The 20% man.

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If you frequent this site, regardless of your relationship status your goal should be to become a 20% man.

If you are unfamiliar with the 80/20 rule it states that

20% of men sleep with 80% of women and that the remaining 80% of men are scrapping over the remaining 20% of women.

Of course this is not literal. Its not exactly 20% of men are sleeping with 80% of women. What the formula does is moreso convey the point that what one woman finds attractive will most likely be attractive to the majority.

So the logical question is what do the 20% have that the 80 percent don't? Im going to do my best to break this down.
**This post is just as much for me as is for you as I will be first to admit I still have a ways to go in my journey. However Im enjoying the man I am becoming and I am happy to say Im getting better with age.

Ok so lets go. 80/20 break down.

**remember the values of 80% and 20% are figurative not literal
Its safe to say that 80% of men do not:

  • 80 percent of men do not have a set workout routine or schedule.
  • 80 percent of men are not debt free.
  • 80 percent of men do not have a 5 year plan.
  • 80 percent of men do not read on a regular basis
  • 80 percent of men do not have solid business and personal connections.
  • 80 percent of men do not have hobbies they love
  • 80 percent of men will not put a woman in her place when she is out of line.
  • 80 percent will not leave a woman to prove a point regardless of emotions
  • 80 percent of men do not follow a philosophy in life or have a code of ethics that is uncompromising.
  • 80 percent of men do not have flawless hygeine and maintain a neat living area.
  • 80 percent of men will not go against society for fear of ridicule.
  • 80 percent of men are not leaders.
  • 80 percent of men will tolerate disrespect.
  • 80 percent of men will drop what they are doing or go out of there way for sex.
  • 80 percent of men are sheep who can easily be led to slaughter.
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Now we have covered what the 80 percent do not have lets cover some things the 20 percent do have



  • A 20 percent man does not go on long discources or tyrades. He says exactly what he feels and is not concerned with sparing feelings.
  • A 20 percent man does not argue. He says what needs to be said and then proceeds with approriate action.
  • A 20 percent man is a master of self control.
  • A 20 percent man will leave a woman when she no longer pleases him
  • A 20 percent man does not make women a top priority.
  • A 20 percent man is concerned in advancing his career.
  • A 20 percent man is immaculately neat.
  • A 20 percent man is not a clown. He will tell a joke but he is not concerned with entertaining women.
  • A 20 percent man is always focused.
  • A 20 percent man does not doubt himself.
  • A 20 percent man does not stress.
  • A 20 percent man is no coward. He will not be disrespected by man, woman, child, boss or coworker.
  • A 20 percent man puts his own needs first. Sometimes this may make him act in ways some may deem amoral.
  • A 20 percent man will not be made to do anything he doesn't want.
  • A 20 percent man stays fit.
  • A 20 percent man does not procrastinate.
  • A 20 percent man is wise with finances.
  • A 20 percent man does not give in to impulses
  • A 20 percent man is capable of murder to protect his loved ones.
  • A 20 percent man does not ask a woman permission for anything.
  • A 20 percent man marches to the beat of his own drum. He is not influenced by society. He is not a sheep. He is a wolf.

**This is more a list for me than for you. A list to remind me of a man I want to become. I hope you benefit as well.

-Fin.
 
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*sigh*

I get your point, but your premise can't be right. 20% of men do not fvck 80% of women, and my point isn't about the exact number just to be clear. I would rather believe it's split more evenly than that, like 20% of guys fvck 20% of women. Basically 20% of people are promiscuous, which would in fact be a pretty large number anyways.

I would also say 80% of people do what you think only 20% of guys do. If most people didn't we would still be in the fvcking dark ages. I think 20% of people do what you think 80% does too, bad apples are the exception and not the rule.

The men you describe in your 20% category can't possibly fvck around a lot. How would they find time for it when they gotta handle all that?
 

