Pulling Girls Who Previously Friend-zoned You When You Were Still An AFC

[Dhoulmagus]

When a girl rejects you, she literally sees you sexually equivalent to somse fat pedo greasy looking basement nerd. There's nothing you can do about it either.

 

[bigneil]

If you truly improved, you should have evidence in the form of new women, hence the ability to dismiss former, failed relationships.

Remember: getting her back satisfies your ego, but never your spirit. It's over. Forever.

 

[yungballa]

I've never left the friend zone. I've tried multiple times, but I've never really done it.

Do I try for her validation? No. I could give a fvck about winning the girl's validation. The opinions/thoughts of me from other people are irrelevant to me. What they think of me is not my business. If anything, one of the purposes of trying to get a girl who I've been FZed by is to see if I myself can take this challenge and get this girl (mostly because I'm attracted to her!) It doesn't even have to be because I wanna tackle the challenge. If she's just attractive to me but I was somehow dumped in the FZ, I'll try to get out b/c I ain't satisfied being a friend and I'm attracted to her.

I have multiple friends who have escaped the friendzone. And to anyone who's done it... (and I mean when she considers you a FULL-ON friend, and she begins to like you after you spit game at her)... I consider you a legend, because I just have no fvcking clue how to escape the friend zone. I've tried it with multiple girls, and it's like they're either dumb asses to realize that I'm flirting with them or they just wont advance with me, or they just dont like me in that way man. Or maybe its me, and I just dont advance enough. I don't know. We'll see in the near future if I can ever escape the friend zone one day.

 

[ohrein]

I've left the friend zone multiple times. It's doable but not really worth it most of the time. Just find some other women and keep some female friends. They come in handy.

 

[EyeBRollin]

it's worth a shot.

Just hit them up, and treat them like a new chick you haven't met before. Expect **** tests everywhere, but it can work.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I've never left the friend zone. I've tried multiple times, but I've never really done it.

Do I try for her validation? No. I could give a fvck about winning the girl's validation. The opinions/thoughts of me from other people are irrelevant to me. What they think of me is not my business. If anything, one of the purposes of trying to get a girl who I've been FZed by is to see if I myself can take this challenge and get this girl (mostly because I'm attracted to her!) It doesn't even have to be because I wanna tackle the challenge. If she's just attractive to me but I was somehow dumped in the FZ, I'll try to get out b/c I ain't satisfied being a friend and I'm attracted to her.

I have multiple friends who have escaped the friendzone. And to anyone who's done it... (and I mean when she considers you a FULL-ON friend, and she begins to like you after you spit game at her)... I consider you a legend, because I just have no fvcking clue how to escape the friend zone. I've tried it with multiple girls, and it's like they're either dumb asses to realize that I'm flirting with them or they just wont advance with me, or they just dont like me in that way man. Or maybe its me, and I just dont advance enough. I don't know. We'll see in the near future if I can ever escape the friend zone one day.

Fastest way out of it is drop em and go be with some other females, or just back off on her and spend more of your time with another female. They come back sniffing around when they lose your attention. They had your attention for "free" before. You can reframe it around sex or chilling, so if it's not either she's not getting it.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I've left the friend zone multiple times. It's doable but not really worth it most of the time. Just find some other women and keep some female friends. They come in handy.

Have you ever popped yourself out of the friend zone and was able to reframe things with her having high enough interest to make it worth it? Or do they always attempt to devalue you back to how they saw you before?

 

[yungballa]

Fastest way out of it is drop em and go be with some other females, or just back off on her and spend more of your time with another female. They come back sniffing around when they lose your attention. They had your attention for "free" before. You can reframe it around sex or chilling, so if it's not either she's not getting it.

lol bro. i swear to god ive tried this already almost a thousand times over.


there was this one girl who considered me a brother (because i never really flirted with her so we just became good friends) but i started having sexual attraction towards her. i wanted to game her, so i tried as you said (got distant with her, then tried flirting with her). lmao, the dumb b1tch still wasnt tryna advance with me even after not talking to her for a while, then showing i want to be sexual with her. fvck it though, i havent seen her in like a couple months... even a while back, she texted me and was still considering me her brother... wtf..?

