So You're MGTOW/Red Pill.......What's NEXT?

[Poon King]

In other words, be a sheep........don't have a mind of your own.......and just accept whatever the fvck someone tells you as "the answers" even if they don't add up to you. Because according to the logic of Poon King/PlayHerMan/The Dude Who Has Already Been Banned Here, if you asked a question, you no longer reserve the right to question any answers you get.

- So for example, when you go to your Insurance Agent and ask a question on Term Life Insurance, but the idiot starts trying to sell you Whole Life Insurance (which you do not fvcking need, costs 10 times more, and makes the agent 10 times more commission)....understand you no longer reserve the right to question the answers/advice you are getting because you asked a question.

You guys got that? Even though you get bad advice thrown your way, you are shyt out of luck on questioning/challenging the advice because you should not have asked a fvcking question. Now somebody make THAT make sense.

Guess what? There is a big difference between questioning something that doesn't add up to you and arguing about something because it doesn't make you feel good. You do the latter more than the former.

And that's the difference between ME and YOU. This is a male self-improvement website. Guys should be coming on here to list issues they are going through or WENT through, detail how you are dealing with them/dealt with them, so other guys watching can obtain information on how to get through the same shyt.

- If a guy is struggling with his career or financial situation, Tenacity's story/perspective can help because I've been there, done that, and can offer real world advice.

- If a guy is struggling with anger issues, Tenacity's story/perspective can help because I've been there, done that, and can offer real world advice.

- If a guy is struggling with his fitness situation, Tenacity's story/perspective can help because I've been there, done that, and can offer real world advice.

- If a guy is struggling with coming from a dysfunctional family, Tenacity's story/perspective can help because I've been there, done that, and can offer real world advice.

That's what the fvck this website is supposed to be about.......it's supposed to be about REAL guys sharing their REAL life experiences, to come together and help each other through challenges.

But that's not what YOU are here for Poon King/PlayHerMan. You are here to spit out the same "spin plates forever" bullshyt to get likes. You aren't here to self-improve shyt, you are here to troll and get pseudo-internet fame.You were BANNED before. If you were as Alpha as the fvck you claim to be, why the fvck did you come back to a place that BANNED your sorry a.ss? That's what I want to know......

For example, I was banned off the City Data Forums because the Moderators deemed my views on personal finance, politics, and women to be "too extreme". But did the fvck I go back there, with a new name, still posting content? Fvck no!

You are not the authority on "what this site is supposed to be".

Its a site for men to talk about game and other things. Men can choose what they want to talk about. On several occasions you called me "the best poster on SoSuave pound for pound". This continued until I hurt your "feelings" at some point. Then you turned to the other extreme of hating my guts.

This is how I know you are someone who cares more about emotions than facts. You listen to the messenger until the messenger offends you. So how can you possibly learn anything useful if you filter everything through your emotions?

The reason you keep coming back to post the same non-sense and dumb questions over and over is because you know you have been told the truth, BUT you cannot accept it emotionally. So you are out to de-legitimize the "Red Pill" as a way to protect your frail ego.

 

[Tenacity]

Guess what? There is a big difference between questioning something that doesn't add up to you and arguing about something because it doesn't make you feel good. You do the latter more than the former.

Complete and utter hogwash. Tenacity argues based on what "feels good" all of a sudden, when I've been one of the main guys on the forum promoting critical thinking over "positive thinking" to the point of where I have been labeled "too negative" pretty much since I got here?

Get the hell out of here PlayHerMan.

You are not the authority on "what this site is supposed to be"

And YOU AREN'T EITHER. So how about you STFU with your "beta fag.got" rants when someone doesn't agree with your a.ss? You are too extreme and too one dimensional. I completely UNDERSTAND your point of view and I am stating again (like I have before) that I don't fvcking agree with it.

I don't agree with your extreme one-dimensional views on women and men for that matter, with your constant referencing to "alpha" or "beta" as if any guy is one or the other. I asked you a question and I'll restate it: You've been banned before on here, if you are this "alpha guy" that you claim to be, why did you come back under a different username?

Its a site for men to talk about game and other things. Men can choose what they want to talk about.

I 100% agree, so stop with your "beta fag.got" bullshyt whenever a grown a.ss man on this website wants to talk about something or hold a completely different viewpoint to you.

