What is quality woman to you?

[wifehunter]

I dont get it. How can they be quality if they deep down are just the opposite of it??

Every woman can turn inti a bytch, every woman can betray you... What the fvck? They cant possibly be quality..

Sure, It's how they handle the temptation to be a b!tch. It also depends on the man acting like a man. Women get b!tchy when they feel they've got a raw deal (ex: guy turns out to be a wuss, instead if a man)

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

In honor of the Nobel Prizewinner:

I got this graveyard woman, you know she keeps my kids

But my soulful mama, you know she keeps me hid

She's a junkyard angel and she always gives me bread

Well, if I go down dyin', you know she's bound to put a blanket on my bed

Well, when the pipeline gets broken and I'm lost on the river bridge

I'm all cracked up on the highway and in the water's edge

And then she comes down a thruway, ready to sew me up with a thread

Well, if I go down dyin', you know she's bound to put a blanket on my bed

Well, she don't make me nervous, she don't talk too much

She walks like Bo Diddley and she don't need no crutch

She keeps this four-ten all loaded with lead

Well, if I go down dyin', you know she's bound to put a blanket on my bed, c'mon

Well, you know I need a steam shovel, mama, to keep away the dead

I need a dump truck, baby, to unload my head

She brings me everything and more, and just like I said

Well, if I go down dyin', you know she's bound to put a blanket on my bed

 

[BraddH]

Good question.

It's important to understand what guys here mean when they talk of the 'quality woman'. They mean a woman that is stable for their provisioning - a good investment for settling down. They are looking for security in women.

Women have 2 faces: their social self, and their real self. The social self will call the hot girl in the group a slag for dressing a certain way (getting all the attention), whilst her real self got fvcked in a ONS on holiday with a random guy. Women are chameleons, and very adept social manipulators.

Women have game too, and this is a part of it. Beta males will be drawn to the social facade. It allows him to feel comfort. He will pedestal her as 'the quality woman', and will consider her for provisioning (when it goes wrong, he is the 'hopeless romantic'). Whilst the ladies man understands it is all just a game. Let it go in one ear, and out the other.

The men that don't understand and accept this will always be on the outside of this game looking in.

Ok. Sounds more logical.

 

[devilkingx2]

I dont get it. How can they be quality if they deep down are just the opposite of it??

Every woman can turn inti a bytch, every woman can betray you... What the fvck? They cant possibly be quality..

ever seen the dark knight? remember how the joker proved that any man can turn into a monster using harvey dent/two face, but then later on the boat scenes prove that all men have good in them too? it's kind of like that.

part of not being low quality just means she's unlikely to screw you over for no reason.

similar to how not being a psychopath doesn't mean you're incapable of murder, it simply means that you're not particularly likely(or predisposed) to go kill anyone

 

[BraddH]

ever seen the dark knight? remember how the joker proved that any man can turn into a monster using harvey dent/two face, but then later on the boat scenes prove that all men have good in them too? it's kind of like that.

part of not being low quality just means she's unlikely to screw you over for no reason.

similar to how not being a psychopath doesn't mean you're incapable of murder, it simply means that you're not particularly likely(or predisposed) to go kill anyone

But when you do go kill someone? The whole world will be in a total shock. A catastrophe will be born out of it.

When a psychopath kills someone? No huge deal, it was expected.

 

[devilkingx2]

But when you do go kill someone? The whole world will be in a total shock. A catastrophe will be born out of it.

When a psychopath kills someone? No huge deal, it was expected.

the funny thing is that it doesn't work like that in the metaphor or out.

you'll see plenty of times a tragedy was easily avoidable but everyone was too stupid to do anything about it ahead of time(ever seen a tragedy where the perpetrator's neighbors, relatives, exes, friends and dog all thought he was shady or angry or that there was otherwise something wrong with them? or missed really obvious signs? I have, and recently too.), hell everytime a psychopath kills someone they try to blame it on some dumb ass political talking point and make it way more serious than it is

likewise, plenty of dudes will date shady slvts and act completely shocked when they get ****ed over, i know because i've made that mistake.

people kill each other every day, a random person committing a relatively normal murder won't be much more than a 5 minute news story, however you're metaphorically right that it's much more devastating to be screwed over by a woman you weren't expecting to screw you over

 

[devilkingx2]

Plenty of guys will marry their "quality woman", and act shocked when she files for divorce too.