its almost as if they never come lookin for you, even when you fall off the map. some girls might be like "where the hell did he go?" and come up to you and start tryna talk to you again. but some girls just dont give a fvck and keep on going with there lives.

then there's another girl. she used to like me in the past. like, alot. i almost bagged her, but some other guy came in the picture and snagged her up and they started dating. then they broke up, and me and this girl started to somewhat become good friends. then, i got distant from her...and when i say i REALLY tried flirting with this girl.. I really fvcking tried, but she just keeps seeing me as a friend god damnit.

it amazes me how guys escape the friendzone. this is why i find it so much easier to game girls who ive just met, or havent seen in a veeery long time. because if ive known the girl for a while and she sees me as a friend, its haaaard for me to bring out her interest in me.

 

[ohrein]

Have you ever popped yourself out of the friend zone and was able to reframe things with her having high enough interest to make it worth it? Or do they always attempt to devalue you back to how they saw you before?

The interest is easy, particularly if you're close friends. It's getting the attraction up that's hard. If you really want to go this route that's all you need to be thinking. Attraction. You have to very slowly generate attraction all the standard ways you would. You don't tell her you want out of the friendzone. She just starts feeling attracted to you because you're not acting like a beta anymore. Then one night you have a few drinks together and she's like, "You know. We really should **** once. Just to see what it's like." **** her properly and you're in.

It's a stupid roundabout way to do it though and you have to be high enough value for it to work. Any beta behavior and you're toast. Not gonna work every time.

I stand by my initial statement of don't bother. Abundance.

 

[Infern0]

The main thing with escaping friendzoned is you have to lose any traces of oneitis.

When you actually aren't even that interested anymore is usually when they flip the script and start wanting you.

Basically they see you start acting alpha, and other girls getting the benefits and they decide they want some.

 

[ohrein]

The main thing with escaping friendzoned is you have to lose any traces of oneitis.

When you actually aren't even that interested anymore is usually when they flip the script and start wanting you.

Basically they see you start acting alpha, and other girls getting the benefits and they decide they want some.

Exactly. Not caring if you escape the friendzone is ironically how you escape the friendzone. This is why it's a bad idea to "try".

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I think that you have to physically look more attractive. And if you have that inner game with it, then it's like "he's not even the same person anymore, he doesn't even look the same!" which is why I think that you can actually get out of the friendzone.

Another one is kino apparently. A few guys swear that you can fully blossom a relationship from kino alone. Then there's the thread cynetix created from over 10 years ago. Its in the DJ Bible, take a look at it. You don't have to read the whole thread, just his posts. Its titled LJBF ---> LFRN

 

[ohrein]

I think that you have to physically look more attractive. And if you have that inner game with it, then it's like "he's not even the same person anymore, he doesn't even look the same!" which is why I think that you can actually get out of the friendzone.

Another one is kino apparently. A few guys swear that you can fully blossom a relationship from kino alone. Then there's the thread cynetix created from over 10 years ago. Its in the DJ Bible, take a look at it. You don't have to read the whole thread, just his posts. Its titled LJBF ---> LFRN

Kino alone will fail if you're still a beta with outcome dependency. But kino is definitely the key to generating the attraction you need. Because you're friends with her, kino is very comfortable to initiate. Although if done weirdly or incorrectly you will get pulled up instantly. Just gotta stay cooooooool and go really slow.

 

[Infern0]

I think that you have to physically look more attractive. And if you have that inner game with it, then it's like "he's not even the same person anymore, he doesn't even look the same!" which is why I think that you can actually get out of the friendzone.

Another one is kino apparently. A few guys swear that you can fully blossom a relationship from kino alone. Then there's the thread cynetix created from over 10 years ago. Its in the DJ Bible, take a look at it. You don't have to read the whole thread, just his posts. Its titled LJBF ---> LFRN

I can tell you that first paragraph is true for a fact.

Back in the day I used to be 204lb at 6'0" I was skinnyfat, big beerbelly but skinny twig arms, generally quite shabby looking.

Jan 1 2013 I decide enough of this. Hit the gym 5x a week and diet on point. Luckily my body responded insanely well to lifting and by august I had been down to 170 and built back up to 195 lean.

Reactivated my Facebook and posted pics and I kid you not I had 2 texts and 2 PM's within 3 hours, two of them from girls who had previously friendzoned me, telling me they "missed me".