On several occasions you called me "the best poster on SoSuave pound for pound". This continued until I hurt your "feelings" at some point. Then you turned to the other extreme of hating my guts.

I don't hate anybody on this website, I don't know most of you because you're fvcking anonymous....for all I know you could be a god damn woman lol.

Your writing style is STILL one of the best on this website. I said that before and I'll say it again. MY issue with you Poon King/PlayHerMan is your constant referencing of "beta fag.gots" whenever somebody doesn't fvcking agree with you number one, then number two, your extreme one-dimensional views of women being all XYZ....and men being either ALPHA cartoon characters or BETA FAG.GOTS. Then three, seeing as though you keep referencing to how ALPHA you are, you ought to show example of this Alpha lifestyle by posting pics of any plate you are spinning.

Other than that, your writing style is very good! You should write a book! I'm serious. Remember when I said I was going to do the "Book of Poon King"? It's because I believe your writing style is very great and you might not have been putting it to good use. So I was going to write "your book" and take credit for it, similar to how the other Sosuave poster did with Pook.

 

[Tenacity]

Have you read everything at therationalmale.com ? If so, what do you think about what rollo has written?

How much of his stuff have you read?

What did you find helpful? (Please give specific examples)

What did you take objection to? (Please give specific examples)

-Augustus-

I've been on that website and I read a good chunk of it, I don't have time to read every single article on that website. In terms of the positive material I have gotten out of the Red Pill/MGTOW related discussions, it's been the following:

- The discussion and exposure of the Family Court has been very good
- The discussion of macro-economics, the class war, and other related "NWO" topics have been very good.
- The complete listing of all of the risks associated with any legal relationship with women have been good.
- The complete listing of the legal issues you can get into with women, have been very good.

The negatives are in relation to women being X, Y, and Z, that's my main issue.

I can tell you straight up, that dating a black woman from the hood is completely different than dating Elizabeth the white girl from the Suburbs who lives on daddy's trust fund. Dating a black woman who currently is in the Suburbs but grew up in the hood, is likely to be very different than dating Elizabeth who comes from the Suburbs living on daddy's trust fund.

- I believe that the Red Pill theories are too one-dimensional and extreme, and should instead focus on the cultural differences of women as well as their previous family/social structuring, which I believe plays a MUCH MORE IMPORTANT role in how the woman behaves and her "quality" than anything else.

- I rant often about black women fvcking thugs, but they fvck thugs because the black community as a whole is abnormal (backwards) to the white suburb community. In the black community, the thug is the Alpha Male, in the white suburbs, the guy on Wallstreet is the Alpha Male. MANY black women will not even date white men. Plus the black community is a matriarchy, black women RUN the fvcking households.

- I repeatedly talk about the theories of Red Pill being too DAMN EXTREME, too one size fits all. Most of the Alpha related cartoon "techniques" won't even work on Black Women for example, but there's no discussion of this due to the extreme nature of the conversation being ONE SIZE FITS ALL.

I believe that a guy should fix his looks, personality, and finances...........then determine what TYPE of woman he wants to deal with, which again comes back to cultural/social/family dynamics. Based on said CULTURE, he would tailor his personality to fit the culture that he's looking to operate in.

The Red Pill does NOT cover any of this real world related material.

In addition, I don't understand why most Red Pill/MGTOW guys are fvcking anonymous, once again. If you have what you believe to be some super, duper, hidden truth....why the FVCK are you hidden? Why aren't you blasting your super, duper, hidden truth everywhere if you truly believe it will help men escape some "prison" you deem them to be in?

Because MOST are fvcking anonymous and only are "MGTOW" on Red Pill related discussion forums, it makes the entire movement look fraudulent to me and fake.

 

[Trainwreck]

- I rant often about black women fvcking thugs, but they fvck thugs because the black community as a whole is abnormal (backwards) to the white suburb community. In the black community, the thug is the Alpha Male, in the white suburbs, the guy on Wallstreet is the Alpha Male. MANY black women will not even date white men. Plus the black community is a matriarchy, black women RUN the fvcking households

I have to disagree with you on that point. There's plenty of white girls chase bad boys, losers(hipsters/hippies), and white trash men like black women chase thugs in the black community. The difference is that the white girl ends up getting bailed out by some beta male that waited 30 years and is willing to take her baggage or by daddy, grandma, or some rich uncle that didn't have any kids. You act like every black woman wants a thug lol. In addition, the white women that go for black guys have lower standards than most black women. It's funny how 98% of the white single moms I see have mixed kids, all from a different dad lolz.

