If women are so "picky" these days because of all the options they have, then...

[Robert28]

Why do 90% of them pick the wrong guys? I mean, do you notice how many fvcked up relationships and marriages there are out there? For instance, most recently a girl I know dated this guy for 3-4 months and they got married. That marriage lasted TWO WEEKS and she's now back home with her parents and filing for a divorce. Oh and she's knocked up, second kid by a different dude. Did I mention she's been married before?lol Two divorces, two kids by two different guys. The sad thing is this girl is H-O-T, but she picks the ****tiest men. The guy she recently married was in a long term relationship with someone else before AND during the whole time they dated. Didn't bother to tell her until AFTER they got married.haha I don't blame him, I blame her for being a dumb fvck and not being able to figure the sh!t out in the 3-4 months prior to them getting married.lol Now she has this bad attitude towards ALL men because shes a fvck up. Yeah, it's MY fault she dates dumbasses.haha

My point is, this is a regular occurance, so many fvcked up relationships all over the place. Women have SO many options these days when it comes to guys but they're picking the ****tiest of the ****ty it seems like. All I can do is shake my head and laugh. My biggest problem in dating is the girls I have a ton in common with (politically, socially, etc) never seem to be interested in me, they go for the complete opposite of me. What type of girls have I been attracting lately you might ask? The uber feminist liberal or the rebound chick, or some type of girl I have very little in common with that would make me even consider dating them long term. It's so fvcked up.

Basically I have the money to buy a BMW but the salesman keeps showing me Chevy's.lol

 

[AttackFormation]

The short answer is mental illness and a perversion of evolved mate selection because of current social conditions.

The long answer is one I will give if someone is interested in hearing it.

 

[Robert28]

I'm deffinately interested

 

[Glumix]

I don't think that first chick dated the wrong guy.
It seems she dated exactly the guy she needed as it seems she is as fvcked up as him.

It's not because she's HOT that she's value.

People fall for the people they deserve and need for their own evolution.

The problem is lack of authority and lack of accountability during the education of kids. In today's world, kids must be loved but we never ask them to be lovable. Or they simply never have access to that because of absent fathers.

So they don't learn. Life teaches them.

That girl is probably addicted to love. She lives in a fairy tale. She doesn't even know about birth control?!
I mean, who get married after 4 months of relationship?

The question is not WTF is her problem. The question is WTF created that problem.

Don't buy the Chevy's anyway even though they look like BMWs.

 

[logicallefty]

The short answer is mental illness and a perversion of evolved mate selection because of current social conditions.

Mental illness sums it up best of all. To elaborate just a little bit more... Perhaps it's because of a conflict between the woman's mind wanting a decent man who can provide her with resources so she doesn't have to do anything productive in the world, VS., her vag getting wet and wanting c0ck from thugs, dirt bags, etc because they are so mysterious and exciting (but can't provide her with the resources she requires). So.... What happens? In her late teens & 20s she will try some of each type of man, maybe one type for a while then the other.. But as she approaches her 30s and gets "liberated" she says "$crew this I want both!!" So she gets into a LTR or marries a decent man for his resources, but cheats on him with the dirt bag, thug, etc. so she can get the c0ck she craves... Problem solved!

 

[Speculator E]

I see you post the same things a lot. I'm gonna say what you probably dont want to hear. Girls want alpha. You're not an alpha if girls consistently don't want to date you. Alphas are sociopaths and pyschopaths. It's normal for them that they tend to lie and cheat. Girls will want what her heart desire.

 

[parkthebus]

Because women date on intuition not logic. If she comes across a guy her pulls at her heart strings, she'll get addicted to those feelings. She doesn't think "he doesn't earn a good enough income". Sure, this factors into their thought process at some point but if the addiction is strong enough she can look past it. That's why lose **** heads get hot girls, because they are mentally attractive enough for a woman to look past her logic.

 

[Alvafe]

Why do 90% of them pick the wrong guys? I mean, do you notice how many fvcked up relationships and marriages there are out there? For instance, most recently a girl I know dated this guy for 3-4 months and they got married. That marriage lasted TWO WEEKS and she's now back home with her parents and filing for a divorce. Oh and she's knocked up, second kid by a different dude. Did I mention she's been married before?lol Two divorces, two kids by two different guys. The sad thing is this girl is H-O-T, but she picks the ****tiest men. The guy she recently married was in a long term relationship with someone else before AND during the whole time they dated. Didn't bother to tell her until AFTER they got married.haha I don't blame him, I blame her for being a dumb fvck and not being able to figure the sh!t out in the 3-4 months prior to them getting married.lol Now she has this bad attitude towards ALL men because shes a fvck up. Yeah, it's MY fault she dates dumbasses.haha

My point is, this is a regular occurance, so many fvcked up relationships all over the place. Women have SO many options these days when it comes to guys but they're picking the ****tiest of the ****ty it seems like. All I can do is shake my head and laugh. My biggest problem in dating is the girls I have a ton in common with (politically, socially, etc) never seem to be interested in me, they go for the complete opposite of me. What type of girls have I been attracting lately you might ask? The uber feminist liberal or the rebound chick, or some type of girl I have very little in common with that would make me even consider dating them long term. It's so fvcked up.

