Have you noticed this while "interacting" with women?

[Clueless2k16]

You notice the different behaviour in small things like when sneezing they say bless you to the attractive guy but if you sneeze its like you are not there, you dont exist, you say good morning or good afternoon to them but they dont answer back and simultaneously you notice they reply to another guy and even smile and are very nice.

You start to think at first it's all in your head, that's it's just a big coincidence, but then you notice it a lot and a lot more, you try to make small talk to these women (not teens, women from their late 20's to their 40's) and they just act oblivious towards you, some just give you weird looks like you have something wrong or have done something very wrong to them even if you didnt. It's like they hate your guts but they dont know why (or maybe they do?) and you dont know either.

I'm 39, bald (i think its a death sentence for a guy), i'm not physically fit, and i guess i'm not considered attractive, at least i've never been told that i was attractive by a woman before. So my question is are these related? they hating your guts because you are not sufficiently attractive so you deserve their attention/time?

What i've been doing is avoiding women all the time, not talking, not even being near them, it's them in their territory and me in my own world. I get along fine with guys, they treat as equal, maybe they dont see me as competition and i've made lots of male friends.

For me being in my own world, avoiding them is perfectly fine, i've been without a gf for a very long time and frankly i dont feel the need to have one, i'm even seriously thinking about permanent celibacy. If they hate my guts, if they find me repulsive or whatever even if they dont know me at all then fine, its the cards i've been handed, so ill have to play along.

It's just sometimes i wonder if im the only one feeling like this, noticing these things and anything changed in your experience to improve the situation (if you wanted to change or improve something) and what and how you did it.

I'm not anti social, im not autist, i wouldn't say i have poor social skills, because i hang around guys perfectly fine. i'm maybe just not attractive enough and that's why i'm considered as a social outcast (even if that's not how i see myself).

Even today as i left work i said goodbye see you tomorrow to a co-worker and guess what: silent treatment, it's like i'm a ghost. Next minute i see this guy greeting her and she replies.

Is it just looks? Or how you dress? How much money do you have (or they think you have) ? Is it because you exist and you shouldnt?

 

[Yewki]

i'm not physically fit

I tell you what, go lift get your diet under control and get in the best shape of your life. Then come back here in a few months and let us know about all the positive changes in your life.

 

[Clueless2k16]

I tell you what, go lift get your diet under control and get in the best shape of your life. Then come back here in a few months and let us know about all the positive changes in your life.

thanks for the tip, yet you ignored the rest of the post.

i dont think being fit is the key to their actions/reactions, i concur it can influence though.

 

[Clueless2k16]

thing is i dont show neediness, i dont make unwanted sexual advances, i just notice they hate my guts, a guy doesnt need to be overly sensitive to notice this.

 

[Building_and_Loan]

You sound like you have more of an issue with yourself. There are bald, 39 year old guys who aren't physically fit who have a ton more confidence than you do and I can guarantee plenty of women find them attractive. Work on your confidence.

Start working out, even if it's just at home. Run a few times per week. An update in your wardrobe may help too, ladies love a well-dressed man no matter your age or physical fitness.

And stop saying women hate your guts. Nobody hates your guts. Unless you're a pedophile or a terrorist, no one hates you.

 

[Tictac]

i just notice they hate my guts, a guy doesnt need to be overly sensitive to notice this.

Psychic powers are rare.

You should do a magic show.

 

[ubercat]

39 is a great time to take action you can still easily pull hot 30 year old women. Believe me at 45 + finding the ones who are still pretty is a lot harder as most have hit the wall and the pretty ones are a much smaller percentage of the general population. Can be done but requires a lot more game. Working out can be a fun interesting hobby as well. It's for yourself enjoy the challenge and the learning.

 

[Clueless2k16]

that still doesnt explain why some guys are treated like this or even worse, with lack of respect. It's like being ugly is a trait that tells women: there's a guy you can disrespect, ignore and step on

 

[Tictac]

that still doesnt explain why some guys are treated like this or even worse, with lack of respect. It's like being ugly is a trait that tells women: there's a guy you can disrespect, ignore and step on

With attitudes like yours and your imagined ability to notice that women 'hate my guts', you may as well have a 'kick me' sign pinned in your back.

It explains way more than enough.

 

[Clueless2k16]

With attitudes like yours and your imagined ability to notice that women 'hate my guts', you may as well have a 'kick me' sign pinned in your back.

It explains way more than enough.

i dont claim to have any special ability, there's no need to, their actions towards me say a lot.

maybe someone here who has been in my shoes will understand what i'm trying to explain.

 

[Tictac]

i dont claim to have any special ability, there's no need to, their actions towards me say a lot.

maybe someone here who has been in my shoes will understand what i'm trying to explain.

Since you make your own shoes, don't hold your breath.

