10 SJW Myths That Will Not Die

[EyeBRollin]

Yup. EyeBRollin has been thoroughly shredded by 3-4 different people in this thread and still wants to scurry back to BLM for more talking points before coming back for more beatings.

Aww, do you need to declare victory to give yourself a pat on the back?

He might be a "civil engineer", but it's apparent he never took a debate class.

I've got the degree and certification to match. What you got?

Dhoulmagus quit while he wasnt so far behind days ago...

Or he was busy, like I was most of this week.

 

[EyeBRollin]

1. A loss does not get socialized unless society has paid for a loss.

We would be when UPS went under, just how we bailed out the banks when they failed, GM, the airlines, etc. UPS cannot survive without the Post Office.

2. Keeping the most qualified from getting a job based on the color of their skin is institutional racism. End of story.

Did it ever occur to you that they're not the most qualified for a job?

3. You said all of those items would "fix" the alleged white privilege and racism, yet nothing in your list had anything to do with blacks having responsibility for their predicament. Therefore your argument is blacks have no responsibility for where the are, only whites do.

That's a simplistic logical premise, but I'd expect nothing more from you. Structural changes presented by me help everyone reach a level of dignity and parity. Health Care should have nothing to do with your race. Do you disagree?

4. Racism does not have to be institutionalized to be racism. Keep making $hit up though, like a typical SJW.

That was NOT my argument.

I'm going to keep score of all your fabricated arguments.

 

[Tictac]

Sounds like you don't understand the Law of Conservation of Energy.

Sounds like you don't either beyond typing words and thinking they 'explain' anything.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I'm becoming ignorant by continuing to have a discussion with you.

You'll be ignorant long after this conversation finishes.

If I stated a FACT such as 2 + 2 = 4, instead of responding saying YES Tenacity you have a point because 2 + 2 does in fact equal 4.....instead you would respond with the following:

"Tenacity, okay but why does 2+2 = 4? Who established the rules that 2+2 = 4? You are looking at the equation through the eyes of (insert a term related to the white man holding blacks down here), 2 doesn't even equal 2 Tenacity, so how could 2+2 = 4? Tenacity you need to wake up."

No you're applying a quantitative approach to a quantitative discussion. We both acknowledged that the data YOU presented was CORRECT. Your interpretation of that data was radically different than mine. Black men DO commit much more crime per capital than white men. So what? Why does that happen? If your argument is that black men are pre-disposed to committing crime, that is a racist argument (taking the dictionary definition of racism)

For pages and pages on end, this is how you respond to FACTS I post. We can't have a god damn discussion like this. Either I'm being trolled or you are so much of a FAR LEFT socialist/liberal SJW, that the only thing that matters is the message and narrative you want to promote..........data, facts, logic and common sense do not apply to your reasoning. IF the group wants to promote that black people are held down by whites, that's what's going to be promoted, TO HELL with data, facts, logic and common sense.

You don't understand the modern political axis well enough to call me a far leftist. I'm a left-libertarian. We can discuss that further if you'd like. It's a better ideology than right-wing authoritarian like yourself.

This is why this country is so divided, nobody wants to have an honest conversation anymore. Everybody just wants to get up and SPIN their narratives and talking points.....to HELL with data, facts, logic and common sense.

Factually, conservatives are proven to be wrong far more often than "liberals." Just fact check Breibart and Fox News, or any of the Republican candidates. LMAO.

2+2 only equals 4 when it's CONVENIENT for your narrative to do so. Just like you can preach personal responsibility to me when I RANT about the Job Market, but when I post Chicago Thug Violence Stats, you say nothing about their personal responsibility in the act...and only talk about how racism is making them do it.

Nope, I said the conditions of Chicago post the Great Migration fosters and perpetuates gang violence. If you think the black community can just wish millions of poverty-stricken individuals to miraculously stop committing crime, you're living a pipe dream homie.

Fvcking insane...........

Fxcking ignorant.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Sounds like you don't either beyond typing words and thinking they 'explain' anything.

