AlexLefty’s 3 Month Vegas Immersion Journal of Awesomeness

[AlexLefty1]

What if YOU could dedicate all of your time to learning game?*

Hey guys, my name is Alex. I’m new to the forum (kind of, I posted in the HS section years ago) but not to game (at least the theory). Game and the study of social dynamics have been active interests of mine ever since I stumbled upon them in this forum nearly 6 years ago.

Anyways, my friend and I traveled to Las Vegas to answer the above question*. Basically, we took a 3 month leave of absence from ordinary life to game, full immersion style, in one of the greatest game cities on earth.

My goal with this journal is to create a documentation of my successes and failures during our escapade, and to share them with you. I hope that we can all use this as a resource to share stories, advice, and to learn. I will post as often as I can, but I’m not going to create a specific schedule just yet. Right now we’re finalizing our housing situation and should be moved into an apartment complex within 1 mile of the strip by Monday.

Quick Facts about Me:
Age: 22
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Height: 5’4
Body Type: Toned
Experience: Casual, on and off for 6 years. Except for a 1 month immersion period two summers ago in San Diego (I saw very real results and was even getting laid by the end of the month, but those gains have completely left me at this point.)
Misc: Majoring in Entrepreneurship (have 3 classes left which I’m finishing in the fall.)

Overall, I’m excited to begin this journey and meet those of you who are also living in Vegas. Because one thing is for sure, we’re tearing the strip down this summer!

Talk to you soon,

-Alex

 

[AlexLefty1]

Welcome to the boards Alex.

I'm planning a trip to Vegas this summer. Never been.

Thanks man, great to be here! Dude you have to go. Words cannot describe how great this place is for game; it's literally the mecha. I'm sure you know this, just as I did, but it's a whole different story once you actually get down here. The abundance of hot girls, literally 24/7, is insane.


Night 1 – 5/21/16

Ok, so we hit up the strip for our first night in Vegas and damn it was rough haha. It’s a funny thing because you don’t really realize how stifled you are everyday of your life until you commit to doing actual cold approaches. Seriously, it felt like my entire world was turning upside down and a whole new dimension of reality was revealing itself to me.

Our goal was simple: do 3 approaches. Eventually we set a 6 minute time limit, and if you failed you had to immediately drop to the ground and do pushups. I’m happy to say that we reached our goal. My first two opens were short and terrifying. On my last open, I stopped a two set and immediately choked on my words for about 30 seconds, literally mumbling and stuttering nonsense, until I could actually produce an intelligible sentence. It was ****ing insane and the girls were just looking at me like “what the ****, can you even speak English?” But I hung in there and it turned into a nice 15 minute set with a solid number close. It just goes to show that the open really doesn’t matter (even if you’re so nervous that you can’t even speak real words.)

Overall, a solid, albeit terrifying, first night. I can really feel the macro momentum going. I’ll be hitting up the strip again for some day game within the next 12 hours. See you guys there!

P.s. What are your suggestions for clubs? And what is the best way to go about gaming for locals?

-Alex

 

[marmel75]

Alex, this is awesome!

My advice on clubs is to watch out for the hot chicks that are actually hookers in disguise. They seem to be all over the place there...

It makes it worse because you'll be doing really well in your mind, get the chick up to your room thinking you are about to get laid and they'll hit you with the "You know this isn't free" line once down to their bra and panties...happened to my boy about 10 years ago...chick wanted $300...he threw her ass out. You just wasted 2+ hours of your time for nothing....

I know people do get laid there since there are tons of tourists, but watch out for the hookers because even though it's technically illegal in city limits, they are there in force...

 

[skinnyguy]

I'll be in vegas in two weeks. I thought about doing the 3 month immersion thing but 1)that kind of pickup only works in vegas and 2) I want to do things other than think about women all day.

There's actually very few hookers at the clubs. I'm really looking forward to the day clubs particularly Drai's beach club and Marquee.

My friends are crazy and obsessed with pickup so I'm sure I'll have fun. We will be drinking for 72 hours straight.

 

[TenOfSpades]

LMFAO this is going to fail.

Vegas is the worst place to pick up. Too many working girls.

 

[MrWiggles]

Go for girls in groups when they break away from the group. If you see a hot girl sitting on a slot by herself or something she is probably working. Oh and herpes is for life

 

[AlexLefty1]

Alex, this is awesome!

My advice on clubs is to watch out for the hot chicks that are actually hookers in disguise. They seem to be all over the place there...

It makes it worse because you'll be doing really well in your mind, get the chick up to your room thinking you are about to get laid and they'll hit you with the "You know this isn't free" line once down to their bra and panties...happened to my boy about 10 years ago...chick wanted $300...he threw her ass out. You just wasted 2+ hours of your time for nothing....

