wtf do muslims gain by bombing Europe?

[yuppee]

they are just going to get the jews so scared of them that they Nuke Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia FIRST. Can't they see that? Regardless of you (the terrorist) wanting your 70 virgins, what about your loved ones? they are going to get fried because of your actions.

 

[Tictac]

Homicidal psychopaths that murder innocents in the name of Islam are not Muslims. They are Islamofascists.

This sh*t is bad enough and yes the Islamic faithful are not doing enough to kill these motherf*ckers.

But take a breath. This is not a holy war.

 

[yuppee]

it's gonna be, soon enough

 

[Tictac]

it's gonna be, soon enough

Which is exactly what they want.

 

[YawataNoKami]

Which is exactly what they want.

There is no such thing as a moderate muslim. A moderate muslim is a radical in disguised. Call me a racist I don't care ....... we should start hanging them.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Regardless of you (the terrorist) wanting your 70 virgins, what about your loved ones? they are going to get fried because of your actions.

Actually, promises to compensate and care for the surviving relatives of the suicide bombers is how they get paid.

ISIS believes the world is ending, but first there must come a prophesied war against Islam by the west. And the more they make people hate Muslims, the easier it is for them to get new recruits.

 

[Who Dares Win]

They are useful idiots the same way they have been in the 80s against the soviet union while uncle sam was paying for them, they are useful idiots the same way they were supposed to be to take down Assad.

They are no different than the mafia supported to sabotage the nazi before the invasion or sicily.

Regarding the moderate/fanatial muslim stuff, well according to the coran a guy that drops the muslim religions has to be killed, if you disobey you're not a "moderate", you simply are not a muslim, if you eat pork you're not a moderate, you're not a muslim.

There are no such things as being a little bit religious or being fully religious, you either take the full package or you dont, same thing for christians of course, you cant make a life out of stealing from people and hit on hookers violating a comendment then call yourself a christian.

Those who live their lifes similar to the westerns are not muslim, they bullsh1t themselves and those around them to feel better with themselves as much as a guy who swing both sides sexually but goes to church on sunday once in a while.

Nothing wrong with that of course.

 

[Tictac]

Dress the "cause" up however you want with religion or nationalism but it motivates people with nothing else to lose. They see the West as having much to lose.

True enough. But don't kid yourself. Weapons, ammo, food, shelter, men at arms all cost money. A lot of it. Jihad is very expensive.

Disrupting the money flow and humiliating them on the battlefield are the only things that will work.

Sic semper.

 

[Tictac]

That didn't work for us in Vietnam, or for the Russians in Afghanistan. Yes there were proxies funneling money and arms to the underdogs, but each still a failure to humiliate a seriously underdeveloped nation by a superpower.

ISIL is not a nation. It is a rabble.

 

[speed dawg]

Homicidal psychopaths that murder innocents in the name of Islam are not Muslims. They are Islamofascists.

This sh*t is bad enough and yes the Islamic faithful are not doing enough to kill these motherf*ckers.

But take a breath. This is not a holy war.

Fair enough, but at the very least, they want to keep their CULTURE, which is founded on the muslim faith. And I know that everyone here is aware that the US culture (and a good bit of Europe) was founded on the Christian faith.

If you wish for America to remain as it has been since its existing, then you must agree there is no room for islam in America. If you enjoy sharia law, then by all means, let's import more of those people.

It's sort of funny (for all you anti-Christians) that as soon as a culture removes Christianity from its core (self imposed might I add), then suddenly the hordes of invaders start having success in exterminating that group of people. Think about that.

 

[YawataNoKami]

Yeah, I must be a moron.....

ALL muslims support the cause. Some just don't have the upfront balls and lie to the infidel's as in their stupid quran.

Muslims have two tenets which they call 'taqqiya' and 'Kitman'. It translates in English as 'deliberate lies and deceit' to further their mohammedan cause by conning the 'infidels' into a false sense of security.

 

[BeTheChange]

Homicidal psychopaths that murder innocents in the name of Islam are not Muslims. They are Islamofascists.

This sh*t is bad enough and yes the Islamic faithful are not doing enough to kill these motherf*ckers.

But take a breath. This is not a holy war.

Wrong. ISIS et al are practicing a very plausible version of the faith. In fact they are more muslim than "true muslims". Islam is rotten to the core.

Taken at face value it is MUCH easier to read and interpret the Koran negatively. I suggest you think about that before making statements that perpetuate this bullsh*t because frankly your mindset of "REAL Islam is a religion of peace" is a massive part of the problem.