What external work was done to the skyscraper between the impact and the buildings collapsing?

 

[Tictac]

What external work was done to the skyscraper between the impact and the buildings collapsing?

What potential energy loads did you analyze to reach your laughable conclusions?

 

[Tictac]

What potential energy loads did you analyze to reach your laughable conclusions?

Cat got your tongue @EyeBRollin? Can't google fast enough?

LOL

 

[Tenacity]

We both acknowledged that the data YOU presented was CORRECT. Your interpretation of that data was radically different than mine. Black men DO commit much more crime per capital than white men. So what? Why does that happen? If your argument is that black men are pre-disposed to committing crime, that is a racist argument (taking the dictionary definition of racism)

I'm going to try this one last time. Again, there are three options in terms of the data interpretation:

- Option A: The culture they are coming out of promotes this behavior as "sexy" and "cool". Drug dealing is seen as fast money and a way to not work for the "white man".

- Option B: Or, it could be that they are facing some sort of poverty situation and can't get hired into positions to make decent money. So they turn to thugging, crime and drug dealing to pay the bills.

- Option C: Or, black people are just inherently a fvcked up race of people.

I believe it's 100% Option A.

YOU believe it's a combination of Option A and Option B, but with a higher percentage leaning to Option B. So let's just say for argument sake, you believe it's 70/30 with 30% being A and 70% being B. Okay?

Now, based on you believing the data is mainly a result of said criminals having to do what they are doing due to some sort of poverty situation of not being able to get jobs.....how do you explain, once again Black America with $1.1 trillion in spending power? How can black women be the most enrolled in colleges across the country? How can we have such a strong black middle class? How can we have so many black CEOs, black millionaires, etc.? If Black America were a country, it would be between number 13 - 15 on the list of the most powerful, richest, and wealthiest nations on the planet.

- How are these other black people able to move up in the institutionalized racist America, but the black criminals are not?

- You made a comment about people starting out in life differently and with certain advantages, stats show that many blacks in college and in the middle class, DID NOT start out middle class, they came from the very poor environments where a lot of the black criminals came from. The difference is that these blacks did not choose thugging/drug dealing as a way to "make it", they worked 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs, went to school at night, and moved up that way. That's what the data and report shows. A lot of them also waited to have kids until they were settled.

- You made a comment saying the success performance numbers were proportionately less than whites and how blacks were underrepresented in all of the mentioned categories. What do you think Black America's spending power SHOULD be if there were not the theorized institutionalized racism holding them down? Instead of being $1.1 trillion, are you saying it would be $2.5 trillion? If so, why? About how many more Black CEOs and black middle class members would we have without the theorized institutionalized racism holding them down?

- A dollar stays black for 6 hours compared to other races, which means that black people are mostly doing business with other races of people. Seeing as though white people are the largest quantity of race in the country, it's SAFE to assume that the majority of black people are doing business with white people. When I say doing business, that including working for white people, working with white people, having white customers, banking with white people, getting insured by white people, using technology created by white people, using media created by white people, using marketing platforms created by white people, going to colleges that are mostly white with mostly white Professors, and so on, and so on. If we are in the theorized institutionalized racism system, where the white people are looking to hold down blacks, how is it that they are working with them in MASS numbers, contributing significantly to the $1.1 trillion in black buying power, if their goal is to HOLD THEM DOWN?

Answer these questions. Your stance of it being mostly Option B, does NOT make any sense based on these performance numbers as well as the fact that a dollar stays black for 6 hours, which means that blacks are over-whelmingly working/doing business with white people which is contributing MAINLY to the performance success of Black America. How can this shyt be happening and we be living in an theorized institutionalized racist America at the same damn time?

 

[EyeBRollin]

What potential energy loads did you analyze to reach your laughable conclusions?

The object was at rest, old chap. External work is required.

Cat got your tongue @EyeBRollin? Can't google fast enough?