I know people do get laid there since there are tons of tourists, but watch out for the hookers because even though it's technically illegal in city limits, they are there in force...

Haha thanks for the advice man!

I'll be in vegas in two weeks. I thought about doing the 3 month immersion thing
If it fits with your life goals you should definitely do it dude! Brandon and I have been here for less than 72 hours and I can already feel a deep level change within me.

but 1)that kind of pickup only works in vegas and
I'm not sure what you mean by this, can you please elaborate?

2) I want to do things other than think about women all day.
Fair enough. I enjoy being obsessive about a narrow set of topics, so it's perfect me

There's actually very few hookers at the clubs. I'm really looking forward to the day clubs particularly Drai's beach club and Marquee.
So how do you get into these day clubs, preferably for free? Do you have to get on the guest list or do you just show up? Also, what are the best day clubs here, in your opinion?

My friends are crazy and obsessed with pickup so I'm sure I'll have fun. We will be drinking for 72 hours straight.

LMFAO this is going to fail.

Vegas is the worst place to pick up. Too many working girls.
Whut? I vehemently disagree

Go for girls in groups when they break away from the group. If you see a hot girl sitting on a slot by herself or something she is probably working.

Oh and herpes is for life
Haha thanks for looking out!

Day 1 - 5/22/16
Ok so Brandon and I went out around 4 for daygame on the strip. We didn't go out during the night because we had to be up by 6am to finalize our housing situation.

Approach 1: This was essentially my second time cold approaching in over a year, and **** was it rough haha. I started by instantly approaching an asian girl sitting on the steps next to Caesars Palace. Right when I went up her face was extremely concerned and she started to walk away. I stopped her, though, and said "wait, do you speak english?" She said "no" so I just ejected after that. In hindsight I probably should have stayed in as long as possible, despite the obvious language barrier. Oh well, just another lesson for next time; burn that **** to the ground!

Approach 2: My second approach was complete **** haha. Mostly because it took me an extremely long time to even do it. After approach 1 we got distracted and starting watching the Warriors OKC game in one of the casinos. This down-time really ****ed me and took me out of my zone. As a result, I became extremely stiflled and it took me like 30+ minutes to approach again. When I finally did approach it was a 2 set outside of the Wynn. They were standing looking out at the water or something. I think I said something like "hey what's up" and she was surprisingly responsive and nice. After that I made some general ****ty conversation and the girls left after like 2 minutes. It just made me realize how responsive and polite most people are. In other words, when you haven't done cold approach in a while you forget how not big of a deal it really is. I think I'm worried about interrupting or inconveniencing the girl but it's like nah, it's really not a big deal at all.

Approach 3: This one was ridiculous. I saw a one set walk out of a store and was like "I should open that" (she wasn't even that hot tbh) but just kept on walking because I was so god damn stifled and in my head. After about 15 steps I turned around like "**** I have to do it" and started running after her. But then I got nervous again, and she was walking really fast, so I just kind of slowly eased up on her. I was literally following her for like 6 minutes trying to force myself to approach. A big thing, I noticed, is that when I haven't cold approached in a while I become really aware and scared of the people around me. In this instance specifically, I didn't want to stop her or say "hey!" or whatever, because I didn't want to embarrass myself in front of everyone else around us. I'm hyper-aware and scared of them judging me, so I waited until there was a break in the people and I could approach her without anyone else hearing me. When I have been approaching a lot, however, I hardly even notice the other people. So the big lesson here is **** the other people around and just do it. The approach itself was ****ty, which is to be expected because of how stifled and in my head I was. However, it lasted about 3 or 4 minutes and I was actually the one who ejected.

So basically I did 3 approaches in so many hours. Obviously this is terrible, but I'm still happy with my progress. It didn't take nearly as long as last night and I wasn't as nervous either, so substantial progress is being made. My big goal right now is just to lower my time of reaction and approach in higher volume. I'm not as worried about the technical side right now as I am about simply acclimating my body to talking to random women. I can already feel myself changing and a new reality opening to me, a reality in which approaching random women at anytime of the day is normal.

Talk to you soon,
Alex

 

[MrWiggles]

Why in the world are you so nervous on all these approaches?

Also, some people get approach anxiety more than others. Not a big deal he will get over it

 

[LiveYourDream]

Consider giving yourself some ridiculously high number of cold approaches like 30 or more to do in say three hours. The goal for that set is just doing the approach itself. It's not about following up or getting laid. Doing the approach is the win. Rejection in that goal is meaningless. The approach itself is the win. The goal number needs to be so high and in a short period of time, that you are forced just find a girl, approach, find a girl, approach, find a girl, approach, over and over without thinking about it, till you have knocked out all thirty. Go do it in a location where maybe you won't be spending much time there later, if that helps. Just do it.