 

[Bingo-Player]

you sound like your in your own head way too much

ok lets start at the bottom here ,

first off there is literally somebody for everybody ........you need to learn what your social market value truly is see where your at financially, physically, cosmetically etc and give yourself a realistic score ( only you can work this figure out)

now you want to look for a woman that is below this score she may be over weight she may have a sh1tty job she may be a wh1ore but this is where you must start off learning how to deal with women

a freind of mine is barely scraping 5ft and if you think being bald is a death sentence for a man then try being that short too top it off he hardly looks like brad pitt either

despite all of this he still try's because he has faith and to be fair women pick up on this and are fairly responsive

but you must learn that when your in this low type of mindset it is impossible to punch above your weight when it comes to women so you must start at the bottom

and finally

if you dont like women then how are women supposed to like you ?

 

[BetterCallSaul]

Another self-defeatist post from a new member? The problem is you OP. You want people here to post some sort of singular, magical reply that will amazingly turn your entire life around the very moment you read it.

It isn't going to happen.

What can happen is improving yourself and making real change, and you can start by getting in better shape. No, it isn't easy. If getting six pack abs and bench pressing 300lbs was easy, every guy would do it. If knocking down a seven figure salary was easy, everyone would do it. There's a reason it takes hard work: it's to separate people and to communicate to others that you strive to improve or at least do something better.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Well I guess we all know that girls are the most racist creatures in this world, they subconsciously with no conscious effort can put hundreds of me in the "no right zone" where even your basic human rights are not assured.

Op, your only options is self improvement and keep in mind that the lower your beginning position is, the more effort and risk taking has to be involved to reach a decent level.

The good thing is that you no longer feel emphaty for women in general, an amazing stepping stone to actually do your best interest.

 

[MrWood]

others have heard me dog myself in here because I have a big physical disfigurement. It is a huge influence and largely the basis of my insecurities. I have a fully paralyzed left arm and hand, it is skin and bone and flops around when I walk, it is very bad visually and kills alot of first sight attraction, esp in spring/summer outdoor events. Winter/fall I can put it in a jacket pocket.
I am 50 and bald/grey. I cant work out or go to a gym at all.

I am out of a 2yr LTR with a HB8 32yo, I dropped another HB8 37yo for her
I flirt with everything but HB5 and below
(they are fun to watch that pvssy tingle when you do and make great practice)
I ask out only HB8/9 cuz I cant find any 7's
I just got back from nailing a 44yo HB8 that I OLD for a month that didnt know about my arm until we met

It is about you. Not your 6pack
Notice I only go for HB8... and I get HB8
kinda like the Olympics... you cant get gold if you dont try for gold

 

[ZTIME]

What i've been doing is avoiding women all the time, not talking, not even being near them, it's them in their territory and me in my own world.

For me being in my own world, avoiding them is perfectly fine.

Obviously this approach is not getting you your desired result.

On a separate note; is dungeons and dragons still played in the basement or is it now socially acceptable at the kitchen table?

 

[GetFit66]

You notice the different behaviour in small things like when sneezing they say bless you to the attractive guy but if you sneeze its like you are not there, you dont exist, you say good morning or good afternoon to them but they dont answer back and simultaneously you notice they reply to another guy and even smile and are very nice.

So I've been there, it's either because of two reasons in my experience 1) Your creepy 2)Your around ****ty people.

Also if you stop and think for a minute, their behavior is rather inhumane so perhaps you should get away from them?

 

[dude99]

that still doesnt explain why some guys are treated like this or even worse, with lack of respect. It's like being ugly is a trait that tells women: there's a guy you can disrespect, ignore and step on

Only if you let them. People can only treat you like garbage if you accept it. I find treating people exactly how they treat you REALLY opens their eyes

Greet rudeness with rudeness. Great sarcasm with more sarcasm. Ignore those who ignore you.

When they ask what your deal is just ask "what do you not like being treated how you treat others? Now there is a shock."

Remember people will treat you or do to you only what you allow them to do.

 

[ubercat]

So OP right here is where you make your choice. You've just had 10 guys who are obviously experienced with woman tell you it can be done and how to start. Mr Woods beaten physical affliction to score. I m way older than you so if we can do it....

So you can choose to believe that that you know more than 10 people combined or you can choose to START.

People are telling you to work out because:

- it will naturally improve your confidence
- it's the most important thing you can do for your health
- it's a big component of your physical attractiveness that you control
- it's a positive interest that most people will share with you and you can talk about socially.

Now let me remove a few excuses for you.

You can start today with body weight exercises. No spending or equipment required. But I don't know how I hear you say.

No problem here s how:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php?threads/improve-smv.231398/
Scroll down to the fitness section. @Reykhel kindly posted an entire body weight workout.

All the exercises on that thread are very common so you can search YouTube for any you don't know how to do. If you're not willing to do that much for yourself nobody here can help you.

 

[dude99]

thing is i dont show neediness, i dont make unwanted sexual advances, i just notice they hate my guts, a guy doesnt need to be overly sensitive to notice this.

You're talking like a boxer that is telling himself he has no chance of winning before the fight even starts. Yes that figher will lose every time.

The thing women are most attracted to is confidence. A confident man who carries himself strong and doesn't give a crap about petty opinions and doesn't shrink and feel sorry for himself is someone women are drawn to.

If you shy away from women and sulk when they don't acknowledge you then they will not be drawn to you.

As the others said here get in shape. Take a dale carnige course in how to build friends and influence people. Learn to carry yourself then you will be noticed.

And lastly you set the bar as to how people treat you.