LOL

Too busy closing deals this week to entertain you gentlemen

1. UPS wouldn't go under. But then that is not the point. You said they socialized losses, clearly you were wrong.

Yes they would. UPS cannot compete with USPS. That's why the lobby Congress to cripple USPS with stupid laws like the pre-funding mandate.

2. Having the affirmative action law IS institutional racism, regardless of whether some are qualified or not. The law and policy are racist against whites.

Affirmative action isn't preventing white men from holding positions of power.

3. Ah, so now you just post an ad-hominem to my point You said that would solve " white privilege", which means in your mind blacks have no responsibility for this alleged lack of privilege.

I did NOT say it would solve white privilege. Your strawman argument demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of what white privilege is. My argument was to curb the discrepancies of institutional racism.

And here you go again pulling arguments out of your ass.

4. Oh good, so you agree that affirmative action is institutionalized racism against whites.

No, I didn't.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I'm going to try this one last time. Again, there are three options in terms of the data interpretation:

- Option A: The culture they are coming out of promotes this behavior as "sexy" and "cool". Drug dealing is seen as fast money and a way to not work for the "white man".

- Option B: Or, it could be that they are facing some sort of poverty situation and can't get hired into positions to make decent money. So they turn to thugging, crime and drug dealing to pay the bills.

- Option C: Or, black people are just inherently a fvcked up race of people.

I believe it's 100% Option A.

YOU believe it's a combination of Option A and Option B, but with a higher percentage leaning to Option B. So let's just say for argument sake, you believe it's 70/30 with 30% being A and 70% being B. Okay?

Correct.

Now, based on you believing the data is mainly a result of said criminals having to do what they are doing due to some sort of poverty situation of not being able to get jobs.....how do you explain, once again Black America with $1.1 trillion in spending power?

How do you explain that equating to having half the per-capita spending power as whites?

How can black women be the most enrolled in colleges across the country?

On a per-capita basis. My hypothesis is that black women do what they have to do to make up for so many black men being incarcerated. Blacks also have the highest gender discrepancy in educational attainment.

How can we have such a strong black middle class?

We don't. Your question is based off a faulty premise. The median black household net worth is just $1,700, vs. $116,000 for whites.

How can we have so many black CEOs, black millionaires, etc.?

We don't. Only 5 of the Fortune 500 CEOs are black. That's 1%, vs. blacks making up 13% of the population. Blacks are underrepresented in corporate America. Everyone knows this.

Blacks only make up 1.4% of the top 1% families, and that is for income, not wealth.

If Black America were a country, it would be between number 13 - 15 on the list of the most powerful, richest, and wealthiest nations on the planet.

Is that with or without the U.S. Military?

- How are these other black people able to move up in the institutionalized racist America, but the black criminals are not?

I never said black people can't move up the ladder. I said it is more difficult and we are underrepresented. You seem to gloss over those facts.

- You made a comment about people starting out in life differently and with certain advantages, stats show that many blacks in college and in the middle class, DID NOT start out middle class, they came from the very poor environments where a lot of the black criminals came from. The difference is that these blacks did not choose thugging/drug dealing as a way to "make it", they worked 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs, went to school at night, and moved up that way. That's what the data and report shows. A lot of them also waited to have kids until they were settled.

While this is true, blacks are lagging behind other races in these metrics.

- You made a comment saying the success performance numbers were proportionately less than whites and how blacks were underrepresented in all of the mentioned categories. What do you think Black America's spending power SHOULD be if there were not the theorized institutionalized racism holding them down? Instead of being $1.1 trillion, are you saying it would be $2.5 trillion? If so, why? About how many more Black CEOs and black middle class members would we have without the theorized institutionalized racism holding them down?

Just smooth out the income and wealth numbers. For it to be "equal," blacks would represent 13% of CEOs, millionaires, spending power, and net worth. Obviously we have a long way to go.