Or how about the "quality woman" that monkey swings to another man (had this happen to a friend of mine recently, and had it attempted on me)? Or how about when you start to uncover more of her real sexual experience, and figure out that she has experimented with lesbian sex (as happened with me recently). Or the "quality woman" that uses mirroring as a dating tactic (which is gaslighting - and extremely commonplace). Or the myriad of other behaviours that women engage in as par for the course?

When you've gone out with enough women you will start to notice that there are patterns in a woman's sexual behaviour which are very different to those of men. Our culture confuses people by attempting to cover over this. But eventually you will start to figure out that something is "wrong".

What is "wrong" is actually right. It can be looked at and discussed by thousands of people on the internet that all share the same experiences.

Hell, some of the more ruthless game strategies that I've learnt have come from the women in my own life - not men on the internet

Yet, some men hold out hope that there is just that one woman out there that doesn't behave like a woman - "the quality woman unicorn". It's clutching at straws, and I suppose that is what you have to do in order to be crazy enough to actually consider a serious commitment to something like marriage in this century.

However, understanding and accepting this helps you to enjoy their company whilst protecting yourself from their more neurotic and damaging behaviors.

so true, i like this post.

the only thing you could call "objective" quality in a woman is one who usually waits a decent reason to screw you over

anything else would just be subjective, whatever you think is best in a girl

 

[BraddH]

Plenty of guys will marry their "quality woman", and act shocked when she files for divorce too.

Or how about the "quality woman" that monkey swings to another man (had this happen to a friend of mine recently, and had it attempted on me)? Or how about when you start to uncover more of her real sexual experience, and figure out that she has experimented with lesbian sex (as happened with me recently). Or the "quality woman" that uses mirroring as a dating tactic (which is gaslighting - and extremely commonplace). Or the myriad of other behaviours that women engage in as par for the course?

When you've gone out with enough women you will start to notice that there are patterns in a woman's sexual behaviour which are very different to those of men. Our culture confuses people by attempting to cover over this. But eventually you will start to figure out that something is "wrong".

What is "wrong" is actually right. It can be looked at and discussed by thousands of people on the internet that all share the same experiences.

Hell, some of the more ruthless game strategies that I've learnt have come from the women in my own life - not men on the internet

Yet, some men hold out hope that there is just that one woman out there that doesn't behave like a woman - "the quality woman unicorn". It's clutching at straws, and I suppose that is what you have to do in order to be crazy enough to actually consider a serious commitment to something like marriage in this century.

However, understanding and accepting this helps you to enjoy their company whilst protecting yourself from their more neurotic and damaging behaviors.

Exactly! This is how I feel. I feel like there is really not any quality woman. I really can't expect anypone to behave like one. AT LEAST I know that I wont be investing and trusting any amount of energy into SLVTS. The ''quality women'' can really fvck you over once her manipulation is done and her true self comes out. At this moment, you have invested so much energy, time and trust that it is bound to fvck you over.

There is definetly a difference between how a ''quality woman'' will fvck you over compared to a slvt.

Slvts wont manipulate you, they know they cant. ''quality women'' will manipulate you, they know they can.

 

[BraddH]

Plenty of guys will marry their "quality woman", and act shocked when she files for divorce too.

Or how about the "quality woman" that monkey swings to another man (had this happen to a friend of mine recently, and had it attempted on me)? Or how about when you start to uncover more of her real sexual experience, and figure out that she has experimented with lesbian sex (as happened with me recently). Or the "quality woman" that uses mirroring as a dating tactic (which is gaslighting - and extremely commonplace). Or the myriad of other behaviours that women engage in as par for the course?

When you've gone out with enough women you will start to notice that there are patterns in a woman's sexual behaviour which are very different to those of men. Our culture confuses people by attempting to cover over this. But eventually you will start to figure out that something is "wrong".

What is "wrong" is actually right. It can be looked at and discussed by thousands of people on the internet that all share the same experiences.