 

[BeTheChange]

bradd80 enumerated it pretty well. They want the West out of their lands, that's the whole point. The original pretense of bin Laden's jihad was to get the US to close its bases and move its warships out of the Arabian peninsula area - the holy land. That's what he said, anyway. You could argue whether or not terrorists would stop blowing shyt up if you gave them an inch. On the other hand, what real good has it done for us to have a constant military presence in some of these countries? The trillions of dollars invested in these godforsaken lands could have been used to invest in a replacement for fossil fuels, which would end our interest in that region real quick.

I'm reminded of the scene in Godfather Part II when Michael sees the Cuban revolutionary blow himself up as he gets arrested by the military police. The police get paid, he notes, but the revolutionary doesn't care about money. He fights for the cause and that's it. Dress the "cause" up however you want with religion or nationalism but it motivates people with nothing else to lose. They see the West as having much to lose.

Another bullsh*t argument basically blaming the West for these maniacs blowing themselves up.

Why aren't Tibetan monks blowing themselves up in Chinese hospitals?

Why weren't post war Germans strapping on suicide vests when their country got carved up by the Allies.

Understand. These people are almost entirely motivated by RELIGION. Get it through your heads. Islam is the problem.

Every single other reason offered by our self-hating Western society has been found to be redundant.

"Oh it's due to ignorance!" Radicalisation actually increases when you control for education...

"Poverty and dire living conditions motivates them" Osama Bin Laden was from a Billionaire family and could have fvcked models on yachts for his entire life...

"The young are marginalized" OK but they aren't the only marginalized group in society and yet terrorists seem to have a very similar profile...

This is not rocket science guys.

 

[Tictac]

In my mind there are two kinds of ignorance:

1. Willful arrogant-type
2. Childlike innocent-type

It amazes me that we're 15 years past 9/11 and people are still wondering why the West is so hated.

There's no action without a reaction.

I get the rage. The US inherited a post–imperial world following WWII. The world map was essentially drawn by imperialists and mercantilists to define their asset stripping operations for other Western powers.

But murder and mass murder of innocents is grounds to stomp those that use Islamofascisism to achieve their aims.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

During Armageddon when there are only 5,000 ISIS fighters left Jesus will descend from heaven to save them and defeat the Anti Christ which will be the president of the United States and his Crusader Christian Allies. Jesus will make the pilgrimage to Mecca declaring himself a humble Muslim. Jesus will then break the cross and will deny being the son of God declaring Mohammed as God's true messenger. The Koran is the only literal word of God. The Bible was written by Jews and cannot be trusted. Kuffars will be given 2 chances to convert to Islam. Those who reject the teachings of the prophet will be beheaded

 

[SmooveMooves]

Islam needs to be eradicated or reformed just as Christianity was long ago, when catholics were going around killing people. It also needs a leader it can defer to, as any well organized group should--

The dilemma is that Islam, in its nature, is violent. This claim can be backed simply by reading & interpreting the Quran. Terrorists are motivated by their holy book, therefore, this makes any Musilm a threat.

As was stated earlier in the thread, over 50% of musilms want Sharia law over the constitution. And the terrorist who was recently captured in Europe was being protected and aided in a musilm neigborhood by "moderate musilms."

Musilms make no effort to codemn or seperate themselves from terrorists. This is because they are the same, as terrorists are merely following their holy book. There is no "extremist" or "moderate" seperation. Making this claim, I offer this analogy:

Would you call someone who wholeheartedly follows the ten commandments a "Extremist" Christian? There is no halfway, either you identify as Christian/Musilm and all that comes with or you don't. If your beliefs are different than a seperation needs to be implemented, like protestants and catholics seperate.

The root problem is Islam. Which is not racist because Islam is an Ideology. The solution will be hard to come by. Leaders aren't quite sure on how to handle it.

Excluding the current Musilms who already live here, I feel they should not be allowed entry until Islam is reformed, with a leader. For those that say "Well if Islam is an Ideology, how do you identify them?" To which I say the border law becomes this: People for certain countries will be denied entry. This will pressure Islam to either reform or start a war, proving that the barbaric 7th century ideology needs to be purged.

Other countries are watching America closely and will follow suit in foreign policy.

 

[Von]

Bible is just as violent as the Quran.... In the Bible they promote killing your own kids after all.

Heck, the ''islamic veil'' is actually a modern invention (cause they not even asked about it in the book)

When Islam came in Christian lands with the greek knowledge in the Middle-Age, it start sparking a ''renaissance''... It's Muslim with Greek knowledge through Italy that were the basis of the '' first modernisation''

I am against all form of religion. Prostestant and Islam have the same problem.... no central institution, so changing it would take a lot of political efforts. So when you questions ''Believers'' even non-praticing one... they flip out.... while Catholics are like.... yeah our church sucks lol but we need to do good

The problem is poverty, reject of modernity, war, mental illness....

