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Something to reiterate again, wifehunter, is by conversing with her you're working on your social confidence and any latent approach anxiety you may feel. It's a good thing, man. You don't need to have an outcome expectation like a close of some kind - if you feel like that is 'chasing' as you put it. Just enjoy the interaction and it will become a positive feedback loop. All these small interactions will help build you up for the one you deem worthy as a catch or with high interest level.
 

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where are you in orange county? I dont think all girls are like this
Costa Mesa/Irvine/Newport Beach

Not all, just most of them.

I have been, and would like to be more optimistic, but...Most ladies only want to deal on their terms. They are mostly self-entitled losers. Lots of fake/narcissistic people here. True respect is rare. It's a sad reality.
 

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Something to reiterate again, wifehunter, is by conversing with her you're working on your social confidence and any latent approach anxiety you may feel. It's a good thing, man. You don't need to have an outcome expectation like a close of some kind - if you feel like that is 'chasing' as you put it. Just enjoy the interaction and it will become a positive feedback loop. All these small interactions will help build you up for the one you deem worthy as a catch or with high interest level.
That's the plan. Most of these awful creatures are just target practice.
 

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Costa Mesa/Irvine/Newport Beach

Not all, just most of them.

I have been, and would like to be more optimistic, but...Most ladies only want to deal on their terms. They are mostly self-entitled losers. Lots of fake/narcissistic people here. True respect is rare. It's a sad reality.
oh yeah down there most definitely there are a lot like that but not all. Go further north and the attitudes change slightly
 

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oh yeah down there most definitely there are a lot like that but not all. Go further north and the attitudes change slightly
I just need time to regroup.

My strategy for character assessment may need to be adjusted. Sometimes, I wish there was a quicker way, but I have to put time into it.

Steady as she goes!
 

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Update: she's still chasing, I got her name, she seems shy now.

I'm thinking taco Tuesday...mmmm hungry! :cool:

May have to number close...
 

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Costa Mesa/Irvine/Newport Beach

Not all, just most of them.

I have been, and would like to be more optimistic, but...Most ladies only want to deal on their terms. They are mostly self-entitled losers. Lots of fake/narcissistic people here. True respect is rare. It's a sad reality.
I'll agree with you on that, dealing with socal girls is just frustrating as fvck. If you don't play by their rules they know that finding a guy that will is no problem at all. Even if they are just average.
 

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I'll agree with you on that, dealing with socal girls is just frustrating as fvck. If you don't play by their rules they know that finding a guy that will is no problem at all. Even if they are just average.
Girls in orange country are retarded and narcissistic
 

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I'll agree with you on that, dealing with socal girls is just frustrating as fvck. If you don't play by their rules they know that finding a guy that will is no problem at all. Even if they are just average.
It's true, although I find branch swinging to be wh0reish behavior. It makes me sick.

The problem is, deep down, they really don't want a guy they can lead around by the nose. They want the masculine guy, but don't want to submit to masculinity or leadership. As soon as they find him, they try to feminize him. Talk about retarded... I blame our society and culture. The ladies just go along with it.

The good news is, challenge cuts through all that like a hot knife on butter. Standing out in this environment is a piece of cake.

Find a better guy, ladies!!!

All the girls that have broken up with me have, after a few months, wanted to get back together. They've even apologized after they realized this problem, but only after the pain sets in. I didn't get back together with any of them, because, I moved on to greener pastures, as it were.
Most of the really pretty ones hb9's/hb10's have been spoiled, and are disgusting on the inside. They'll end up being gross, ugly, nasty witches, like my mom.

Trying to control a hurricane, is a lost cause. Which is why I'm still single, to this day.
 

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You spend way too much time analyzing and talking about it and not enough time acting on it. Action is what counts the rest is all bullsh!t
 

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Update:

After I got her name, she backed off / went scarce a week ago. Today she's back to chasing. Seems, I'm finally finding a balance here. Feels good!!!
 

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Rewind to about a week ago, it was a normal shopping day at sprouts. I notice an amazing looking brunette. I went right up to her and said "your hair is completely stunning".
Never open with a compliment. Hence, OP is talking about her and not having sex with her tonight.
 

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It's true, although I find branch swinging to be wh0reish behavior. It makes me sick.

The problem is, deep down, they really don't want a guy they can lead around by the nose. They want the masculine guy, but don't want to submit to masculinity or leadership. As soon as they find him, they try to feminize him. Talk about retarded... I blame our society and culture. The ladies just go along with it.

The good news is, challenge cuts through all that like a hot knife on butter. Standing out in this environment is a piece of cake.

Find a better guy, ladies!!!

