, in certain areas (especially liberal areas) will avoid guys of minority groups even when they break stereotypes.

This comic sums it up well

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

I don't, man. In NYC, Miami or LA, an Indian dude and a white woman would certainly get less looks than the same pairing in Saint Petersburg or Yekaterinburg. The looks would also be a lot more hostile too.

The USA isn't without it's fair share of racism but I think due to the mixed pot culture, it is a lot more common here and they are more accepting than cultures in Eastern Europe which are predominantly white.

I will agree with your assessment that it might be easier for an Indian man over there because the majority of the women the are white so he's bound to score and if he does, the woman will 9 times out of 10, most likely be white.

Plus some of them might be more attracted to the "exotic" look as opposed to the vanilla look they're more used to.

Russians might be hateful towards blacks (and even then there are exceptions) but a few Indian and Asian guys I knew that went there had a nice time.

As for NYC, I live here and in most parts of the city, a brown guy with a good looking white girl will definitely turn heads and attract hostility. Do not go to Long Island or Staten Island if you're in this sort of a pairing, guys will try to fight you for it.

In Manhattan I see it being less of an issue but that goes back to the point of my thread, it's because the best looking women of NYC live in Manhattan so men there do not feel so hostile if a few decide to go for minorities. It really has nothing to do with racism though, it has to do with supply and demand.

More hot white girls to go around = guys being okay with a few dating minorities

Less hot white girls to go around = Even if it is a liberal area, guys being angry if even a couple go interracial

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

What sucks is a lot of women in the United States have the genetics to be very attractive, but they engage in unhealthy living that makes them fat, ugly and out of shape. Such a waste. I get so angry when I see a woman with a beautiful face, nice skin and good shape, but she is 20 pounds overweight. Come on man..

A lot of women in the U.S. just don't try at all. Its not politically correct to comment or criticize a woman's appearance at all if you are a man. This is not good. We need checks and balances. The two genders are supposed to check each other. Men get checked hard by women and even other men (see how people trash me on this forum for never having a LTR longer than a year. Something only a woman should attack me on) but no one is really checking women anymore. Women are not even allowed to check each other because they get attacked by feminists or the political correctness police.

The reason for this once again goes back to my OP about feminism, it thrives in cities where women on average aren't so attractive.

When there are very few attractive women to go around, the very few make the rules and they will rig the game in favor of women. All of this leads to women getting more leeway in what they can get away with. Even if a girl who is a fit 8 eats unhealthy and turns into a chubby 6, in a city of mainly 4s and 5s, she still has a ton of options with guys above her league.

Those guys will buy her free stuff and be her loyal white knights, this leads to women as a whole caring less about their looks, it's because thirsty guys ruin it. Why should the woman care that much for her appearance when she has a lot of options as a chubby 6? You can't check any woman because now her army of white knights and female friends will turn on you and try to ruin you.

Now in a city like Miami or Minneapolis, where a good number of women are fit and good looking, the same woman will feel that urgency to better her looks but most cities aren't Miami.

 

[Urbanyst]

Russians might be hateful towards blacks (and even then there are exceptions) but a few Indian and Asian guys I knew that went there had a nice time.

As for NYC, I live here and in most parts of the city, a brown guy with a good looking white girl will definitely turn heads and attract hostility. Do not go to Long Island or Staten Island if you're in this sort of a pairing, guys will try to fight you for it.

In Manhattan I see it being less of an issue but that goes back to the point of my thread, it's because the best looking women of NYC live in Manhattan so men there do not feel so hostile if a few decide to go for minorities. It really has nothing to do with racism though, it has to do with supply and demand.

More hot white girls to go around = guys being okay with a few dating minorities

Less hot white girls to go around = Even if it is a liberal area, guys being angry if even a couple go interracial

Why does seeing a hot girl with a minority upset these losers and why does any man feel entitled to a hot white girl?

Do these guys believe the girl would be with him if it wasn't for the minority guy?. Low value men who lack abundance are competitive over women. These guys need to work on themselves first. Chances are, if she wasn't with a minority, she still wouldn't be with the dude who wants to fight an minority guy over her.

