Every Woman Left On The Market Is Fvcked Up

[Tenacity]

So I'm hoping this sparks a good discussion here with folks on the forum. I don't make threads that much but I wanted to put most of my thoughts here in a new thread, thoughts of which I have shared in various posts on other threads.

I believe that "quality/good women" are for the most part NOT on the market anymore, leaving the remaining women on the market the fvcked up ones who have at least one major issue with her that will make being with them in a relationship a "challenge". Note, I say "challenge", which doesn't mean it's impossible, but it's just that the chick is going to be a little bit of a pain in the a.ss (at times) to deal with.

These issues include:

- Having a kid or kids from other guys. Lord help you if you are dating a black woman with kid(s) because at least 75% of the time the kid(s) will be from a Ray Ray or Pookie type of guy. You know the guy with 5 felonies, from 5 different counties, who has been locked up in 5 different prisons? Yes, that guy, and when he gets out of jail he might call and leave you a voicemail like this THUG did to Tenacity last year: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/tenacity-gets-threatened-by-a-thug-listen-lol.233962/

- Having bad finances. This means you meet her Monday, fvck her by Thursday, and by next Monday she's already begging you for money because her car is about to be towed, the lights are about to be cut off, or she's behind 2 months on rent and about to be kicked out. So because you are "her man", she wants you to help her get stable because you know, that's what a "real man" would do.

- Having weight issues. Yes, there's a McDonalds on every corner but today there's damn near a gym on every corner as well. Hundreds of diet plans, tons of gyms, etc., there's no god damn reason for a girl to be extremely overweight like 200lbs or something. Yes, I like THICK girls, but not BBW girls. There's a difference!

- Some sort of personality/attitude problem. So this includes a laundry list of things, the girl could have a mental disorder (bipolar), she could be flakey as hell, she could be lukewarm, she could display mixed signals, she could be a gold-digger, she could be high maintenance, she could be bougie as hell, she could deliberately withhold sex, she could be controlling, she might have gotten divorced before and carries baggage from that, she might have daddy/mommy/family issues and carries baggage from that, etc., etc.

Every woman on this market will have one or MORE of these issues above. The Manosphere tells guys to NEXT, NEXT, and NEXT when they run into one of these issues, but my question is.........NEXT TO WHAT? NEXT TO WHO?

Where the fvck are you going to go lol? If you NEXT the chick with weight issues you will run into one with bad finances, if you next the one with bad finances you will run into one with personality/attitude issues.......every chick you deal with will have at least ONE major issue that makes being with her "a challenge".

What do you guys think of my analysis? My strategy going forward is to filter off the chicks with weight issues, kids, and bad finances, to just DEAL with the chicks with the personality/attitude problems. Yes, they annoy the fvck out of me with the personality/attitude related shyt, but where else am I going to go? That's the BEST it's going to get.

 

[bigneil]

These issues include:

- Having a kid or kids from other guys. - no kids
- Having bad finances. - no debt
- Having weight issues. - definitely skinny
- Some sort of personality/attitude problem. - sweetheart

Every woman on this market will have one or MORE of these issues above. - FALSE

I have a counterexample. They are rare and you better have your sh!t together when you meet her.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Almost every one. Your job is to find the needle in the haystack. Accept it and play the numbers.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I'd like to add... For anyone reading this, are you the man who is WORTHY of an exceptional woman, that 1 in 50 who is worth a man's time? We need to make sure that we are exceptional ourselves before we can even hope to find a woman who is that rare exception.

Become worthy (develop yourself as a dominant, strong man), and she will come to you.

 

[Tenacity]

Become worthy (develop yourself as a dominant, strong man), and she will come to you.

Elaborate on this more please, because Taiyuu_Otoko said this same thing to me before, but when I asked him to elaborate on this he got ticked off and blocked me lol.

- As you know, the vast majority of the time, it's the man that initiates the communication with the woman. So when you say she will come to ME, what do you mean specifically? Does this mean I will be at a UFC event with a couple of folks sitting in 5th row, and she will walk up to me and say, "Tenacity, HERE I AM, the quality woman you have been seeking!"

- Or, are you meaning to say that if I continue to work on myself and try to link up with exclusive networks of people who are a part of particular exclusive "clubs", that I have a higher chance of finding the higher quality woman? IF this is what you mean, let me ask you a question based on my current status.

* My looks are the best they have been, 7 - 8 out of 10
* I'm at a six figure income
* I'm a part of a ton of Professional Associations, from MBA associations, BBB, Chamber of Commerce, etc
* I attend exclusive parties, networks, etc., with higher net worth folks all the time

And I STILL find the same type of women with the same type of issues. Yes, this even includes the black women with the thug baby daddies. I can't tell you how many black women I've dated with Master's Degrees or who are going after PhDs, who have a kid or two by Ray Ray and Pookie.

So can you elaborate more on what you mean here?