The Red Pill does NOT cover any of this real world related material.

In addition, I don't understand why most Red Pill/MGTOW guys are fvcking anonymous, once again. If you have what you believe to be some super, duper, hidden truth....why the FVCK are you hidden? Why aren't you blasting your super, duper, hidden truth everywhere if you truly believe it will help men escape some "prison" you deem them to be in?

Because MOST are fvcking anonymous and only are "MGTOW" on Red Pill related discussion forums, it makes the entire movement look fraudulent to me and fake.

Because these red pillers are essentially losers living off some fake facade they created off the internet. They will tell you they are this badass man living the dream, but bvtch and whine about women, liberals, minorities, and 95% of the time.

 

[Poon King]

Complete and utter hogwash. Tenacity argues based on what "feels good" all of a sudden, when I've been one of the main guys on the forum promoting critical thinking over "positive thinking" to the point of where I have been labeled "too negative" pretty much since I got here?

Just because you promote critical thinking, that doesn't mean you actually engage in it.

Do you even know what critical thinking is?

And YOU AREN'T EITHER. So how about you STFU with your "beta fag.got" rants when someone doesn't agree with your a.ss? You are too extreme and too one dimensional. I completely UNDERSTAND your point of view and I am stating again (like I have before) that I don't fvcking agree with it.

I don't agree with your extreme one-dimensional views on women and men for that matter, with your constant referencing to "alpha" or "beta" as if any guy is one or the other. I asked you a question and I'll restate it: You've been banned before on here, if you are this "alpha guy" that you claim to be, why did you come back under a different username?

You don't understand my point of view at all. Also.. its not about what you "agree with" its about REALITY.

I 100% agree, so stop with your "beta fag.got" bullshyt whenever a grown a.ss man on this website wants to talk about something or hold a completely different viewpoint to you.

I will NEVER stop with the "beta faggot" bullsh!t.

I don't hate anybody on this website, I don't know most of you because you're fvcking anonymous....for all I know you could be a god damn woman lol.

Your writing style is STILL one of the best on this website. I said that before and I'll say it again. MY issue with you Poon King/PlayHerMan is your constant referencing of "beta fag.gots" whenever somebody doesn't fvcking agree with you number one, then number two, your extreme one-dimensional views of women being all XYZ....and men being either ALPHA cartoon characters or BETA FAG.GOTS. Then three, seeing as though you keep referencing to how ALPHA you are, you ought to show example of this Alpha lifestyle by posting pics of any plate you are spinning.

I don't really give a sh!t to be honest.

I'm amazed you still don't understand this.

Other than that, your writing style is very good! You should write a book! I'm serious. Remember when I said I was going to do the "Book of Poon King"? It's because I believe your writing style is very great and you might not have been putting it to good use. So I was going to write "your book" and take credit for it, similar to how the other Sosuave poster did with Pook.

Do it!

 

[BlueAlpha1]

- I rant often about black women fvcking thugs, but they fvck thugs because the black community as a whole is abnormal (backwards) to the white suburb community. In the black community, the thug is the Alpha Male, in the white suburbs, the guy on Wallstreet is the Alpha Male. MANY black women will not even date white men. Plus the black community is a matriarchy, black women RUN the fvcking households

I have to disagree with you on that point. There's plenty of white girls chase bad boys, losers(hipsters/hippies), and white trash men like black women chase thugs in the black community. The difference is that the white girl ends up getting bailed out by some beta male that waited 30 years and is willing to take her baggage or by daddy, grandma, or some rich uncle that didn't have any kids. You act like every black woman wants a thug lol. In addition, the white women that go for black guys have lower standards than most black women. It's funny how 98% of the white single moms I see have mixed kids, all from a different dad lolz.

The Red Pill does NOT cover any of this real world related material.

In addition, I don't understand why most Red Pill/MGTOW guys are fvcking anonymous, once again. If you have what you believe to be some super, duper, hidden truth....why the FVCK are you hidden? Why aren't you blasting your super, duper, hidden truth everywhere if you truly believe it will help men escape some "prison" you deem them to be in?