If you can shock them with an appearance change it goes a long way to them changing their mind about you.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I can tell you that first paragraph is true for a fact.

Back in the day I used to be 204lb at 6'0" I was skinnyfat, big beerbelly but skinny twig arms, generally quite shabby looking.

Jan 1 2013 I decide enough of this. Hit the gym 5x a week and diet on point. Luckily my body responded insanely well to lifting and by august I had been down to 170 and built back up to 195 lean.

Reactivated my Facebook and posted pics and I kid you not I had 2 texts and 2 PM's within 3 hours, two of them from girls who had previously friendzoned me, telling me they "missed me".

If you can shock them with an appearance change it goes a long way to them changing their mind about you.

This is reality and where all us DJs should aspire our game is. Females should be choosing and pursuing us.

 

[Infern0]

This is reality and where all us DJs should aspire our game is. Females should be choosing and pursuing us.

Exactly.

I've reached a point these days where due to my body (which took me over 2 years of hard work to achieve) I can afford to be lazy when it comes to getting women.

I've never been a fan of hitting the club and doing 25 cold approaches until I get a bite, its just not my idea of fun.

If you get yourself to the stage you look better than 90% of the guys out in town, you can just go out, have fun and have the women do the work, they will either approach you or make it very obvious they want you to approach them so you can just enjoy your night and make all that secondary.

Its not even that hard to get to that stage, and lifting becomes a fun hobby on its own anyway. But yeah at the gym there's heaps of guys bigger than me but when I go to town nowadays it strikes me how I look better than almost anyone. Hardly anyone is "in shape" these days

Remember "we are the prize" so IMO if you HAVE to cold approach to get laid you are doing something wrong IMO. It should be them coming after you.

As said though you need to be on a new level to make that happen.

 

[EyeBRollin]

In my experience women whom you either messed up with or let that "window of opportunity" pass with it almost never works out with "re-kindling." You can throw her a bone and give it a shot, but 9/10 it just won't work out. Your better off finding a new woman and starting fresh.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

In my experience women whom you either messed up with or let that "window of opportunity" pass with it almost never works out with "re-kindling." You can throw her a bone and give it a shot, but 9/10 it just won't work out. Your better off finding a new woman and starting fresh.

You don't chase her tho. She will come to you when she hears your hot now. Like the other guy said they will say stupid ish like they missed you, and all kinda other $hit they weren't doing before. It has to be a remarkable physique transform.

 

[Infern0]

You don't chase her tho. She will come to you when she hears your hot now. Like the other guy said they will say stupid ish like they missed you, and all kinda other $hit they weren't doing before. It has to be a remarkable physique transform.

That's the key is they HAVE to come to you.

What happens is they see you or hear about you and they will get in contact, and women are shameless in how they go about it, I.e "miss you" etc.

By this point hope you learned enough game to let her do the pursuing and let the odd **** test bounce off you and your golden.

Its not a case of reaching out to the girl going "look at me" and trying to prove yourself because that's the kind of **** that got you friendzoned in the first place.

 

[bigneil]

You may find this hard to believe but unlike the majority of caseshere I did not join this forum because I have Oneitis or because of some major heartbreak. No women have recently rejected me, I'm not desperately in love with anyone and this topic was meant to be a general discussion about multiple women who may happen to see me as a 'friend'. No girl has ever said to me 'I think we should just be friends.' Again, no.

I joined because my girlfriend at the time said my d!ck was too big.

I think the issue here is that some people link sex to validation and rejection to devalidation.

Sex is sex; rejection is nothing. Girls will only love you according to context--Circumstances change. Environments change. You change. I don't see what any of this has to do with 'self-respect.' Unless self=ego and you prioritize preserving some type of image or self-narrative over acting in accordance with your desires.

Yes, when a woman says "you are cute" she means "at this particular moment in time, I am feeling attraction". It doesn't mean that 2 years later she will remember you as "that cute guy".

When a woman rejects us, the pain we feel is proportional to how much we know we must improve.

If we improve enough so that she observes it, it feels good to feel her affection, but it's not worth a whole lot. You will always be the AFC who is now improved, and she will always be the woman who broke your heart, but now is back.

Relationships are like balloons. Once they pop, you have to find a new one. You can't put the balloon pieces back together and inflate it again.