Every Woman Left On The Market Is Fvcked Up

[Tenacity]

Dude, you boned 200+ women since 2012/2013? That is a hell of a source of self esteem... To know that you have slayed many different variations of females in different situations.

Yes, and if you count date/kissed only the number goes way up.

March of 2010 is when I had fixed my looks and finances (and personality) to the point of being seen as consistenly attractive.

Since then it's been countless dates, kiss closes, ONS, and short term flings.

It's why after all of that activity I form my conclusions. It's not like I dated 20 chicks and came to these conclusions.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Regardless of family background and other traits. Self-serving as it might be, post-wall women's warnings about the nature of the youngest (hottest) women is not totally off base.

What family background screening does is screen out the most severe mental illnesses, but does not screen for the malleable, flighty and carnal human nature when it has unlimited power in the market.

And they only enjoy this kind of power because men have lost near all their stoic traits.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

And they only enjoy this kind of power because men have lost near all their stoic traits.

What can man do about it?

 

[Desdinova]

Every woman on this market will have one or MORE of these issues above

Every woman over age 23 will have these issues.

I believe that "quality/good women" are for the most part NOT on the market anymore,

You're only going to find decent quality women in the 18-23 age bracket, and even those are scarce. Almost all women over age 23 are damaged goods. They've been fvcked by too many guys, they have a man at the top of their high score list, and they are trying to find another man to take his spot which never happens.

Unless she's lived an incredibly sheltered life, women over age 23 are only useful as cvm dumpsters.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

A lot of people are saying a lot of different things. And all of you who say these things live in different places. This shows that this issue is provincial and varies in degrees by where you are.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

What can man do about it?

Well, I think the last thing you want to do is adapt yourself to the current conditions. Better to develop yourself, fortress-like, and then you won't be so vulnerable to today's 'barbarism'. The essence of development, in this context, would be to acquire rational control over your passions where you are no longer a slave to them. And that is not repression but restraint.

Rational control is not ideological. You can always tell an ideology is at play where reason becomes subservient to some ruling passion such as the lust for power, or lust for sex.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

A lot of people are saying a lot of different things. And all of you who say these things live in different places. This shows that this issue is provincial and varies in degrees by where you are.

The last thing you want to be is 'provincial'.

 

[The Duke]

So if you are a generous dude that predatory women use as a "sugar daddy", you are the same as them?
Depends, if money is your primary drawing card to get attractive women, then yes you are as much of a user as they are. Its the equivalent of a woman only having sechsuality as her drawing card. The man uses the woman for her sechsuality, the woman uses the man for his money. The long term result will be failure. Both parties are in it for the wrong reasons.

Or your saying they may be interested in your money but not attracted to your person, but would be more attracted
to someone of a persona as themselves, as in a man who uses or cheats on women, or a street hustler that cons people?

 

[The Duke]

Interesting stats

There were also several years I went thru that all I required out of a female was to be attractive and a good time. Many of those women were nothing more than just that so it definitely skews those numbers. I simply didn't require much back then.

 

[thatfeel]

I live right by one of the most expensive colleges in the USA--which is right by the local nightlife. Vast majority of the students are female; most of them have fakes. So it's not unusual for me to run into 18 and 19 y/o's on a night out.

I cast a wide net--what some guys here would term 'spam approach'--so I interface with a wide variety of females--from the bar stars, to the mega slvts, to the college athletes who just go out socially, to the foreign exchange students, to the homesick alcoholic who's about to drop out next semester, to the bookworm who's roommates drag her out for drinks on the last night of the semester, to the crazy druggy chick who drops acid every weekend.

...snip...

This post was just pure poetry. One of the many reasons I stick around on SS.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Tenacity, you've come a long way my friend. And what you accomplished so far will be nothing in relation to what you will accomplish. You are greater than most so you will catch much heat with your resume when put forth. Don't lead with your accomplishment foot as that will keep men on guard and women with ulterior motives. Exemplify but don't delineate. Rise others and you will build a loyal team at your beck and call. Power is in your support not individual achievements. Keep remaining true to yourself and striving for the higher ideals to be better.

I'm in my early 40s. I have always been good with women. But it has never been easier to meet "quality" women that fit my standards than it is today. I owe this to the focus in all areas of my life, not just looks, money, status.

 

[Bingo-Player]

So I'm hoping this sparks a good discussion here with folks on the forum. I don't make threads that much but I wanted to put most of my thoughts here in a new thread, thoughts of which I have shared in various posts on other threads.

I believe that "quality/good women" are for the most part NOT on the market anymore, leaving the remaining women on the market the fvcked up ones who have at least one major issue with her that will make being with them in a relationship a "challenge". Note, I say "challenge", which doesn't mean it's impossible, but it's just that the chick is going to be a little bit of a pain in the a.ss (at times) to deal with.