Because MOST are fvcking anonymous and only are "MGTOW" on Red Pill related discussion forums, it makes the entire movement look fraudulent to me and fake.

Because these red pillers are essentially losers living off some fake facade they created off the internet. They will tell you they are this badass man living the dream, but bvtch and whine about women, liberals, minorities, and 95% of the time.

This is obviously Dhoulmagus, the race baiting idiot who was banned in August for whining and complaining, blaming racism on his failures in a very emo fashion, and now he's referring to others doing exactly what he was banned for doing. All of a sudden "Trainwreck" shows up in September doing the exact same thing. I suppose if I had a "get out of jail free card" with no expiration date to explain away my failures, I'd use it too.

Take out the garbage please, mods.

 

[Trainwreck]

This is obviously Dhoulmagus, the race baiting idiot who was banned in August for whining and complaining, blaming racism on his failures in a very emo fashion, and now he's referring to others doing exactly what he was banned for doing. All of a sudden "Trainwreck" shows up in September doing the exact same thing. I suppose if I had a "get out of jail free card" with no expiration date to explain away my failures, I'd use it too.

Take out the garbage please, mods.

Dude stfu and stop stalking my posts. You have nothing worthy enough to say and all you do is cry to the mods when your panties get tight. Block me, ignore me, or do something my god. You have been put on ignore, so go cry to mods more.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Dude stfu and stop stalking my posts. You have nothing worthy enough to say and all you do is cry to the mods when your panties get tight. Block me, ignore me, or do something my god. I would be happy to put your ass on ignore from now. You are literally worse than Indian race trolls.

As long as you continue to talk about "white trash" and categorize all white males as Elliot Rodger types, I reserve the right to expose racist trolls like you who bring down the quality of the forum by a vast amount.

 

[Trainwreck]

""""BlueAlpha1, post: 2387841, member: 124552"]As long as you continue to talk about "white trash" and categorize all white males as Elliot Rodger types, I reserve the right to expose racist trolls like you who bring down the quality of the forum by a vast amount""""

Because you are one of those reactionary Elliot Rodger types. How are y'all manosphere basement reactionary types any different than Elliot Rodger? In addition, didn't categorize every white male as Elliot Rodger.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

""""BlueAlpha1, post: 2387841, member: 124552"]As long as you continue to talk about "white trash" and categorize all white males as Elliot Rodger types, I reserve the right to expose racist trolls like you who bring down the quality of the forum by a vast amount""""

Because you are one of those reactionary Elliot Rodger types. How are y'all manosphere basement reactionary types any different than Elliot Rodger? In addition, didn't categorize every white male as Elliot Rodger.

Because I'm not a virgin, I have engaged in several one night stands, and had a 4 year LTR, a 6 month LTR, and a 3 month LTR. I also don't live in a basement. I live on the 3rd floor of a really nice high rise and pay my own rent. I also don't buy luxury vehicles just to impress women. And I never killed 6 people. How's that, azzhole?

The only thing I have in common with Elliot Rodger is I'm a white male, but for you we look alike and that's enough. Now I want you to prove you're not a reactionary, basement-dwelling anti-white racist. Your posts as Dhoulmagus were seething with whiny bitterness. You refer to white trash all the time, so we know you're racist. Don't you live at home too, calling people basement dwellers???

 

[Trainwreck]

Because I'm not a virgin, I have engaged in several one night stands, and had a 4 year LTR, a 6 month LTR, and a 3 month LTR. I also don't live in a basement. I live on the 3rd floor of a really nice high rise and pay my own rent. I also don't buy luxury vehicles just to impress women. And I never killed 6 people. How's that, azzhole?

The only thing I have in common with Elliot Rodger is I'm a white male, but for you we look alike and that's enough. Now I want you to prove you're not a reactionary, basement-dwelling anti-white racist. Your posts as Dhoulmagus were seething with whiny bitterness. You refer to white trash all the time, so we know you're racist. Don't you live at home too, calling people basement dwellers???

I'm not going to take any of the above information as factual evidence. Elliot Rodgers did have links to the manosphere which you yourself are part of. He probably jerked off to redpill and Return of Kings bullshvt just like you do. Elliot Rodgers was one of yall, so quit trying to deny it lmao.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

I'm not going to take any of the above information as factual evidence. Elliot Rodgers did have links to the manosphere which you yourself are part of. He probably jerked off to redpill and Return of Kings bullshvt just like you do. Elliot Rodgers was one of yall, so quit trying to deny it lmao.