Hell, some of the more ruthless game strategies that I've learnt have come from the women in my own life - not men on the internet

Yet, some men hold out hope that there is just that one woman out there that doesn't behave like a woman - "the quality woman unicorn". It's clutching at straws, and I suppose that is what you have to do in order to be crazy enough to actually consider a serious commitment to something like marriage in this century.

However, understanding and accepting this helps you to enjoy their company whilst protecting yourself from their more neurotic and damaging behaviors.

There is definetly a difference between how a ''quality woman'' will fvck you over compared to a slvt.

Slvts wont manipulate you, they know they cant. ''quality women'' will manipulate you, they know they can.

Quality women are quality because they KNOW how to manipulate and they KNOW that dumb people will get manipulated and trust them. SLVTS cant do this.

So yes, I dont think anyone would consciously date or marry a sltvs untill he is fvcked up in the head. Most of these guys' are just manipulated. Are there any quality woman?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Good at cooking, healthy self-esteem, willing to submit, knows that working out and having sex are important prerequisites to dating me long-term.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Plenty of guys will marry their "quality woman", and act shocked when she files for divorce too.

Or how about the "quality woman" that monkey swings to another man (had this happen to a friend of mine recently, and had it attempted on me)? Or how about when you start to uncover more of her real sexual experience, and figure out that she has experimented with lesbian sex (as happened with me recently). Or the "quality woman" that uses mirroring as a dating tactic (which is gaslighting - and extremely commonplace). Or the myriad of other behaviours that women engage in as par for the course?

When you've gone out with enough women you will start to notice that there are patterns in a woman's sexual behaviour which are very different to those of men. Our culture confuses people by attempting to cover over this. But eventually you will start to figure out that something is "wrong".

What is "wrong" is actually right. It can be looked at and discussed by thousands of people on the internet that all share the same experiences.

Hell, some of the more ruthless game strategies that I've learnt have come from the women in my own life - not men on the internet

Yet, some men hold out hope that there is just that one woman out there that doesn't behave like a woman - "the quality woman unicorn". It's clutching at straws, and I suppose that is what you have to do in order to be crazy enough to actually consider a serious commitment to something like marriage in this century.

However, understanding and accepting this helps you to enjoy their company whilst protecting yourself from their more neurotic and damaging behaviors.

Women can similarly complain ad nauseum about men. You can either take a tribal 'us against them' approach... or become civilized, where you learn to live together under a rational law. A quality women is simply a civilized one in a sea of barbarians.

Actually, it's an interesting question. Just as the Victorian poets asked whether it was possible to write poetry in unpoetic times, we are asking if LLTR is possible in... whatever these times are.

It depends on the individual no doubt. We are still individuals I assume... capable of educating ourselves out of the masses. I for one still choose to write poetry.

 

[BraddH]

You would need to actually kiss a girl first.

Come back and mouth off at me about your stellar "inner game" once you have lost your virginity.

How exactly did this contribute anything to anyone?

 

[Poonani Maker]

One who sees the NEED for being a stay-at-home mom (NO career) should we decide to have kids. Shuffling you kids off to daycare is the death nail for them psychologically. It's just the same as abandonment from their natural mother. They must be "mothered" from birth until about 5 or 6 but best if until 8 or 9.

She must have: nice face, nice as5, pvssy, and t!ts. I've been with small-breasted women of late and discovered that it's not just physical that I don't like their non-existent t!ts, but mental as well -- SHE tends to be a bit mental if she's flat-chested, and She most likely will not LIKE me if she's flat-chested. It's just been MY experience throughout the years. Filled-out breasted women, B+, C, and above have always taken to me, especially after sex. It kinda makes them FEMALE in my mind, motherly. They know I appreciate their milk reservoirs. Pvssy just must not be all beat up and semi-tight (cause I'm long, women get hurt some when I'm fvcking them I have to be careful certain angles. While "Ouch!" is not an everyweek occurence, it's an every 2 months or so vocalization I hear, followed by "Sorry, baby.."). As5 just must not have been penetrated by more than a finger I guess, must not have some kind of blister or wart on it. You never know where women have been, no matter how much she is "reformed," you'd be surprised even at mid-20s. No kids, it's that simple, my c0ck will have no consolation drilling no resistance, I mean, sure I'll last a loooong time but on one with 2 or more kids, I have to start fantasizing and thinking about other women and just imagine being somewhere else and with someone else.

