Why You Should Love & Respect Women (Even the Sh1tty Ones)

3agle 3yes

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...Do you forgive the woman who treated you like garbage and tortured you by exploiting your weaknesses, or you toss her away because she showed you where you need to fix yourself?...
I can't speak for the op because I didn't write this thread but you might be taken this a bit too literally.

I personally think op should've worded his title and post better though.

It's more about learning from your mistakes and setbacks, no woman is rejecting you so you can improve, she's rejecting you because she thinks you're a loser.

That's one issue I have (mini rant), I have heard many guys (even some friends) say we should not be judgmental with women...I don't see why not, women judge us all the time and RIGHTLY so.

Anyway, I don't think op wants us to invite the person who stole our wallet for dinner (using your example).

It's more like:

The price you pay making your mistakes is always considerably less than the lessons you will learn from it.
 
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I can't speak for the op because I didn't write this thread but you might be taken this a bit too literally.
I completely understand the point of the original post. It's very true and makes a good point.

The thing is, it really struck a cord with me. There's a really thin line between hating the woman who served you your insecurities on a plate, and loving the woman because she helped make you a better person. Where do you sit when you fix those insecurities and she comes back wanting to "try things again"?
 

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I completely understand the point of the original post. It's very true and makes a good point.

The thing is, it really struck a cord with me. There's a really thin line between hating the woman who served you your insecurities on a plate, and loving the woman because she helped make you a better person. Where do you sit when you fix those insecurities and she comes back wanting to "try things again"?
Why try it again with her, when she was provent to exploit some insecurities. All women won't do that, but many will like little rats going after cheese. How has she helped him?
 

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...Where do you sit when you fix those insecurities and she comes back wanting to "try things again"?
I see nothing wrong with it, but I wouldn't treat her any different to any other woman.

I say this having never been in this situation before though.
 

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Where do you sit when you fix those insecurities and she comes back wanting to "try things again"?
You don't. Anytime a girl leaves you for any length of time, your SMV's increased and hers has decreased. Literally no reason to get back with her other than emotional baggage (i.e. you didn't resolve the issues that bound you to her the first time around). Only exception I'd make is that if you broke up with her (for reasons unrelated to her level of respect for you) or did something that sent her into full-on autorejection (acted like a jackass). Basically, if you were alpha all the way through then I'd consider getting back together if she was 100% exceptional (and still well under 25)--just part of the emotional rollercoaster (for her--not you).

I can't speak for the op because I didn't write this thread but you might be taken this a bit too literally.

I personally think op should've worded his title and post better though.
Probably. Just a thought experiment--but it's a mindset I've been testing out. Most of us live in a scarcity of love--and our love of other people is highly conditional and probably codependent. So when we meet a girl who has X, Y, and Z characteristics (or portrays those characteristics convincingly) to the extent that we feel 'love' for her, she becomes the only object through which to experience the love of the feminine and we value her more because we valued her in the first place. Does that make sense? Or you choose not to love at all--and you suppress that aspect of your personality and cut and run at the first tinge of 'losing frame.'

But what keeps us from loving and respecting women on a macro level? Fear. Judgement. The misguided expectation that they're supposed to act and think like men and to live by codes of honor, loyalty, reciprocation, etc., which were created by men for men. Women only live by those codes to the extent that they've been conditioned by a strong masculine presence and face social repercussions for being found not to live up to those standards. They're reactive to their environment--if you think we need to hold them accountable well...you were sold a lie about what a woman was in the first place.

But love is awesome. Imagine a world where nothing a woman could do could hurt you or upset your peace of mind (which is the end game of inner game). Why not love? And by love, I don't mean commitment; I don't mean giving away your time and attention; I mean a feeling of good will, full acceptance, and even appreciation. You can give those things unconditionally, at no personal cost--and women will tell you all sorts of sh1t when they can tell you 100% 'get them,' as they are, without fear of judgement. Probably the quickest & most accurate way to screen for mileage.

@Poon King Expectations=/=Standards. Standards are what you will/won't put up with; expectation is the default belief that people will/should adhere to those standards (hint--they usually won't, which can result in unnecessary frustration, anger, disappointment, pain, resentment). I let people show me who they are and bring them into my life or push them out of my life accordingly; I expect nothing--still love them, but at that point it's practical measure.
 

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Respect is earned not given on a silver platter.
 

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The reason most men have no idea how to love and respect themselves is because most men look primarily towards outside factors to define themselves = cars, money, jobs, woman, etc. These are all shallow props. Men who craft a solid identity that is not based on outside things will naturally develop a strong ego and self love. Props like cars, money, jobs and hot women are the icing on the cake. However, they should not be the cake itself. Too many men make those things the cake. It comes from not thinking critically and getting too many cues from the media.
What do you suggest crafting a solid identity on then? Values, morals, beliefs?
 
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