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Master Don Juan
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What the hell are you even saying? How did the USPS [have] the "money losing route" before UPS got involved? Yes...the USPS is a public service that delivers regular ass mail to everyone's mailbox on the same routes, every day, Monday through Saturday (with Sunday package delivery from partnerships like Amazon). The post office didn't take anything before that it didn't already have and then "socialize the loss", it was already doing what the goal of the post office was to do: deliver daily mail. On the same routes it's been going for years. And years. And years. And years. The post office isn't "running routes that lose money!!". Again, it's been running the same damn routes it does decade after decade.5. You are changing the subject. You stated that UPS using the Post Office for money losing routes was because I wanted to socialize the losses. And I stated no, that the Post office was ALREADY SOCIALIZING THE LOSSES since it had the money losing route before UPS got involved. UPS was smart enough to lower it's costs and it did!!! You can't blame UPS for the Post Office running routes that lose money!!
In fact, the USPS is pretty much self sufficient and their revenue is up by about a billion. The only reason they could be seen to be bleeding money is because of the pre-fund mandate that's been talked about countless times in this thread.
So no, when UPS/Fedex dump packages on USPS, the USPS isn't taking anything on a route that loses money. That's ALL on UPS/Fedex. Since most people get regular mail every day save for the odd day every 4-5 weeks where they didn't get any mail in their mailbox, most packages for USPS are "on the way" or at the place they would've regularly delivered mail to anyway. This is literally common sense stuff.
UPS and Fedex are not regularly in the business of delivery normal ass mail, sure you can use them to expedite very important documents here and there but the bulk of their business is in the delivery of packages and boxes. When UPS and Fedex dump packages on USPS that's because the route for UPS OR FEDEX was seen as not profitable. It dumps the packages on the USPS that are going on routes they'd typically be going on anyway, so they don't have to increase capital spending in ways that decrease profits, e.g. on employees sorting the packages or loading them onto trucks, having the driver go to the extra address, etc. Offloading the package to the public sector service = socializing the loss. The loss was for UPS / Fedex. How you are even trying to make the claim that it's the post office's "money losing route" is hilarious.
Yeah man it's all great and stuff when a company is "smart enough" to increase profits, but it doesn't create the golden egg of efficiency you think it does and it doesn't benefit anyone but the top executives that pinch pennies wherever they can.