These issues include:

- Having a kid or kids from other guys. Lord help you if you are dating a black woman with kid(s) because at least 75% of the time the kid(s) will be from a Ray Ray or Pookie type of guy. You know the guy with 5 felonies, from 5 different counties, who has been locked up in 5 different prisons? Yes, that guy, and when he gets out of jail he might call and leave you a voicemail like this THUG did to Tenacity last year: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/tenacity-gets-threatened-by-a-thug-listen-lol.233962/

- Having bad finances. This means you meet her Monday, fvck her by Thursday, and by next Monday she's already begging you for money because her car is about to be towed, the lights are about to be cut off, or she's behind 2 months on rent and about to be kicked out. So because you are "her man", she wants you to help her get stable because you know, that's what a "real man" would do.

- Having weight issues. Yes, there's a McDonalds on every corner but today there's damn near a gym on every corner as well. Hundreds of diet plans, tons of gyms, etc., there's no god damn reason for a girl to be extremely overweight like 200lbs or something. Yes, I like THICK girls, but not BBW girls. There's a difference!

- Some sort of personality/attitude problem. So this includes a laundry list of things, the girl could have a mental disorder (bipolar), she could be flakey as hell, she could be lukewarm, she could display mixed signals, she could be a gold-digger, she could be high maintenance, she could be bougie as hell, she could deliberately withhold sex, she could be controlling, she might have gotten divorced before and carries baggage from that, she might have daddy/mommy/family issues and carries baggage from that, etc., etc.

Every woman on this market will have one or MORE of these issues above. The Manosphere tells guys to NEXT, NEXT, and NEXT when they run into one of these issues, but my question is.........NEXT TO WHAT? NEXT TO WHO?

Where the fvck are you going to go lol? If you NEXT the chick with weight issues you will run into one with bad finances, if you next the one with bad finances you will run into one with personality/attitude issues.......every chick you deal with will have at least ONE major issue that makes being with her "a challenge".

What do you guys think of my analysis? My strategy going forward is to filter off the chicks with weight issues, kids, and bad finances, to just DEAL with the chicks with the personality/attitude problems. Yes, they annoy the fvck out of me with the personality/attitude related shyt, but where else am I going to go? That's the BEST it's going to get.

i agree

infact im experiencing this as we speak because im getting to an age where i am about ready to find "my girl" and start planning for the future

but the problem is i cant find one that i would want to build a future with

either the body count is too high , she has a sh1t job , no ambition , no money , some other guys kid or any list of other issues

i simply CANT settle for this

now i am left with a dilemma i can either accept this and try to work with what ive got , i can keep nexting for another 5 years in the hope il find the needle in the haystack

OR do i settle for a girl below my market value in looks in the hope i can negate some of the social issues you find with girls in your own value

 

[Weaver]

I have been dating/fvcking countless women. I know it's well over 200 since 2012/2013.

I'm not that knowledgeable on the female anatomy lol, but I believe the babies come out of a different hole down there?

From "How to talk to your child about sex (age 5)" by Mary VanClay:
"Some children who really want more details may be ready to hear, 'Strong muscles in my tummy will push the baby down my vagina, and out from between my legs.'"

 

[andy87]

Yes, and if you count date/kissed only the number goes way up.

March of 2010 is when I had fixed my looks and finances (and personality) to the point of being seen as consistenly attractive.

Since then it's been countless dates, kiss closes, ONS, and short term flings.

It's why after all of that activity I form my conclusions. It's not like I dated 20 chicks and came to these conclusions.

Been following this thread, what did you do to fix your looks have surgery, go to the gym? What made u become more attractive to women?

 

[Tenacity]

Been following this thread, what did you do to fix your looks have surgery, go to the gym? What made u become more attractive to women?

I added hazel contacts, did some skin conditioning work, better clothes, found the right cologne, and added a six pack. You've seen my pics on here right?

So, let me get this straight.

You plate 200 women in 3 years. And not one of them is the girl you need.

Ever considered that what you need might be a counselor, not a woman?

Just saying.

I haven't had anything like that amount, and I've found quite a few girls that would be worthy of a more serious relationship, if I were in that place.

I really do think the problem is you.

I would really love to know what I'm doing that's causing this. I'm serious. I'm not bickering or anything, I'm constantly re-evaluating myself and I'm not seeing how I'm causing these issues with how a woman will have personality/attitude problems. She's been high maintenance/self-centered for example for 5 years, how am I causing her to be like that?