Basically I have the money to buy a BMW but the salesman keeps showing me Chevy's.lol

feh its more like she atract the guy she want, but in the end she can't keep any guy around, also you know aht the problem is? a guy really wanting anything other then sex from a woman with a child with is not his, also understand this the guy was not wrong, she picked up the guy she wanted, but for some reason she wanted to be free again, that this behavior mental illness or whatever, the main issue here is she is not the kind of woman who should marry, and guys around should not marry *****s like her.

now for your woman choices, lol, how many you nail?
are you at least having some fun? or you are the kind who let the girl walk all over you because you are the guy who wnat to take things serious?

 

[Fitters]

Because most guys chasing her are SPINELESS.
90% of guys out there don't know how to treat women , they can put on the fake persona for so long until things start to fall apart. She realizes the guy is just a total azzhole / insecure or not man enough. She gets frustrated playing the role of a MAN when in her eyes it's so EASY , simply LEAD and have some BALLS

 

[Robert28]

feh its more like she atract the guy she want, but in the end she can't keep any guy around, also you know aht the problem is? a guy really wanting anything other then sex from a woman with a child with is not his, also understand this the guy was not wrong, she picked up the guy she wanted, but for some reason she wanted to be free again, that this behavior mental illness or whatever, the main issue here is she is not the kind of woman who should marry, and guys around should not marry *****s like her.

now for your woman choices, lol, how many you nail?
are you at least having some fun? or you are the kind who let the girl walk all over you because you are the guy who wnat to take things serious?

Oh I'm getting laid plenty, that's not the problem at all. The problem is IF I ever wanted something long term it wouldn't be with any of the girls that are attracted to me. It's not their looks, it's their personality. I have dated some hot @$$ women but who the hell wants anything long term with a Hillary or Bernie supporter? Not me. I want a girl that is conservative, is responsible with her money, doesn't need to go out to bars all the damn time as a "date", has a semi-decent head on her shoulders. I know these girls are out there because I've seen them, the problem is they aren't looking for guys that share those qualities.

 

[logicallefty]

Oh I'm getting laid plenty, that's not the problem at all. The problem is IF I ever wanted something long term it wouldn't be with any of the girls that are attracted to me. It's not their looks, it's their personality. I have dated some hot @$$ women but who the hell wants anything long term with a Hillary or Bernie supporter? Not me. I want a girl that is conservative, is responsible with her money, doesn't need to go out to bars all the damn time as a "date", has a semi-decent head on her shoulders. I know these girls are out there because I've seen them, the problem is they aren't looking for guys that share those qualities.

This is so darn true. If your value system isn't aligned with hers you will never succeed long term. This was one of the last core dating principals I learned. I didn't get this one in check until the LTR I ended in late 2014. I kept dating women who were poverty level for lack of a better term and had no money management at all or many\any of the same core conservative values that I do. It may seem like a non issue at first but believe me, it will be one eventually.. Even when you aren't sharing finances with them eventually they spend more than they have and then put pressure on you for "gas money", $5.00 here, $20.00 there, etc. "Gas money". DOn't even get me started. Those words "gas money" are two of my most hated words. I have seen so many women and other people who know they need to drive 25 miles on Friday but they spend their last buck on Wednesday and then are begging for "gas money" Friday morning, or picking through the couch for change, whatever!! These people that do this never change.. Don't ever get too close to one if you want to keep your sanity.

 

[Trump]

Why do 90% of them pick the wrong guys? I mean, do you notice how many fvcked up relationships and marriages there are out there? For instance, most recently a girl I know dated this guy for 3-4 months and they got married. That marriage lasted TWO WEEKS and she's now back home with her parents and filing for a divorce. Oh and she's knocked up, second kid by a different dude. Did I mention she's been married before?lol Two divorces, two kids by two different guys. The sad thing is this girl is H-O-T, but she picks the ****tiest men. The guy she recently married was in a long term relationship with someone else before AND during the whole time they dated. Didn't bother to tell her until AFTER they got married.haha I don't blame him, I blame her for being a dumb fvck and not being able to figure the sh!t out in the 3-4 months prior to them getting married.lol Now she has this bad attitude towards ALL men because shes a fvck up. Yeah, it's MY fault she dates dumbasses.haha

Bro why do you care? What ever she does, as long as its legal, is up to her. If she is picking and sleeping with the worst guys and not falling in love with you, its her decision. Who says she didn't know or figure anything out? Maybe she knew but the guy so awesome and handsome and rich and smart and good in bed that she turned a blind eye because she had to have him. Don't always assume they are the victim or dumb.