 

[AttackFormation]

You deal with all of this and make efforts specifically on how to pretty much be an entertainer for women when you game them up, for what? ultimately its just to get our d1cks wet because were males. Lol. Its funny in an absurd way when you take a big step back and look at it, dont you think? What else occupies so much of our mental and physical efforts. I aint advocating mgtow, this just makes me smile/chuckle, yknow?

 

[Poon King]

Have you considered the idea that you are just as low quality and "f*cked up" as the women you are whining about?

 

[Bible_Belt]

If you go hang out with one of the more cultish religions, they'll pretty much offer you one of their teenage virgins. That's how they recruit. Go wave a little money in their face and mention you're in the market to settle down, pop out a bunch of kids, and come give the church money every week. I know a guy who is my age, and a big fat blowhard jackass. He just married a Pentecostal girl, tiny, pretty thing. They had to put off the wedding until she graduated high school.

Your problems with black women are better stated as problems with black American women. Certainly there are many college students somewhere near you, and among them will be some international students. Generally, they come from rich families, simply by being able to afford it here. I married one a long time ago. Her mom had skin as black as anyone's and would rip on black American culture constantly. If you don't travel outside the US, at least date some foreign women who happen to be here. It will give you a better perspective.

 

[Red Legg]

I disagree. EVERY woman has something wrong with them,nobody is perfect,it all comes down to finding the one you WANT to put up with.

 

[Billtx49]

I disagree. EVERY woman has something wrong with them,nobody is perfect,it all comes down to finding the one you WANT to put up with.

Yes, it all boils down to the percentage of the good qualities in a woman vs. the bad ones, and what each man is willing to do.
I aim for 75% good or higher.

 

[bigneil]

Almost every one. Your job is to find the needle in the haystack. Accept it and play the numbers.

That's why, if you find one, you might indeed consider marrying her. Consider.

 

[logicallefty]

Almost every one. Your job is to find the needle in the haystack. Accept it and play the numbers.

I agree with this theory only my view is a bit more extreme. Not looking for a needle in a haystack, you are looking for a marble in the bottom of the ocean. There are for sure good women out there, but in the time you have on this Earth chances are you aren't going to find one. Now if we humans lived for 10,000 years then I'd say you got a lot better chance.

 

[highSpeed]

So I'm hoping this sparks a good discussion here with folks on the forum. I don't make threads that much but I wanted to put most of my thoughts here in a new thread, thoughts of which I have shared in various posts on other threads.

I believe that "quality/good women" are for the most part NOT on the market anymore, leaving the remaining women on the market the fvcked up ones who have at least one major issue with her that will make being with them in a relationship a "challenge". Note, I say "challenge", which doesn't mean it's impossible, but it's just that the chick is going to be a little bit of a pain in the a.ss (at times) to deal with.

These issues include:

- Having a kid or kids from other guys. Lord help you if you are dating a black woman with kid(s) because at least 75% of the time the kid(s) will be from a Ray Ray or Pookie type of guy. You know the guy with 5 felonies, from 5 different counties, who has been locked up in 5 different prisons? Yes, that guy, and when he gets out of jail he might call and leave you a voicemail like this THUG did to Tenacity last year: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/tenacity-gets-threatened-by-a-thug-listen-lol.233962/

- Having bad finances. This means you meet her Monday, fvck her by Thursday, and by next Monday she's already begging you for money because her car is about to be towed, the lights are about to be cut off, or she's behind 2 months on rent and about to be kicked out. So because you are "her man", she wants you to help her get stable because you know, that's what a "real man" would do.

- Having weight issues. Yes, there's a McDonalds on every corner but today there's damn near a gym on every corner as well. Hundreds of diet plans, tons of gyms, etc., there's no god damn reason for a girl to be extremely overweight like 200lbs or something. Yes, I like THICK girls, but not BBW girls. There's a difference!

- Some sort of personality/attitude problem. So this includes a laundry list of things, the girl could have a mental disorder (bipolar), she could be flakey as hell, she could be lukewarm, she could display mixed signals, she could be a gold-digger, she could be high maintenance, she could be bougie as hell, she could deliberately withhold sex, she could be controlling, she might have gotten divorced before and carries baggage from that, she might have daddy/mommy/family issues and carries baggage from that, etc., etc.

Every woman on this market will have one or MORE of these issues above. The Manosphere tells guys to NEXT, NEXT, and NEXT when they run into one of these issues, but my question is.........NEXT TO WHAT? NEXT TO WHO?

Where the fvck are you going to go lol? If you NEXT the chick with weight issues you will run into one with bad finances, if you next the one with bad finances you will run into one with personality/attitude issues.......every chick you deal with will have at least ONE major issue that makes being with her "a challenge".

What do you guys think of my analysis? My strategy going forward is to filter off the chicks with weight issues, kids, and bad finances, to just DEAL with the chicks with the personality/attitude problems. Yes, they annoy the fvck out of me with the personality/attitude related shyt, but where else am I going to go? That's the BEST it's going to get.