All the girls that have broken up with me have, after a few months, wanted to get back together. They've even apologized after they realized this problem, but only after the pain sets in. I didn't get back together with any of them, because, I moved on to greener pastures, as it were.
Most of the really pretty ones hb9's/hb10's have been spoiled, and are disgusting on the inside. They'll end up being gross, ugly, nasty witches, like my mom.

Trying to control a hurricane, is a lost cause. Which is why I'm still single, to this day.
Not sure I agree with that... attempts to feminize a man is more of testing his strength. The problem is that most men will submit to it. Then they end up in sexless and boring LTR or marriages, waiting for the inevitable split.

Marriage is really the problem in our society. It is the end game. Because most men submit or settle with lesser women, it allows the women to foster their bad behaviors, share with their friends, and continue to support feminism. It also contributes to the demasculination (sp?) of all men. If a DJ ends up with a lesser woman, and she is unable to put him in a cage, he is an ashhole. The percent of strong men and high value women is small, so the chances they find each other are smaller.

With women making more money now, and men getting alimony, the tables are about to be turned upside down.. hopefully...
 

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Show us photos of the women you picked up. Black out their eyes if you are so concerned they might care.

Most of you f*ggots has ever proven a thing here, except that you're single.
Relax big guy, if you were more honest with yourself you would realize how stupid you sounded in that situation. If you want to see what women I game I'm in Chicago I'm not posting pictures I get around....
 

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Never open with a compliment. Hence, OP is talking about her and not having sex with her tonight.
Really? Never a compliment? Why?
 

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It's too easy and you lose your frame. I didn't write this rule but I adhere to it. It's always extremely tempting to open with a compliment but it puts you in the orbiter category.
But, if I'm not orbiting (I usually back off after first contact), it's a different thing all together.
 

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"Here are the top six reasons not to compliment women:

1. You’re not telling her anything she doesn’t already know. Hot chicks are fully aware they’re hot by the time they’re about 15 years old. It’s not news to them. Telling a hot chick she’s hot is like telling her the sky is blue or that there’s oxygen in the air. It just makes you look “very normal”, if not a little dumb.

2. Hundreds, if not thousands of men have already told her this. If you tell her this too, you’re just adding yourself to the pile of all the other guys she’s politely brushed off. You are in no way unique.

3. It’s not a compliment. That’s right. Telling her she’s hot or sexy or beautiful or whatever is not giving her a compliment. It’s like walking up to a multimillionaire and saying “You have a lot of money.” Trust me, that millionaire will in no way feel complimented. He’ll just assume you’re awkward. And he’ll be right.

Now yes, because of Societal Programming, a hot chick will be obligated to say something back like “Oh, thank you!”, but that doesn’t mean ****. If you’ve ever dated a really hot chick and watched other guys tell her how attractive she is, even good looking guys who said it smoothly, I’m sure you got a full commentary from her regarding the lack of quality these men were displaying, even if she was demonstrating gratitude for their compliments.

I’m not saying women don’t like men kissing their asses. They certainly do. I’m saying hearing from men something they already know and have heard a thousand times is not a compliment. If you just can’t control yourself and must compliment her, tell her she’s smart or interesting or unique, not beautiful.

4. It reduces your odds of a lay. This is unquestionable. Try the “20 woman experiment” above and track your results if you don’t believe me. By not complimenting a woman’s appearance, your odds of a lay go up. The speed of the lay also goes up. Moreover, the hotter she is, the more important it is to not say anything about it.

5. It damages your Alpha standing in her eyes. Even if you’re a cool, attractive guy, the simple act of telling a hot chick she’s hot will take you down a notch in her mental assessment of your sexual worthiness.

I didn’t say if she’s totally into you she’ll be suddenly turned off if you mention she’s attractive. If you’ve already scored 87 points on her 0-100 scale, telling her she’s hot won’t drop you the entire 87, but it will drop you down to 83 or 77 or 75.

Why do this? Why take the chance? Why make this harder on yourself?

“Well, I like telling women they’re beautiful. It makes me feel more natural and human. It makes the interaction more organic.”

Okay, fine. But can’t you wait until you’ve had sex with her a few times before you tell her she’s sexy or has nice tits? Is it really that difficult?

6. It damages your Outcome Independence, whether you realize it or not. This is the biggest internal reason why you shouldn’t do this. By telling a hot woman she’s hot, you have mentally placed her on a pedestal in your own mind at least a little bit. You’re going to want her just a little more now. Your Outcome Independence will have taken a hit. At least a small one. Not good.

Next time you’re with some Hot Chick™, remember this article.

Just don’t do it.
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That said, after about 5 weeks of knowing her, when she sat on my lap for the first time and we confessed we both had a crush, I told my current girl she was one of the most beautiful women I had ever seen. But not until after she had a crush. Big difference.

My opening line - "Excuse me, but may I order food to go from you and a drink for here, paying cash?"
 

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