She should not be liberal or feminist, of course. She should be loyal and show she's loyal. She must READ books. She must not be on the cellphone all the fvcking time or social media or TV. Knitting or household activities are plus. She must not follow the useless news, unless it's detailed and specified from a source like-minded like ME.

There's all kinds of other sh!t a female would suit me well like she must not ask for a new car, a house, shoes, clothes and on and on and on. She must be ALL about our children should we have them, and Really, that's all a woman should be for you, which is, the continuance of YOU, your genes, otherwise, don't live with them.

 

[BraddH]

One who sees the NEED for being a stay-at-home mom (NO career) should we decide to have kids. Shuffling you kids off to daycare is the death nail for them psychologically. It's just the same as abandonment from their natural mother. They must be "mothered" from birth until about 5 or 6 but best if until 8 or 9.

She must have: nice face, nice as5, pvssy, and t!ts. I've been with small-breasted women of late and discovered that it's not just physical that I don't like their non-existent t!ts, but mental as well -- SHE tends to be a bit mental if she's flat-chested, and She most likely will not LIKE me if she's flat-chested. It's just been MY experience throughout the years. Filled-out breasted women, B+, C, and above have always taken to me, especially after sex. It kinda makes them FEMALE in my mind, motherly. They know I appreciate their milk reservoirs. Pvssy just must not be all beat up and semi-tight (cause I'm long, women get hurt some when I'm fvcking them I have to be careful certain angles. While "Ouch!" is not an everyweek occurence, it's an every 2 months or so vocalization I hear, followed by "Sorry, baby.."). As5 just must not have been penetrated by more than a finger I guess, must not have some kind of blister or wart on it. You never know where women have been, no matter how much she is "reformed," you'd be surprised even at mid-20s. No kids, it's that simple, my c0ck will have no consolation drilling no resistance, I mean, sure I'll last a loooong time but on one with 2 or more kids, I have to start fantasizing and thinking about other women and just imagine being somewhere else and with someone else.

She should not be liberal or feminist, of course. She should be loyal and show she's loyal. She must READ books. She must not be on the cellphone all the fvcking time or social media or TV. Knitting or household activities are plus. She must not follow the useless news, unless it's detailed and specified from a source like-minded like ME.

There's all kinds of other sh!t a female would suit me well like she must not ask for a new car, a house, shoes, clothes and on and on and on. She must be ALL about our children should we have them, and Really, that's all a woman should be for you, which is, the continuance of YOU, your genes, otherwise, don't live with them.

Maybe get a robot?

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

What I feel is missing in the whole discussion here is the idea of an escape from ourselves.

Consider that the most joyful experiences we have in life involve the puncturing of our individuality, our ego. Why limit ourselves to our self? And so a quality woman would be a person you can trust to have fuller experiences with. I know, it's an ideal, but this is simply the way we are framed to think, and how it is we can judge the mass of women as falling short... in reality. Why rule out the possibility of this kind of experience a priori just on the basis that you have never experienced it before?

Yes, take the 'red-pill', but only as an antidote to naivete, and not as a worldview. It guards you against the mass of women, and against the behavioral norm that prevails today. But you can not let that norm undermine your own sense of the ideal for this is essential to the instinct of self development... in so far as that concerns us.

The development of self ironically involves us questioning prevailing discourses [yes, even red-pill discourse]. In making ourselves, we refuse to conform to any discursive norm.

 

[SeekerOfTheWay]

What else? What’s considered quality changes as you guys age? I don’t believe it’s all about youth. My (ex) lived that “dream” as I was much younger than he was and it wasn’t all a fairytale.

 

[Epic Days]

The question isn’t relative without a context.
If a guy is looking for the dream partnership whereby a family can thrive? Maybe 1-2% and chances are you won’t want them ( low SMV) or have access to them if you did want them.

If she’s a hermit living in a cave, maybe. Women mold to their environment. It’s part of their survival. Looking for a quality woman isn’t something you should set out to do. This makes you too easily manipulated.