- A dollar stays black for 6 hours compared to other races, which means that black people are mostly doing business with other races of people. Seeing as though white people are the largest quantity of race in the country, it's SAFE to assume that the majority of black people are doing business with white people. When I say doing business, that including working for white people, working with white people, having white customers, banking with white people, getting insured by white people, using technology created by white people, using media created by white people, using marketing platforms created by white people, going to colleges that are mostly white with mostly white Professors, and so on, and so on. If we are in the theorized institutionalized racism system, where the white people are looking to hold down blacks, how is it that they are working with them in MASS numbers, contributing significantly to the $1.1 trillion in black buying power, if their goal is to HOLD THEM DOWN?

Again this is a faulty question. The data says blacks hold significantly less wealth, opportunity, and power as other races. My theory was a combination of housing segregation, the war on drugs, racial biases in employment, property taxes funding education, the war on drugs destruction of unions, health care discrepancies, among other causes that make up institutionalized racism. What is your explanation for all those discrepancies?

Answer these questions. Your stance of it being mostly Option B, does NOT make any sense based on these performance numbers as well as the fact that a dollar stays black for 6 hours, which means that blacks are over-whelmingly working/doing business with white people which is contributing MAINLY to the performance success of Black America. How can this shyt be happening and we be living in an theorized institutionalized racist America at the same damn time?

Of course option B makes sense. There is a direct correlation between poverty and crime. You also admitted you wouldn't hire an ex-convict. You're not dissecting my argument, you're talking in circles around it without addressing any of my points. Do you not agree that poverty cause crime?

 

[Tictac]

"The object was at rest, old chap. External work is required."

An 'engineer' that doesn't know the difference between potential and kinetic energy.

Utterly hilarious.

 

[EyeBRollin]

An 'engineer' that doesn't know the difference between potential and kinetic energy.

Kinetic energy was not in my answer, old chap. An object at rest needs external work to convert gravitational potential energy to kinetic energy. You can answer my question at any time. What external work was done in the hour between collision and freefall?

 

[Tictac]

A 700 ton jet impacting at 500+ mph releasing 60,000 pounds of JP4 is 'external work' combining with potential energy sources that you cannot even name much less calculate.

 

[EyeBRollin]

A jet impacting at 500+ mph releasing 60,000 pounds of JP4 is 'external work' combining with potential energy sources that you cannot even name much less calculate.

The structures were still standing after the impact. I'll repeat the question.

 

[Tictac]

The structures were still standing after the impact. I'll repeat the question.

You are a pretender and no engineer of any kind.

'Still standing' is your most stupid argument so far. Keep making as ass of yourself . Thanks for the laughs.

 

[EyeBRollin]

You are a pretender and no engineer of any kind.

My degree is hung up in my apartment right now. Yours?

'Still standing' is your most stupid argument so far. Keep making as ass of yourself . Thanks for the laughs.

Can't answer the question? The buildings survived the 500 mph plane impact. What external work was done to the structure to convert its gravitational potential energy to kinetic energy?

 

[Tictac]

Gravitational potential was the smaller of the two PE loads Pee Wee.

You are no engineer of any kind.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Gravitational potential was the smaller of the two PE loads Pee Wee.

Did the structures freefall or were my eyes deceiving me?

 

[EyeBRollin]

1. No they would not, they would stop the service that was losing money. Moreover you stated they were socializing a loss, which they were not because no loss occurred.

Considering that their service is delivering packages, it is convenient that they don't have to actually deliver packages and rely on their competition to do so. Great business model. I guess UPS needs more corporate socialism.

2. Affirmative action is keeping white men down for the crime of being white.

Where is the evidence that white men are being kept down? White men are over represented in... everything.

3. You said that was the solution to white privilege. So yes that means you said it sould solve it.

No I did not say that.

4. Affirmative action is institutional, and it is racist against whites. Therefore it is institutionalized racism.

Where is your evidence that affirmative action is negatively affecting whites? Ironically, the largest beneficiaries of AA are white. White women.

 

[Tictac]

Did the structures freefall or were my eyes deceiving me?

If you were an engineer you would know that physics is more important than observation.

But you aren't an engineer of any kind, so you dissemble instead.