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*sigh*

I get your point, but your premise can't be right. 20% of men do not fvck 80% of women, and my point isn't about the exact number just to be clear. I would rather believe it's split more evenly than that, like 20% of guys fvck 20% of women. Basically 20% of people are promiscuous, which would in fact be a pretty large number anyways.

I would also say 80% of people do what you think only 20% of guys do. If most people didn't we would still be in the fvcking dark ages. I think 20% of people do what you think 80% does too, bad apples are the exception and not the rule.

The men you describe in your 20% category can't possibly fvck around a lot. How would they find time for it when they gotta handle all that?
Can you elaborate a little more? I dont really understand your point, and I do not mean to say that in a backhanded way.

You can not convince me that certain men have sex and furthermore attract women effortlessly, compared to others. You can also not convince me that many women would rather go through great lengths to be with these men than to date their(80% men) orbiters.
I have seen this in effect.

Also the 20% man would have time to deal with women in the same way you would have time to play video games.. its something to do when its nothing more important to do.

Most importantly, you can not convince me some men can have a harem of 8-10 women that will come when he calls and another can struggle to secure even one.

And as far as my list being backwards you are wrong. People are lazy as f#ck. The majority of people go to work 8.5 hrs, come home, eat and watch hours of TV till bed.
You can not convince me otherwise. As nightly tv ratings can confirm this.
 
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cola is right and this is a good post.

20% of the men ARE having 80% of the sex. I have no doubt that that's true. What makes that claim unbelievable is when you talk to guys it seems harder to find an 80% man than a 20% man because most men are braggadocious tools with an inflated ego and irrational confidence (on the surface anyway, deep down these are the most insecure men out there). So for example, if you polled 1000 men, virtually all would tell you they've been with a lot of women. 200 are telling the truth, the other 800 are inflating their numbers exponentially.

Only problem with the post is there are too many criteria to meet, I don't think there is a 20% man that meets all those standards. What you're describing is Christian Grey. My opinion of a 20% man is as follows.

1. A man with his own QUALITY apartment.
2. A QUALITY car to get around.
3. A career that allows him extra money to do as he pleases
4. Works out
5. Has at least one hobby on his day off

A 5 year plan, perfect grooming rules for himself, take no prisoners attitude, are all bonuses. If you've got all those things PLUS the top 5 i listed, you aren't a 20% man, you're a 3% man.
 
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BlueAlpha1 said:
1. A man with his own QUALITY apartment.
2. A QUALITY car to get around.
3. A career that allows him extra money to do as he pleases
4. Works out
5. Has at least one hobby on his day off
I understand
No man is going to have everything on my list. My list is something to strive for. A shoot for the moon, miss and still be amongst the stars kind of thing.
Thank you for the input.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

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@cola I would be surprised if 20% of men fvcked 80% of women. A so-called 20% man could easily never run out of new women when fvcking just 20% of women. That 20% portion of women might fvck a ton of guys. So as I said, it could be 20% of people (both genders) having a lot of sex with each other.

So what I'm saying is that 20% people (not just guys) fvck around a lot. So it wouldn't be that unbelieveable to think 20% of men have more sex than the rest, but certainly not with 80% of women.

What you're proposing means that every guy in the 20% group fvcks 4 different women in the 80% of women group. Leaving all the 80% of women to be fvcked by one man in the 20% group. You see the error in calculations here? We all know women fvck a lot more than just one guy.

Basically what you're saying is that 20% percent of men have 4 times as many partners as 80% of women. That's just crazy to believe.

Do the math and you'll see.
 
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@Grewd I don't understand why the 80/20 rule is so shocking to you.
If im not mistaken its scientific backing to this. Its not something I made up.
 

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@Grewd I don't understand why the 80/20 rule is so shocking to you.
If im not mistaken its scientific backing to this. Its not something I made up.
Please present it, I'd love to have a look at that research.

Btw, nice job just bypassing all my solid arguments.
 