Every woman over age 23 will have these issues. Unless she's lived an incredibly sheltered life, women over age 23 are only useful as cvm dumpsters.

This line of thought is pretty much my analysis as WELL, but some guys are saying this isn't the case, and I'm causing the problems (which means I still have major issues to fix). I'm trying to figure out WHICH one is it? Either this is a market problem or I have MAJOR issues that's causing this that I'm extremely unaware of.

Tenacity, you've come a long way my friend. And what you accomplished so far will be nothing in relation to what you will accomplish. You are greater than most so you will catch much heat with your resume when put forth. Don't lead with your accomplishment foot as that will keep men on guard and women with ulterior motives. Exemplify but don't delineate. Rise others and you will build a loyal team at your beck and call. Power is in your support not individual achievements. Keep remaining true to yourself and striving for the higher ideals to be better.

I'm in my early 40s. I have always been good with women. But it has never been easier to meet "quality" women that fit my standards than it is today. I owe this to the focus in all areas of my life, not just looks, money, status.

Thanks for those kinds words man. What state are you in? When you say you meet quality constantly, are you saying you meet women that:

- Have no kids
- No weight issues/are HB6-HB9
- No finance issues
- And NONE of the personality/attitude issues I listed in the original post

Where are you meeting these people at? Of all of the women I've dated, not ONE was without at least one of these issues.............not ONE. I'm not making this up.

 

[kenpiffyjr]

@Tenacity:

What's your frame with females?

 

[kenpiffyjr]

I ask this because if you honestly believe your frame is A1 that allows women to be submissive, you just reached the area that we all do at some point and realize women are not these Soul Mate creatures. That's what I think it is. I think you might be looking for Nia Long in Love Jones where that female just doesn't exist. You have to understand and accept that or you'll be stuck where you are at in your head with females forever

 

[BeExcellent]

@Tenacity you have come a long way just in the year I've hung around here. Because of your courage to be so transparent your progress is readily available to observe & I think many here see it and gain benefit from observing your experience.

The post that @fastlife wrote is quite true. It's basically about women's social mores (and the malleability thereof) and how to "see" what is really going on. We would see it constantly at the nightclub. The "quality" good girl teacher or whatever by day & something more racy at night.

I think you are seeing the same thing just from a different angle. The PHD dating Ray Ray is not that different from the sheltered "good girl" doing relative dumpster diving for ONS.

Some women are rescuer types & some date down. This has to do with self esteem issues usually. Sheltered girls get curious sometimes. These behaviors occur most frequently in the 21-25 age range based on my own observations in the nightclub business.

But many women will come back to the core values they were raised with after an experimental phase. Whether that is acceptable or not a man will have to decide for himself.

The quality women have standards to come back to and will go on to lead more stable lives than the hot messes out there.

By "come to you" means women will make their interest known in subtle ways. You are getting into better social environs. Keep observing people. You will keep growing & you'll get to the sort of options that you are after. They will still have imperfections, but ones you can deal with.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

What state are you in? When you say you meet quality constantly, are you saying you meet women that:

- Have no kids
- No weight issues/are HB6-HB9
- No finance issues
- And NONE of the personality/attitude issues I listed in the original post

Where are you meeting these people at? Of all of the women I've dated, not ONE was without at least one of these issues.............not ONE. I'm not making this up.

NY. All the women I meet don't have these issues, mostly through OLD.

I vet their profiles:

No kids;
HB 7-9;
Good income (You can vet income in Match); and
Attitude: Well you don't know until you speak with/meet them.

In addition to your criteria above, I look for:

Strong familial/conservative values;
Past relations/history (A girl will be more than willing to divulge if you give the guise of non-judgment);
Class;
Well mannered;
Intelligent enough; and
Complementary to my passions/ambitions.

I don't meet women if they don't hold my prerequisites (as far I can see through the vetting process). Remember, if you are meeting women who are overweight and with kids, the onus falls upon you, as you date them knowing these facts. Instead, vet and NEXT before you meet. Why waste time?

If this leaves you with zero women, then I'd be more than interested to see your dating profile, to ascertain the weaknesses therein.

 

[Poon King]

Here is what most men are either too weak or stupid to understand:

"The market" is basically giving men the middle finger. Instead of sport f*cking "the market" and moving on with their day.. men are choosing instead to whine, b!tch, cry and moan over it. Why? Because Disney movies promised them a secure co-dependent relationship with some fantasy woman that doesn't exist in 2017.

You think the market will improve if you whine enough about it?

Guess what gentlemen? There is more to life than women and settling into some gay co-dependent relationship. The market is trying to tell you this by giving you the middle finger EVERY DAY you try to make one of these dumb LTR's "work out".

When will you get it? WHEN?