My biggest problem in dating is the girls I have a ton in common with (politically, socially, etc) never seem to be interested in me, they go for the complete opposite of me. What type of girls have I been attracting lately you might ask? The uber feminist liberal or the rebound chick, or some type of girl I have very little in common with that would make me even consider dating them long term. It's so fvcked up.

Basically I have the money to buy a BMW but the salesman keeps showing me Chevy's.lol

No bro, its basically you have an BMW and the other guy has the Chevy, but he knows how to sell his product much better than you do.

Women are not attracted to QUALITY guys, quality does not matter to them. What do they care about? Looks, height, money, status, fame, novelty. Politicians, entertainers, athletes, these type of people are what they go for. The guy who brings home a steady paycheque and is polite and respectful and treats them nicely, not so much.

 

[AttackFormation]

I'm deffinately interested

Mental illness: Look around yourself and count the symptoms of narcissist, histrionic, bipolar/borderline and psychopathic behaviour of people in your life and in the world at large. These traits flourish because our society fosters and rewards them. They have been recorded as being on the rise for decades now. The natural mechanisms for sorting out self- and collectively destructive illnesses are not there or very weakened in our society. A mentally ill person who caused disturbance to the peace of a hunter-gatherer tribe would easily be gotten rid of by the group, whereas they are free to predate our society. If the woman and men in the OP existed in such a tribe, they would probably either become outcasts and driven away from the tribe's feeding grounds or one or both of them would be killed. Keep in mind that other tribes would know that outcasts are such for a reason, they would be loathe to accept them just as you can see remnants of with villages having been wary of lone strangers without attachment to a community and such. Basically the community would cleanse itself of the mentally ill.

Perverted mate selection: In the hunter-gatherer age humans probably lived in either groups or herds. This creates a completely different environment than the one we have today. There are three basic strategies women would have reproductively: polygamy with the best male she can get, cuckolding, and straight pair bonding. Whatever she does, in this age she needs the consent of the group and provisioning of the father for both her and the baby to survive. Any "welfare" she could receive is dependent entirely on the subjective views of the other group members of her, not by impersonal laws. And everyone knows her and her actions. I'd imagine that pair bonding would be formalised so that the legitimacy of the child and the roles of the couple can be established. Whoever first betrays the pair bond would be criminalised. This simply means that both parts have to make responsible decisions but especially the woman. If society still worked like this, neither the woman nor men in the OP could act like they have.

A simple analogy could be imagine that there's 10 classrooms in the area. Every one of them has like 50 people in them and they cooperate instead of compete to solve the problems because grades are awarded on a class basis and the brightest students get the recognition of their peers. If a problematic individual exists in these classrooms they would be shut out and no other classroom would want to accept them since they know that you are cast out for a reason, and when you ask the classroom that did it they tell you why. Now compare that to a crowd of 50 000 people that fundamentally competes with each other to survive instead of cooperating (population increase from agriculture and the dispersion of communal identity, 50k is an arbitrary number of a town of today). I only briefly mentioned the competitive nature of today's society which is a polar opposite of the way we evolved, but you have to understand that it is a massive shift. Competition is especially harmful for animals with long childhoods that need/are shaped by parental investment and environmental effect, that's why you have no such animals base their groups on a foundation of competition even if they have it with stuff like mate acquisition and guarding, unlike the current humans who are also the worst affected by it. Even chimpanzees don't have a society fundamentally based on competitive individualism.

Which environment is easier to get away with things in? Then you add in the stuff like welfare and divorce laws, feminism, etc. things that have only just started existing in our evolutionary history. What you get is a pressure cooker that fails to optimise the species because humans have not evolved to live this way. When you take away communal belonging, communal regulation of individuals for the good of all and adult provisioning and education of children, you take away the blueprint of humanity as a species. Every problem we have today can be traced back to the neglect or absence of these core values and I mean that absolutely We can mitigate this somewhat with stuff like strong nuclear families and communities, which is why precisely things like that have been destroyed in the last century. Our current society would better suit a species that needs little to no parental investment and education and are not based on communality, for example like anti-social insects.