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I want to be a 4% person man..... never have to worry about woman, money, power, security, career ever again.... what's a 4% man? He's the top 20% of the 20% ;).... where the real money is

How?

Devotion
Ambition
Action over Words
Health
Attitude


Yeah Grewd... its a real law of number... proven many times in different fields... I doubt however women might apply (20% getting 80%.... your heart would explode :p)
 
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Please present it, I'd love to have a look at that research.

Btw, nice job just bypassing all my solid arguments.
Have you not heard of hypergamy? All women want to date up. I mean this is red pill 101..
 

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Pareto principle.
That's a concept, I was asking for the research saying that concept applies to what we're talking about. I have done some searching and have not come by any reliable sources, just a bunch of assumptions and opinions.
 

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That's a concept, I was asking for the research saying that concept applies to what we're talking about. I have done some searching and have not come by any reliable sources, just a bunch of assumptions and opinions.
Me either. I can go off life experience and tell you that there is a type of man who gets a much higher percentage of women than the average though. I don't claim to be one but ive met them.
 

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Me either. I can go off life experience and tell you that there is a type of man who gets a much higher percentage of women than the average though. I don't claim to be one but ive met them.
That is an entirely different statement though. Life experience is a poor basis for statistics.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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There is no statistic saying majority of women are bat sh*t crazy either but we know from life experience its a valid statement.
Then your life experience is very different from mine, because in my experience the minority of women are bat sh!t crazy. Either that or I'm bat sh!t crazy too.

Just because you can't handle them doesn't mean they're crazy, it could just as well mean you're incompetent.
 

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@cola I would be surprised if 20% of men fvcked 80% of women. A so-called 20% man could easily never run out of new women when fvcking just 20% of women. That 20% portion of women might fvck a ton of guys. So as I said, it could be 20% of people (both genders) having a lot of sex with each other.

So what I'm saying is that 20% people (not just guys) fvck around a lot. So it wouldn't be that unbelieveable to think 20% of men have more sex than the rest, but certainly not with 80% of women.

What you're proposing means that every guy in the 20% group fvcks 4 different women in the 80% of women group. Leaving all the 80% of women to be fvcked by one man in the 20% group. You see the error in calculations here? We all know women fvck a lot more than just one guy.

Basically what you're saying is that 20% percent of men have 4 times as many partners as 80% of women. That's just crazy to believe.

Do the math and you'll see.
Cola and Grewd, the truth is that you both are partially correct. With the 80/20 rule, where I believe Cola has it wrong is when he says that 20% of the men are FVCKING 80% of the women.

- What should be said instead is that 20% of men are attractive to 80% of women.

- Just like 20% of women are attractive to 80% of men.

This does NOT mean, however, that 20% of men are fvcking 80% of women because like Grewd said the numbers, the time in the day, etc., just don't add up. Plus humanity wouldn't be the way it is today if 20% of men got 80% of the women.

For all of the talk of how the so called AFC/blue pill/beta male is such a "pvssy" on this website, the reality is that the vast majority of the male population falls into this category and women are dating, sleeping with, and procreating with these men all day long.

Now, would I rather be the red pill/DJ/alpha male guy? Of course. Life is much more enjoyable and you get higher quality women (I didn't say high quality women, just higher quality) versus being the alternative.
 

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Then your life experience is very different from mine, because in my experience the minority of women are bat sh!t crazy. Either that or I'm bat sh!t crazy too.

Just because you can't handle them doesn't mean they're crazy, it could just as well mean you're incompetent.
Don't know your background. Im 27 single living in Baltimore City, population of 700,000 and 2/3rds of the women i've are bat **** crazy.

As far as my competency I guess thats a matter of opinion.

Tenacity said:
- Just like 20% of women are attractive to 80% of men.
Only 2 out of 10 women are attractive to 80% of men? Seems a bit off.
 

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Very similar to hunting and fishing.... Those that put in the sacrificing prep/scouting work get most of the game. It is hard and takes time but in the end it makes all the difference.
 
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