No. There is no such thing as institutional racism. There is only racism - and a great deal coming from the black community.
False. You can't speak such a claim into existence.
Individual racism affects all races. You can never change the bigotry in people's minds.
No it doesn't. How is the white person prevented from getting a job? Getting a loan? Getting convicted of something they did not commit? Attacked by police? How?
Glad you said this. Not it's not different. The people associated with institutions in place in America are mostly white, heterosexual, Christian men. The aspect of institutionalized racism you just described is power. There is no institutionalized racism against white men, because that would require a majority of the power to be in the hands of non-white men and women.
I don't know why it is that black people label someone as a Uncle Tom or Coon just because they either:
Great, now that we have defined institutionalized racism (which is to receive better treatment based on your white skin color and to receive bad treatment based on your black skin color), here's my question.
So you believe it's MORE of a situation of black people being denied opportunities, first pick at jobs, the best jobs, the best credit, the best opportunities, etc. Again, answer my question above, how does this HIGH level of Black America performance happen if this situation is true because black people are NOT just doing business with other black people? Again, they can't just be doing business with other black people because the studies show that a dollar stays black for about 6 hours.
Having a big dyck is promoted to apply disproportionately to black men as well, is that racist?
They needed to subcontract to their public-sector competitor to not realize a loss.
Absolutely not.
Nope, never said that either. Keep fabricating arguments though.
It does have to be institutionalized. Overt racism is illegal and highly scrutinized. Racism in 2016 is mostly institutionalized and subtle.
Blacks aren't liberal nor are they socialist. Blacks are actually more socially conservative than whites, and are only more favorable of welfare.
You can vote for the party that is openly racist, if you'd like. Shouldn't surprise you when blacks call you Uncle Tom though.
Not true at all. I fall into all of these, and no one ever calls me an Uncle Tom.
Why do thugs bother you so much? Did they steal all your women? Thugs are a non-factor dude. Get with it.
It's proportionately less than whites. We went over this.
Black women have their share of institutionalized issues, but they aren't in jail or dead at the rate of black men.
We don't. Underrepresented in all the mentioned categories.
....and?
It happens in spite of it.
Banned? Where the **** did I ever say this?
It's not high at all compared to other races in America. It's actually the worst... (Income might be higher than Hispanics, due to more of them being immigrants).
Huh?
He's a 9/11 Truther. All the rest is the same.
Sorry, but you're making the claim of institutional racism. I am saying there is no such thing. The onus is on you to substantiate why you believe something is true, not on me to prove a negative, which is impossible. When you tell me the tooth fairy is real, and I say no she isn't, you can't say I'm making a claim.
More vague generalities and no specifics. Qualified white people are frequently prevented from getting a job by affirmative action "institutions". Every intelligent white male knows not the answer those questionnares at the end of every job application, because they are an overt threat to his chances. And white people were killed 3-to-1 over blacks last year by police, despite blacks committing murder at a rate of 400% proportionate to the population (13% of the population, 50% of the murder)
There is nothing to understand. It's fiction, unless you're talking about racism against white males via affirmative action, which indeed is institutional.
Unless you listen to Black Lives Matter, where it's quite overt.
Another lie which stems from the fact that racism, by definition, has nothing to do with power. A couple of crackpot professors converged on that in 1970 and the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam ran with it until it went mainstream. Black (or liberal, or feminist, etc) privilege means the ability to change the definitions of words when the facts aren't on your side. By redefining the word racism and then attributing it's false definitions to an invisible series of laws that can't be identified or changed, you've done exactly what the radical feminists did when they changed the definitions of rape for the sole purpose of conducting a "study" with the intent to conclude 20% of women are victims of rape on college campus. The actual number is a fraction of 1%, but what you do is create a problem that can't be solved by identifying a boogeyman (preferably one immune to the 5 senses) and speaking in vague generalities, and you have a scapegoat with no expiration date.
You can't even respond to an argument without fabricating arguments. Strawman after Strawman after strawman.
Here you go again assuming that these two ideas are mutually exclusive. For one, Black America is NOT successful compared to other races in America.
But it does. Where does it not match up?
No false equivalencies. The other "side" doesn't acknowledge institutional racism, income inequality, climate change, corporate socialism, or that American exceptionalism is a bull**** slogan.
You blame thug culture. I blame decades of housing segregation and discrimination in the tale of two cities. Chicago is one of the most racially segregated cities in the United States. Do you know ANYTHING about American history? Are you really that ignorant? Martin Luther King said white people in the South could learn how to hate from people in Chicago. Chicago is racist as **** and always has been.