You're posting a manosphere blog also, and as Dhoulmagus you blamed "racism" for your failures constantly.

In that case, you're no different than Vester Flanagan. You both have a victim complex, imagined racism that didn't exist, and wanted to eradicate the "white trash" around. He was one of yall, so quit trying to deny it.

Now, do you see how ridiculous that sounds? It's because you're a ridiculous person.

 

[Trainwreck]

You're posting a manosphere blog also, and as Dhoulmagus you blamed "racism" for your failures constantly.

In that case, you're no different than Vester Flanagan. You both have a victim complex, imagined racism that didn't exist, and wanted to eradicate the "white trash" around. He was one of yall, so quit trying to deny it.

Now, do you see how ridiculous that sounds? It's because you're a ridiculous person.

Someone that mirrors Elliot Rodgers is calling me a ridiculous person? How cute of you lol.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Someone that mirrors Elliot Rodgers is calling me a ridiculous person? How cute of you lol.

Nice one, Vester

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Tenacity,

We are in agreement that finding a quality woman is what's important. But unlike you, I have no experience with dating someone from the hood. Back in the late 70's I was in a three year LTR with a black woman. Her Dad was a cop and her Mom was a stay at home Mom. She had the honor of being the first woman to break my heart. However, she was extremely good looking and she also turned me on to Parliament-Funkadelic, so, maybe it was an even exchange... The only other black woman I've been with was earlier this year. A 35 year old nurse who was born in Jamaica.

And if you're implying that a woman who was raised in a matriarchal household is probably not a good match, again, we are in agreement.

Also, since you mention it, have you considered dating "Elizabeth from the suburbs" ? If you do, just remember that she can also go feral on you.

I hope to write another post tomorrow when I have more time.

-Augustus-

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Just continue growing and learning in your own unique way. Stop trying to changes peoples perception through your ego viewpoint

 

[Steady Eddie]

When I saw the opening post, I thought Tenacity's account had been hacked. On reading subsequent posts, I felt his views (in contrast from what he's written in the past) were the result of (recent?) sexual intercourse with a woman, who closely matches his ideal.
There's no accounting for this thread, otherwise.

I've long thought the experiences which guide our acceptance of the red pill, can be found in two forms. Soft circumstances and hard events.
An example of a soft circumstance is seeing an acquaintance go through a debilitating divorce. While you can empathise, you're not personally involved
and can rationalise to yourself 'it's not you. Nor will it likely be you'.
A hard event would be watching your mother's hypergamy destroy the relationship she had with your father. A relationship, you once could've sworn was, made from cast iron steel. And last just as long.

Our experiences inform our opinions. Rollo Tomassi described the actions of a woman he'd never met (my mother). He could only do that, if all women are like that.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Steady Eddie,

Perhaps you're on to something. LOL

Not that I've followed Tenacity's posts that closely, but I've read some of his stuff. And yes, it seemed like a change to me too.

And what's with the influx of "red pill = bad", "if you're red pill you think all women are evil", etc type of posts?

Coincidentally, Rollo's latest essay talks about people who are allegedly creating "red pill" content but they don't understand WTF the red pill is. I suppose we are seeing some of that here. Guys who think they understand but really don't.

You get to the point where you feel like you're wasting your time attempting to explain and just want to provide the link to the site and leave it at that.

As for me, it has made a tremendous difference and has explained so many things. It's truly been an "aha, now that makes sense" kind of experience. And it continues to be proven correct every day.

-Augustus-

 

[TheFixer14]

I will say that women can be pretty awful. Even the "good ones". Though saying that someone is good just means that they are doing something that is convenient for you.

 

[Von]

Isn't the entire goal of life is being happy?

Isn't being happy the most alpha thing in the world?

Hapiness in the moment, in the love life, in the work etc...

Tha't's the axiomatic goal.

Everything here has to be taken with a grain of salt because its paper/text... you take the theory, the knowledge, internalize it, make it your own, and apply it.

This forum is clear on that.

So be happy, end of the story.... you have a female you love? LTR her, make the relationship good.... be in control of your happiness.... that's the truth