The whole point is to get the approach anxiety you feel to be lessened by forcing approaches, in big numbers, quick, so you get desensitized to it being a big deal or being outcome dependent. Go get 30 rejection in 3 hours and come back and boast about it. I have no doubt your approaches after that will become a whole lot easier. I suggest you do it to knock out or lower your approach anxiety rapidly, rather than spending a week or more of your limited time there in Vegas, having it lessened bit by bit.

 

[AlexLefty1]

Why in the world are you so nervous on all these approaches?
Because it's hard. After a year of intense intellectual work and no cold approaching I've fallen into standard social norms. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to push through and get past it!

Good stuff man. Sometimes really focusing in on something and fully digging yourself into it is the way to find the error in your ways. Now, there's zero margin for excuses, you just have to get up and do it. Nice.
Thanks man I appreciate that! Also awesome username haha

Also, some people get approach anxiety more than others. Not a big deal he will get over it
Thanks dude. Staying positive. It's already getting exponentially easier

Go get 30 rejection in 3 hours and come back and boast about it
This is ****ing awesome. I think I've known I should be doing this all along but have procrastinated it. I'll do this 100% on either Tuesday or Wednesday. Thanks for the suggestion and your inspiration *wo*man

Day 2 - 5/23/16
Walked the strip today and did a couple hours of day game. Did some approaches that were exponentially better than the previous 2 days. I also did more of them and quicker. I put a lot of focused effort on lowering my time of reaction which really helped. Even though my approach numbers are low without much depth, I'm honestly feeling rapid improvement -- I think the skills I learned two summers ago in my previous immersion period are coming back.

Approach 1: Brandon and I went to the UNLV library in the morning to get some essentials done. Right when I sat down I saw this cute girl and was like "**** this is what I'm here for I better do it." Again, I really tried to lower my time of reaction and just approached right away. It was more of an informational approach and I went in friend to friend instead of man to woman, but overall a good warmup set.

Approach 2: Saw another girl in the library and went for it. I tried to go with more of a man to woman frame but she was married. Thus, we just had a nice 10 - 15 minute conversation about Vegas and things to do here, etc. I added in some teasing and playful banter as well (to the best of my abilities) which really helped get some of the rust off of my wit. I can feel my witty and comical side returning. Got her number and might go out with her and her friends this weekend to some clubs. If it works out it will be nice to have a female friend here and develop some social proof early. Overall this was really good practice just having a conversation like a normal human being (if this sounds weird just remember that I've literally become introverted as **** over the past year, even to the point where it was hard to look strangers in the eyes and say hi to random people...so it was really good.)

Approach 3: Happened to see this hot girl going to her car as we were leaving the library and I almost instantly approached. Now that I think about it, this was a huge deal because my time of reaction was almost 0. I literally saw the girl, said alright I'm going to approach that, and ran after her. The interaction itself was bad, but I was able to throw in some witty banter and what not, I just couldn't keep it going. It lasted about 2 minutes.

Approach 4: This is when we were walking the strip. I actually didn't approach on this one though. We set a time limit of 6 minutes to approach or you have to do pushups in front of everyone -- I did the pushups. It's crazy how I was all about approaching earlier in the day, but then got stifled at this point.

Approach 5: About 15 minutes after approach 4. Saw a girl and immediately turned around and started walking her and talking. It was great because my time of reaction was low. I even practiced a some kino (which I need to do a lot more). I was pretty witty and everything but I kind of ran out of stuff. She was also with her family (turned out she was only 18) and her mom dragged her away. Tried to number close but she wouldn't give it.

Approach 6: Two hot girls walked by me. I said "I should approach". I didn't. They kept walking. Brandon said "yo go do it, now! Now! Now!" I turned around and chased them down. It was ok. She immediately **** tested by saying don't you have friends to be with, or something like that. I responded by exaggerating it and saying no because I was homeless and a loser, etc.. Overall it lasted about 2 minutes, and I could feel that I was so very close to reaching the social hook point and getting them to actually interact with me, for real, but I couldn't hit it. The convo fizzled out and they made excuses to go. Tried to get the number but failed. Still, I'm glad I did it and it helped increase my wit.

Overall: That's all I did today. Again, I know these are not impressive numbers or interactions, but, hell, it's hardly been 72 hours since I started cold approaching again after a relapse into extreme introversion. So, I'm very happy with my progress -- mostly because I feel deep inner change occurring. For example, I don't really have a sinking feeling in my stomach, perspiration, or a general feeling of death before I approach anymore. Now, I'm not approaching mostly just because I've built the habit of not approaching.