 

[logicallefty]

@AttackFormation I heard a psychologist on a radio talk show several months go speak very similarly as you in regards human evolution . In specific, he talked about your comparison to how we evolved vs how things are now.. He said the real root cause to our mental demise is that we as humans are trying to do too much. He said we have too many responsibilities, too many stimuli, and too many other humans we have to deal with throughout a given day and we are not designed to do this. he also said that technology is a huge player in this and while we do get a lot of benefit from it it is also damaging us more than we know. Simply put, his idea was that the human race is on overload, and thus, The negative byproduct of that is that people are getting crazier. I wish I could remember the guys name he really made a lot of sense to me.

 

[AttackFormation]

@AttackFormation I heard a psychologist on a radio talk show several months go speak very similarly as you in regards human evolution . In specific, he talked about your comparison to how we evolved vs how things are now.. He said the real root cause to our mental demise is that we as humans are trying to do too much. He said we have too many responsibilities, too many stimuli, and too many other humans we have to deal with throughout a given day and we are not designed to do this. he also said that technology is a huge player in this and while we do get a lot of benefit from it it is also damaging us more than we know. Simply put, his idea was that the human race is on overload, and thus, The negative byproduct of that is that people are getting crazier. I wish I could remember the guys name he really made a lot of sense to me.

Yeah, you can probably say something like that is my stance as well though with different words in my specific post obviously. My theory has for some time been that like any evolutionary path, humanity's one is a risk, and we are seeing why today. But as long as we ultimately survive it is a successful one for our genes, just not for our minds - it depends on the perspective you take. The species as an organism is doing better than it ever has before, there are over 7 billion of us. But whether we will wipe ourselves out or coalesce into a "better" future, we can't say. We don't know if it was a winning risk yet. Ultimately humanity will still die out unless we can migrate from our planet or we can stop the sun from dying and protect Earth from cosmic "accidents" like being smashed by comets. If we can't do either of those things, we may in the end as well have just stayed as bacteria. But then again we only know of those eventual ends because our intelligence made us aware... pretty cool huh

 

[visions]

Women can fvck whoever they want and have as many kids as they want bc the government will take care of them.

 

[Krueg]

Despite the Irony of your question. It all comes down to us being human, We dont always know what we want in life. People get in a relationship for the wrong reason, their too young and in-experienced, acting on the moment and what they feel at the time... Or realized they should've been careful of what you wished for! Sh!t happens in life. Guess I dont know what to say.

 

[evan12]

Why do 90% of them pick the wrong guys?

Who said they are wrong guy,biologically he is the right guy , he is sexy and strong , but in this time being strong does not mean you are socially successful . so that is where women fall until they release this truth

 

[Infern0]

Attack Formation had the best answers

Basically generation X ****ed everything up, social norms that had been in place (and worked) for centuries went out of the window and we have got a messed up society now FULL of mental illnesses, codependence, it's all gone to hell.

I know so many NPD, BPD, HPD type women, or at least VERY strong traits of that, they all got daddy issues, some of them were tickled a bit much by daddy if you know what i mean, otherwise they were spoilt rotten or raised by single mothers.

Gen X were TERRIBLE parents, and we have a sick generation, i myself suffered from this but thankfully i "only" ended up codependent, which isn't too hard to fix once you figure it out.

But yeah, things are messed up and we have a huge amount of damaged girls out there, social media is making things way, way worse. Most of these girls have no respect for themselves so how the hell are they going to respect anyone else. They have no self worth or self value so they are addicted to external validation in the form of instagram selfies and collecting orbiters. And as before a person who doesn't value, respect, or love themselves CANNOT do so to another person it simply isn't possible.

In short they don't "think" the way "normals" do, it's like 3/4 of their brain is in power saving mode and the only part that's running is the part that contains ego.

the thugs and the bad boys can handle them pretty well because they don't care enough to get damaged by them, the real alpha males just ignore them and go for the top 5% of women who are relativley issue free and the AFC's/Betas get destroyed by them and go either MGTOW of forever alone type deal.

Short answer, the world is a mess.

 

[Infern0]

To give an example of myself, I had a narcissistic mother and a codependent father

so i had a emotional basketcase of a mother with an emotional maturity of a 5 year old, and a weak father with an emotional maturity of about 13

They were both (and still are) children themselves, and they raised me to be a mess.

As a guy, obviously this meant my life would be **** until i figured things out and changed.

Now if i were a female, I would have gone a different path, I would have worked out from a young age that i could use my looks, sexuality and femininity to get what i wanted, and become a borderline or histrionic. And i would have not been FORCED into changing.

This is why women are even worse than guys this generation