The reason for this once again goes back to my OP about feminism, it thrives in cities where women on average aren't so attractive.

When there are very few attractive women to go around, the very few make the rules and they will rig the game in favor of women. All of this leads to women getting more leeway in what they can get away with. Even if a girl who is a fit 8 eats unhealthy and turns into a chubby 6, in a city of mainly 4s and 5s, she still has a ton of options with guys above her league.

Those guys will buy her free stuff and be her loyal white knights, this leads to women as a whole caring less about their looks, it's because thirsty guys ruin it. Why should the woman care that much for her appearance when she has a lot of options as a chubby 6? You can't check any woman because now her army of white knights and female friends will turn on you and try to ruin you.

Now in a city like Miami or Minneapolis, where a good number of women are fit and good looking, the same woman will feel that urgency to better her looks but most cities aren't Miami.

I understand all that, but it still seems stupid to limit yourself.

If you have the genetics to be a 9, why allow yourself to be a 7? Sure, you might still have lots of options, but the woman who allows yourself to be a 9 will still beat you out.

And since women have a limited time span to be attractive, it makes even less sense to ruin your looks when you're young and have the most power over men.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

Why does seeing a hot girl with a minority upset these losers and why does any man feel entitled to a hot white girl?

Do these guys believe the girl would be with him if it wasn't for the minority guy?. Low value men who lack abundance are competitive over women. These guys need to work on themselves first. Chances are, if she wasn't with a minority, she still wouldn't be with the dude who wants to fight an minority guy over her.

I already explained it on this thread as to why.

It is a big issue in areas where there aren't a lot of hot girls to go around in the first place, seeing the few that are there go for minorities adds fuel to the fire. Most of these guys are already frustrated, mentally degrading away due to lack of success with women, and then on top of that they see the kind of men they hate with the few hot girls around and it drives them crazy. It is hate coupled in with a lack of an abundance mentality.

Doesn't even have to be a couple that is local to the area, it can be visitors. One of my friends was a darker skinned Arab dude dating a beautiful Dutch blonde. The two stopped for gas at some small Pennsylvania city, had people stare at them and a couple of guys starting shouting some racist things right then and there, they had to bail fast!

On the other hand, in parts of Manhattan and in places like Miami, you have white guys that are being a wingman or helping guys of minority groups meet hot girls. Why? Because there are so many hot girls to go around.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

I understand all that, but it still seems stupid to limit yourself.

If you have the genetics to be a 9, why allow yourself to be a 7? Sure, you might still have lots of options, but the woman who allows yourself to be a 9 will still beat you out.

And since women have a limited time span to be attractive, it makes even less sense to ruin your looks when you're young and have the most power over men.

Why bother putting in the time to be a 9 when in being a 7, you'll likely get treated just as well as a 9 in an area where even 7s are a commodity?

 

[Von]

I remember this survey on "interracial" dating.

It asked girls if they would date outside culture.

Western: 70% said yes
Asians (jap): 50% yes
Chinese: 45%
African: 36%
Arabs: 30%
Latina: 20%
Indian: 17%
Russian/scandinavian: 7%

Polish/russian culture are the most closed minded people I meet.
Having lived in Japan, they xenophobic like hell especially the guy. Girls will jump at you, cause "outsider: are exotic but act like man and knight (we good to them), we freedom for many"

In cities you'll have more chance at interdating cause the numbers are on your side. However, you'll meet more closed minded people.

In rural areas, diversity is rare or unique. Minorities tend to blend and assimilated faster (all rural Minorities I know date the local white girl, speak the local language) etc.

But in rural areas, you do have the "guys" of the village who view "outsider" has women thief (outsider: white city guy)

The higher you are in social hierarchy the more mobile you are and less bariers you have.

Life also favour the Bold, those who keep fighting until they win (yes)

University cities offer the best in term of quality/opportunity/quantity/diversity

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

Survey and real life mean different things, tons of Indian and Arab chicks I seen in NYC are more than ready to go interracial.

As for Polish and Russian chicks, funny the survey says that, many of the hot ones I have seen and known go interracial to some degree.

It's just one survey, we have to get more info than just that.