However, I do acknowledge the need for faster results. Thanks to @LiveYourDream 's suggestion I'm going to go for 30 approaches in 3 hours either tomorrow or the next day. Once I can just lower my overall approach anxiety I can start to focus on the more technical aspects of game. So I'm really excited to try and hammer it out as quickly as possible.

Thanks guys, talk to you soon
Alex

 

[AlexLefty1]

@AlexLefty1 are you the guy in your avatar? No homo here but you're a good looking guy, you shouldn't be having that much resistance.
Yeah I am. Thank you, I appreciate that. Haha I guess it just goes to show how powerful getting shoved into your head actually is.
Also, @LiveYourDream is a woman. She's cool though.
Thanks, fixed

 

[AlexLefty1]

@AlexLefty1 have you had a successful approach yet?
I think so. But how do you define successful?

 

[AlexLefty1]

Kiss close? Instadate?
None yet! But it will come.

Day 3 - 5/24/16
Did like 6 approaches I think? They're getting better and I can feel my social intuition improving. Working hard right now on: lowering time of reaction, strong ec, breaking rapport tonality, and plowing.

Day 4 - 5/25/16
Only went out for about an hour and did 3 approaches. Basically same thing as Day 3.

Most importantly, today marked a significant win for life in general. @Slammin' Brandon had a great job interview for a financial analyst position. Then, after said interview, a company he applied to last Saturday called him back and said they were very interested.

Additionally, we finally got a place within a mile of the strip. I'm not sure if I mentioned this earlier, but we basically moved down here, like a ****ing boss, without anyplace to live. We've been Airbnbing it for the past week while vigorously looking and hoping to find a place to live. Literally, we didn't have a place to live and Brandon didn't even have a job lined up when we got here. But, we trusted that we could make it work and it seems like we are doing just that. While Brandon was at his interview I went down to the apartment complex we've been trying to get into and hard negotiated my way through. I had to pay our entire rent upfront and in-full, but now we have a home.

Now that the essentials are starting to get handled, a huge weight is being lifted off our chests. Now, we can focus on pick up even more intensely.

Going forward:
The short-term plan for pickup is to do 50 approaches each in 3 hours tomorrow (thanks to @LiveYourDream for the boss suggestion). Then hit the clubs this weekend for the first time. Wish me luck

Talk to you soon,
Alex

 

[Mr Wright]

Inspiring stuff. I read this thread on my way to work and it kicked my butt into gear. I went out and did a few street approaches for the fist time in what seems like years during my lunch break. Damn it was fun and fücking nerve wracking at the same time, pushing yourself to talk to women without hiding behind a screen or alcohol is a real test of character. Nothing solid came of it today but we'll see what happens tomorrow. Keep it up buddy.

 

[LiveYourDream]

@AlexLefty1 If you bypassed doing the 30 approaches, there is no judgement here. It was only an idea. Be you and embrace your journey, as it is right for you.

 

[AlexLefty1]

Inspiring stuff. I read this thread on my way to work and it kicked my butt into gear. I went out and did a few street approaches for the fist time in what seems like years during my lunch break. Damn it was fun and fücking nerve wracking at the same time, pushing yourself to talk to women without hiding behind a screen or alcohol is a real test of character. Nothing solid came of it today but we'll see what happens tomorrow. Keep it up buddy.

Hell yeah man! I'm so honored to have inspired that sort of action in you. It really does test what your made of, and grinds your face in the dirt to make you better. Have you kept up with it, and how are you doing now? Also, awesome Hank Moody avatar picture, I love that show.

@AlexLefty1 If you bypassed doing the 30 approaches, there is no judgement here. It was only an idea. Be you and embrace your journey, as it is right for you.

Thank you. You are by far one of the nicest and most supporting human beings ever. And are really a large reason why this forum is so goddamn accepting and joyful. But, read on to see what happened with the 30 approaches challenge!

Ok so it's almost 6am here and I'm still up, meaning that I'm going to try and make this short, and numerous gramatical and spelling errors are sure to follow.

Life Update
The crib is basically set up! We got an awesome place a mile from the strip and UNLV. It took about 2 full days of nonstop work to get everything organized though. We had to buy a microwave and do all the shopping and little **** that kills mens' souls. We also bought this huge ass whiteboard that takes up our entire wall to plot **** and take notes, it's ****ing awesome. We also finally got our internet set up. It appeared that only one of us would have access to the internet because of the way it's setup here, but thanks to some voodoo router wifi magic we got up and running about 2 days ago. I've been meaning to post since that time -- which is why I'm staying up and straining my eyes to do so now.