If you provide counter evidence, we know who is right. If I make an affirmative argument and your response is "prove it," what follows is continuous goalpost fallacies. Now, run along and continue being willfully ignorant. "Institutional racism" is easy to do research on.
Oh boo hooo. White male didn't get into Duke and had to go to Rutgers. Cry me a River. That's not institutional racism at all.
The country is ~70% white and ~13% black, and your complaining that whites are killed disproportionately less than blacks. Got it.
Where is the big conspiracy against white males? Everywhere I go I see white men in positions of power. Damn, 43 of the 44 Presidents were white men. Congress is 80% white and 80% men. Nearly every governor in the country is a white male. Most policemen are white males. Employers, businessmen, judges, do I need to go on? Help me understand this reality of the struggle against white men.
Yea it's racist to tell white policemen to stop killing black men. Got it.
Institutionalized racism has everything to do with power. There is none without it.
Kind of like you Trumpers with Muslims and immigrants.
Here we go again. "Research" from where? Al Sharpton's show on MSNBC or a weekly column on Salon by a black communist professor are not credible sources. I'm actually presenting data and evidence. You're speaking in subtle racist undertones.
Yes it is. Affirmative action is a process used in institutions to disseminate (read: discriminate) based on skin color. But you celebrate it, because the victim is white. I must be getting under your skin a little bit - you're reverting to a bit more overtly racist tone as you continue to lose more ground in the debate.
I'm not complaining about the 326 whites killed by cops last year. Many of them probably deserved it. What I am saying is since blacks commit a wild amount of crime proportionate to their percentage of the population, a cop is objectively more likely to shoot a white suspect first.
The struggle white men face is, as in the example you so eloquently stated above, is in the inability to go to Duke even when he qualifies. And among those whites who did sneak into Duke, the stifling of free speech on this campus and others like it by bullying gangs like Black Lives Matter. The inability to express any ethnic pride thanks to three generations of white guilt, and the inability to even have the conversation for fear of being called a racist by hustlers like yourselfWhere is the big conspiracy against white males? Everywhere I go I see white men in positions of power. Damn, 43 of the 44 Presidents were white men. Congress is 80% white and 80% men. Nearly every governor in the country is a white male. Most policemen are white males. Employers, businessmen, judges, do I need to go on? Help me understand this reality of the struggle against white men.
It's racist to claim there is an epidemic of white policemen killing black men when black men kill each other at about a 1000-to-1 ratio. It brings to the forefront of the conversation your radical tribalism. Some of your fellow black men with far better critical thinking skills than you have explained this in depth: black lives only matter in the rare event of a white perpetrator. It's your tribalism and hatred for whites that makes you believe the taking of a black life by one of them is objectively worse than the taking of a black life by one of our own.
No matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn't make it true.
You meant to say you whites again, didn't you? That's OK. Every statistic I uttered about Muslims is cold, hard, empirical data, the type of which you've presented none of in this entire thread. Notice that you couldn't dispute any of it. Just cold hard facts slapping you in the face. No exaggerations or generalities. Real numbers.
I'm becoming ignorant by continuing to have a discussion with you.
@EyeBRollin has been caught in so many gaffs, lies, reversals, hilarious conspiracy theories and low grade flaming that it's funny. Then he says he "proved his point" and says he's made his point, name calls and moves to the next pointless exercise. He declares victory and walks away like the good little narcissist he is.
That's a **** argument that I never made, and the idea is that POLICE taking the lives of black citizens is objectively worse than gang violence. Black folks hold rallies against gang violence all the time, especially in Chicago.
One small detail, you fail to mention the extreme difference in encounter rates. The average white person encounters far less black people on a daily basis than vice versa.
Congrats, you can read.
No, I specifically meant you Trumpers.
Data is data. I didn't dispute any of Tenacity's data. The differences is the conclusions draw from it. You use data to justify your bigotry.
I don't much give a damn about anyone talking back to me. The demographic wreaking most havoc on the world has been the U.S. government, through oil-imperialism.
It's funny when Trump gets his ass whopped in November. We'll declare victory then.
Sounds like you don't understand the Law of Conservation of Energy.
Where was I caught wrong? There were plenty of strawman arguments assigned to my name.
I can troll a lot harder than this. I'm actually trying to help Tenacity out. He's like a lost soul.
I generally don't **** with conservatives. They're wrong about everything. History is written by the victors, old chap.
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