Christian have been killing, dividing muslisms (who are 1.5 billions) for 50 years and some immigrants are been marginalized.... so you bound to see ''terrorist'' take advantage of delusionnal souls and turn them into terrorist for their own ''political,money,power'' agenda.

Evangelicals make 90% of school shooters. Does it make all christians bad? Remember Mid-Eastern countries were push backward by Europe, USA, Israel for all kind of reaons. So that and failed integretion in society make crazy people who blow up cause they can't stand happiness and modernity.

Jew Zionist promote land expansion and shooting palestinians on ''religious land rights''.... Some jews want Israel to be blown up cause its in the book

Central leadership of Islamic countries as stated above existed.... Nasser, Khaddafi, Saddam Hussein etc,,, They were all modern arab who rejected the foundation of Islam, rejected the veil.... until they were betrayed by the USA and plunged into war.... (Saddam Hussein was given the right to attack Kuwait by the USA, yes the USA said they would also invade Kuwait if Saddam did.... we all know that backfired).... When you have a dictator who's ressource are cut they eventually turn against his people to keep himself there. But they were still anti-religion.

Turkey is a great example.... Modern, European, Muslim (yet no practicing).... in the last 10 years the Islamist got political power and stuff started to be more shaky... but they held that '' Western way of life for 60 years, protected by the army''

So what do terrorist gain ? Everything is we attack them back: t more hate and people shooting at them... making more people angry and more terrorists in the craddle... It's a vicious circle... If we do nothing they would gain NOTHING

Oh and why Belgium ? Belgium had no governement for the past 3 years.... cause they ethnically divided between Belgium ethnic and Flanders (German and Netherlands ethnic group).... every law for one is being vetod by the other group... Domestically, they been doing well and people are happy. But on the ''immigrant-terror'' issue its hell because no one is doing anything since no one has power.... ISIS/Daesh even have an embassy there (local belge politician said that)

 

[LiveFreeX]

The solution is simple, they want America off of their land, I wholeheartedly agree. We don't bomb them anymore, we don't have talks or negotiations, we just send in an entire invasion force, wipe them the fvk out and claim that land as our own, New America. Done deal. Setup western farmers and build a wall around the country. Yeah Christians were violent and its time to rise up again and take back our rightful place as the dominant culture on Earth. No pandering, no excuses, just Trump, b1tch.

 

[Von]

1. But Christians don't follow the violence that muslims do. You can claim all the violent words in the Bible that you want, but by and large Christians aren't blowing up planes, beheading people, raping entire countries, etc,... based upon what their book tells them.

2. If we do nothing, they will quite simply overwhelm and destroy western Christian culture.



Try and defend it all you want, but western Christian countries have every right to live and survive. And the only way to do so is to recognize that these people want to kill and subjugate and it is based upon their faith.

Ever heard of the Crusades ? Or the NATO interventions in Mid-East?

Christian nations are in advance on ''mid-eastern - Asia'' timeline.... but these things change.... Back in the 1960 Arab countries were socially more advance than ours.... like they were in the Mid-Ages.

The crusaders were christians defender of faith sent to invade Arab land to take back Israel.... (they killed a couple of christians countries on the way too)

Boy, 1000 years later we still there and having the same damn issue.

The Islamic-Arab empire was the most modern and scientifically developped empire where Christian, Jews, Muslims, Buddhist could live in peace.... until the Mongolian empire destroyed that famous centralized governement... and the empire was divided in many.

Sure, Christians blow up schools, planes, kill people, bomb hospital.... you see it in the news every day... We have an army.... the poor we shooting down have what ?.... How you think they enable their vengeance ?

When Christians are attacked.... people ask for Muslim blood or vengeance.... When Muslim blood is spilled... they ask for vengeance and who's blood ?

Ask yourself.... who shooted first.... usually its the Christians who attacked first originally. Syrians were happy alone, Irak never asked to be invaded, Iran to be isolated, Russians to be feared, Kuwait to be occupied

In politics, no one wants a united Middle East.... because a Middle-East that is united would be a big player in the power struggle between Asia-Europe-Africa.

Don't be surprised if Muslims have the same reaction has christians.... we all human... and when you are poor and have hate in your eyes (vengeance).... you become desperate.

For some people.... Death is better than a life of suffering

 

[speed dawg]

Theoretically, if Christian nations go in and kill a bunch of muslim nations (and yes, innocents will be killed too, things happen in war), and this results in a safer world for more people......then is it really evil? I don't think so. That is simply how I look at it.

I think muslims need to be eradicated, simply because they do not value life outside their own. Christians do. End of discussion, honestly. But doing this, you are showing you care MORE about the vast majority of people.

Fact is - muslims are more violent, the most violent, group on Earth. No, I don't particularly WANT these people to die, they are God's creation too after all. But if they stay and kill, then they HAVE to go, in order to survive.