Nexting too early?

[Throw_away787]

I am sure this has come up before on this forum. But one thing I noticed that most discussants on this forum have a very low threshold to next women that they meet. I agree that a guy should not be chasing a woman, but do you think that sometimes...there is a tendency on this forum to next women too early?

 

[dustmuffin]

no

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Yes. If a woman doesn't basically tell you she wants to fvck you within 60 minutes of meeting you 75% of the posters on this board think you should next her. Personally I think its group speak where one person says something and then everyone else just goes along with them. I'm finding out through my own research and tests of doing various things that would be considered blasphemy here that I'm getting better results for myself and getting laid easier and more often. Some advice is good but just because a lot of people agree with something doesn't mean its correct or that it will work for you...

My advice is to try different things and see what works best for you and then repeat that, regardless of what others say...

 

[El Payaso]

The general advice here is if her response to your date or hangout proposals are anything but a yes or solid counter offer then you should next her.

If you want to waste your time chasing after a flaky woman, then feel free to.

 

[BeTheChange]

The problem is defining flaky. If you expect that a HB8+, who's number you got after a 5 minutes conversation, should move mountains and her schedule to meet you for a drink then you're an idiot. And yet the general consensus is that if you ask her out and she doesn't respond with a counter offer you should delete the number. It's delusional.

I've had much better results since discarding the one or two strike rule. I ask out, review the response and if it's negative, try again a month later. It takes nothing. Whatsapp and copy and paste works wonders. I can send the same message to 100 women. Effortless. And I stack dates to eliminate the risk of being flaked on. I flake on women more than they flake on me.

Dropping a girl you perceive as "low interest" is more about ego than anything else, unless you are dropping serious dollars or time on girls you are dating, which you shouldn't be doing until you've atleast fvcked them as it is.

 

[Scars]

Despite what some guys here think, just because a woman doesn't sleep with you within 30 minutes of meeting you isn't a sign of disrespect or disinterest. Admittedly, some girls put up more sh!t tests than others, and you have to work a little bit for it. I've been here 11 years, and I was digging back into some of my really old lay reports and reading them. So many of them I would make a move like putting my hand up their shirt while making out, and get denied. Then I continued making out, and tried again, and kept going a little further. Some of them did the whole "I'm not the kind of girl" type spill.. and I did the whole "I don't think that you are.." kinda deal. Basically saying something, than doing the complete opposite with my actions. It was all about making them feel like they weren't a slut, and making them feel good in the moment... this is an extreme example, but sometimes you need to "foreplay" a little bit. Not exactly meaning you got to finger bang her or eat her out, I'm just saying, sometimes you gotta get her in the mood where your advances feel more natural... anyway, I am ranting. When a woman flat out disrespects me, then I will next. Some guys can't differentiate a sh!t test from disrespect sometimes. But if a woman blew me off, or called me a name or something like that.. done, NEXT.

 

[Pandora]

I also dont think that you can next too early. I bet for most men the girls that you ended up sleeping with it happened fast and early. There were consistent signs of interest. I also bet that out of all the girls you ended up sleeping with most didnt flake on the first date. In my humble experience, once they start playing even mild games, its not a good sign. I think most guys dont live in abundance and are hamstering signs of low interest. If you delete her number and she was interested in you at all, she will text you. It sucks but i dont think he can get around the golden rule of just keep nexting and meeting a whole bunch of them until you find the one that is highly interested.

 

[Pandora]

Despite what some guys here think, just because a woman doesn't sleep with you within 30 minutes of meeting you isn't a sign of disrespect or disinterest. Admittedly, some girls put up more sh!t tests than others, and you have to work a little bit for it. I've been here 11 years, and I was digging back into some of my really old lay reports and reading them. So many of them I would make a move like putting my hand up their shirt while making out, and get denied. Then I continued making out, and tried again, and kept going a little further. Some of them did the whole "I'm not the kind of girl" type spill.. and I did the whole "I don't think that you are.." kinda deal. Basically saying something, than doing the complete opposite with my actions. It was all about making them feel like they weren't a slut, and making them feel good in the moment... this is an extreme example, but sometimes you need to "foreplay" a little bit. Not exactly meaning you got to finger bang her or eat her out, I'm just saying, sometimes you gotta get her in the mood where your advances feel more natural... anyway, I am ranting. When a woman flat out disrespects me, then I will next. Some guys can't differentiate a sh!t test from disrespect sometimes. But if a woman blew me off, or called me a name or something like that.. done, NEXT.