The long and short of it is that things are basically all the way complete, and I'm very close to being able to have a daily routine that involves lots of boss and pimp ass **** (because our days have been mostly scattared and full of tumour causing errands since we got here). We went from moving down here blind (and homeless), to having a place that is perfectly located, and meets our budget and saftey requirments in less than a week. Then, we got all moved in and settled in about 2 days. It's been extremely stressfull because I just want to go out and pimp it, but we've had to dedicate precious hours to life stuff in order to get things done this quickly. I'm happy with it, though, and glad we spent so much time on this stuff in the begining.

Previous Goals Update
So we wanted to do 30 approaches in 3 hours, but never got around to it. I think the most we were able to dedicate was an hour, and I was able to get 11, which is technically on par with the 30 in 3 hours goal

Tonight Field Report (very cool!)
It was a very interesting night. We arrived to the strip late at around 11pm. However, we pretty much had everything planned out so there was very little time wasted on useless deliberation. The goal was to open 50 sets in an hour.

Right when we got to our spot we started the timer. It took me a couple minutes to actually get into set, but after I opened a few the ball just started rolling, kind of. It's a very weird psychological process where you have to "pop the cherry" in order to get into it. But, after you pop it and get some success there's a tendancy to want to stop because you don't want to get rejected and thus bring down your emotional high. So my frequency of approaches followed a continues sin curve patter throughout the hour.

In total, I opened 25 sets in an hour, about two hours actual when counting conversation time. One single set lasted about 30 minutes and went especially well. I did a good amount of banter and teasing, but perhaps not enough kino. She said from the very start that she wasn't going to kiss me, but I tried a few times throughout the interaction anyways. Got the number and set up a day two for tomorrow around noon, and as I left I went in for a kiss again but she turned her head. So I said the classic "you know the movie twilight? That reminds me of us", and went for the neck bite. She was very receptive. Overall, this was the first set that I knew I passed the sexual hook with.

Approaching that many sets so rapidly was difficult and created a significant rise in my stress levels. But, it's definitely possible to open 50 sets in an hour out here. I'm confident I can do it next time.

So we got home around 2am and a set that I opened two days ago whose name I didn't even save in my phone started texting me back. Eventually I was able to decipher her as this Korean exchange student girl that I opened a couple days ago. She agreed to meet up so I picked her up at her hotel and we drove around for a bit, went to Denny's, and then I dropped her off back at her place. She spoke English well, but in a very broken manner akin to a 1st or 2nd grader, so communication was sort of difficult. The goal was obviously to pull, but the language and cultural barrier (being much more conservative in Korea) proved to be huge obstacles. Thus, why I brought her to Denny's. Was able to pull a kiss/makeout thing when I dropped her off, but couldn't get back into her room. She was very bad at kissing and I honestly wasn't even that attracted to her at this point. But, in hindsight, I think I should have escalated and emphasized more kino and pure human emotion to overcome the language barrier. I'm sure it was possible to pull, I just wasn't able to. Good reference experience though.



Overall thats it! I'm going to bed now haha

Talk to you soon,
Alex

 

[MrWiggles]

Where are you doing these approaches, on the street or in casinos? I am heading to Vegas this weekend, mostly to gamble and drink and have a good time.

 

[AlexLefty1]

Where are you doing these approaches, on the street or in casinos? I am heading to Vegas this weekend, mostly to gamble and drink and have a good time.

Mostly the strip. The most dense places are outside of Caesars Palace the Linq, and planet hollywood/aria area. Nice, what do you play? Holdem', blackjack?

 

[MrWiggles]

Usually just Craps and the occasional black jack but that just sucks money from me. It is pretty easy to approach in a casino as well if you are playing or even if you are not and just pretend to be playing.

 

[macallik]

Good to see you pushing through the fear AlexLefty1. I really think you should read Rushing Dude's approach journal as an example of how someone got really good really quickly through repetition.

One thing I want to point out is that you don't appear to have a goal outside of approaching. You want to have an end goal to each approach whether it is to link up later at night at a club, insta-date or just try and smash them the same night. When I was on the strip approaching, the goal was to link up and party or pre-game together and when I was at the club, it was strictly to come back to the house for drinks. Reminding yourself what your end-goal is allows you to have a bit more structure and a method to your madness so that you aren't flailing as much in the wind in your approaches. When you mentally know that your goal is to grab drinks with her later for example, you can ask yourself whether what you are saying makes her more likely or less likely to grab drinks. If it is less likely, then just don't say/do it.