The good women are not on the market and if they are, they are not on the market for very long. It is highly unlikely you're going to run into the needle in the haystack. If you approach it with that mindset, dealing with women gets much easier.

 

[Ratiocinative]

I do think society has been going downhill these days, but even so, the number of people of a given quality decreases exponentially as quality increases. To give a concrete example. Probably Something like 60% of guys can bench 200, 40% 250, and 10% 300, 2% 350. Bell curve distribution.

I just made those numbers up, but you get the idea. If you want a high quality woman you're going to have to meet a lot of bad ones in the process. Hanging out with quality people can increase your odds of meeting a quality woman alot, instead of 2-3 out of 100, maybe 2-3 out of 20. Better but still a lot you won't like.

Again, I'm just making up numbers, but the point is that you have to make up the difference somewhere. Either you have to meet more women or lower your standards a little bit. You can't expect to meet the perfect woman you want if you're not out meeting a lot of women.

 

[The Duke]

It took me raising my standards and going without before I found a woman worth keeping. And now I have a really good one.

-Women worth having are going to want relationships and eventually want marriage.
-I rank high in all the categories that matter to women, however perfect in none and still struggle to get what I want.
-I’d label only 5 of the 50 women I’ve been with as “quality”. And only 2 of those were marriage material. The vast majority are worth nothing more than sechs and bring little to the table.
-I’ve never been with anything less than an HB7.

Keep in mind that no one is perfect. You have to take the good with the bad. Girls that are strong/independent will lack some emotion. But, they will also be more rational and less drama. Some of the more emotional tend to be needy and insecure but those types leave no doubt they are totally into you all the time. They will always need you. So figure out what you need and what you can/can’t deal with and when it presents itself, be ready to move forward.

Another thing to think about are what personal/relationship skills do you bring to the table? If you can’t keep your cool on this forum, then don’t get mad when all you can get is women that are a bunch of drama. If you are selfish, and don’t care about seeing issues from another person’s perspective, then don’t get mad when you get an entitled woman who throws a fit when she doesn’t get her way.

I’ve always believed birds of a feather flock together. You attract what you are.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It took me raising my standards and going without before I found a woman worth keeping. And now I have a really good one.

-Women worth having are going to want relationships and eventually want marriage.
-I rank high in all the categories that matter to women, however perfect in none and still struggle to get what I want.
-I’d label only 5 of the 50 women I’ve been with as “quality”. And only 2 of those were marriage material. The vast majority are worth nothing more than sechs and bring little to the table.
-I’ve never been with anything less than an HB7.

Keep in mind that no one is perfect. You have to take the good with the bad. Girls that are strong/independent will lack some emotion. But, they will also be more rational and less drama. Some of the more emotional tend to be needy and insecure but those types leave no doubt they are totally into you all the time. They will always need you. So figure out what you need and what you can/can’t deal with and when it presents itself, be ready to move forward.

Another thing to think about are what personal/relationship skills do you bring to the table? If you can’t keep your cool on this forum, then don’t get mad when all you can get is women that are a bunch of drama. If you are selfish, and don’t care about seeing issues from another person’s perspective, then don’t get mad when you get an entitled woman who throws a fit when she doesn’t get her way.

I’ve always believed birds of a feather flock together. You attract what you are.

So if you are a generous dude that predatory women use as a "sugar daddy", you are the same as them?

Or your saying they may be interested in your money but not attracted to your person, but would be more attracted
to someone of a persona as themselves, as in a man who uses or cheats on women, or a street hustler that cons people?

 

[El Payaso]

Or just f*ck 'em and dip.

 

[WitnessGR]

I generally agree that most woman worth having are already had, however there can be some gems.There are transfer periods where some women become available although you must be in top form ready to be called upon at any moment. The transfer window is somewhat rare, because women who practice hypergamy, generally have someone lined up before they make the break.

Every high quality women I have met the past 5 years were already in a relationship at the time I met them. I had to do the fvcked up thing and seduce a Monica from her bf where they were having problems. What are you gonna do? I had perfect chemistry with her. So that's your one option. To find a high quality woman and seduce her with no remorse. Otherwise, take a number, wait, or whatever.

I will seduce women regardless of status, I entertain all options. The key with these, however is that you must do it in a way that you are committing few resources (time,money,attention,etc). Treat them as a plate, and merely present yourself as better option, best option.

 

[wifehunter]

Nah man, there's girls just coming on to the market daily!!!

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

How ironic that the poster than has been moaning, groaning, and blaming and who is contentious, uncompromising, and devoid of quality himself is complaining that there are no quality women left! LOL.

she could be flakey as hell, she could be lukewarm, she could display mixed signals,

Hint Tenacity: A few of the women who you describe above could be of higher quality, but are "flakey," "lukewarm," and give you "mixed signals," as you don't command enough quality within yourself to merit their deference to you.