You ever had a girl sleep with you and then you have to next them after? Like they show interest and sleep with you. Then they start playing games and then you have to next them.

 

[Scars]

You ever had a girl sleep with you and then you have to next them after? Like they show interest and sleep with you. Then they start playing games and then you have to next them.

Absolutely. Some girls just got way too clingy. I'm more of a pump it once and be done with it kinda dude. I got the notch, now I'm moving on. Unless the sex was mind blowing, or the girl was super ****ing hot then I usually next them after that. Nearly every girl I've ever ****ed has wanted to be my girlfriend... I can't be having that. Some girls you ****, others you date, simple as that.

 

[Infern0]

Corey wayne said it right.

If a woman likes you her doors open, if she starts closing them you walk away.

She may or may not run after you.

It's pretty simple.

 

[fastlife]

Yes. I hardly ever 'Hard Next.' I might lose interest or be distracted by better prospects if she drags things out. But short term, I've had too many girls give me 0 signs of sexual interest (other than sticking around) right up until we end up in bed together; and long term, I've had too many girls that opened enthusiastically weeks or months down the line; so if I want to make things happen with a girl, I try to make it happen for as long as she's responding to my texts or staying in my general vicinity.

If you're filtering for a LTR then you probably need to Next far more stringently; if you're emotionally invested (which you shouldn't be up front) then Next her. But with a hot 18-21 y/o girl in 2016 you haven't slept with, she's gonna flake, she probably has next to 0 girl game (i.e. no idea how to tastefully project interest), your phone number means next to nothing to her, and it has nothing to do with her 'disrespecting you'--she doesn't even really know who you are, so how could she possibly 'disrespect you'?

 

[Scars]

Yes. I hardly ever 'Hard Next.' I might lose interest or be distracted by better prospects if she drags things out. But short term, I've had too many girls give me 0 signs of sexual interest (other than sticking around) right up until we end up in bed together; and long term, I've had too many girls that opened enthusiastically weeks or months down the line; so if I want to make things happen with a girl, I try to make it happen for as long as she's responding to my texts or staying in my general vicinity.

If you're filtering for a LTR then you probably need to Next far more stringently; if you're emotionally invested (which you shouldn't be up front) then Next her. But with a hot 18-21 y/o girl in 2016 you haven't slept with, she's gonna flake, she probably has next to 0 girl game (i.e. no idea how to tastefully project interest), your phone number means next to nothing to her, and it has nothing to do with her 'disrespecting you'--she doesn't even really know who you are, so how could she possibly 'disrespect you'?

I'm not saying a lack of interest = disrespect, I'm saying if a girl makes plans with you, then blows you off, doesn't call, wastes your time.. then that is disrespect. I understand most girls flake, anyone in the game for awhile knows this. But I respect a woman a lot more if she respectfully declines my advances for another meetup, or at least gives me a heads up if she isn't going to show.

 

[fastlife]

I'm not saying a lack of interest = disrespect, I'm saying if a girl makes plans with you, then blows you off, doesn't call, wastes your time.. then that is disrespect. I understand most girls flake, anyone in the game for awhile knows this. But I respect a woman a lot more if she respectfully declines my advances for another meetup, or at least gives me a heads up if she isn't going to show.

I 'date' almost exclusively in the 18-21 y/o range and definitely on the top end of the looks spectrum. These girls aren't 'wasting your time;' time as a concept to be valued isn't something they can even fathom. A stranger's time? All they know are the guys--grown azz men--who waste their time texting them, sliding into their FB inboxes, jumping through hoops on Tinder, liking their posts on IG. They don't know a high value man when they see one. When one respectfully cancels or takes the initiative to propose a meetup instead of just stopping replying or no showing I'll let you know.

I might tell them off playfully, put them on ice for a couple weeks/month, and try again. They either get the memo--that my time and attention requires their performance--or they don't.

If I've slept with a girl and she flakes, then I'd Next her (but that doesn't happen). Or if I happened to be dating a girl a little older, I'd assume she should have developed some type of tact.

That said, I keep all my meetups super low investment--either places I'd be going anyway or places where there'll be other girls to meet. And I only bother with Day 2's if I absolutely can't get her the night we meet & she's really spectacular (otherwise, I'd rather just go out later in the week).

 

[BeTheChange]

Read and reread fastlife's posts fellas. He gets it. The reality is you guys are needlessly hard nexting women due to ego and perceived "disrespect" and in doing so missing out on a whole new world of opportunities with the youngest and hottest women out there.