Women are easy if you understand THIS...

[Trump]

Just a follow up. I hope I'm not hijacking this thread. I said I was field testing this concept. As it turns out the woman I ignored called me yesterday. I didn't take her call but she left a message. If she's interested in me why didn't she just reply to my text to get together? I obviously don't understand women yet.

Text is in writing. You have proof and can show off to your friends she is interested. By calling she can deny she was interested as you don't have written proof. Writing makes her vulnerable.

Girls are smart, they protect themselves like crazy. It's kind of like Warren Buffet and the coke options. He told the shareholders he thought it was a terrible, disgusting idea and he was dead set against it, but he wouldn't put it in writing. Thus you can't prove to a judge he was against it. What a joke he is.

 

[Induced Drag]

I wouldn't have ever thought of this. I just assumed low interest but with her calling it sounds like you're right.

Text is in writing. You have proof and can show off to your friends she is interested. By calling she can deny she was interested as you don't have written proof. Writing makes her vulnerable.

Girls are smart, they protect themselves like crazy. It's kind of like Warren Buffet and the coke options. He told the shareholders he thought it was a terrible, disgusting idea and he was dead set against it, but he wouldn't put it in writing. Thus you can't prove to a judge he was against it. What a joke he is.

 

[VikingKing]

While your post makes some sense OP, you forget something. Many people in general, arent that logical.

I personally believe most men and women are inherently a large mix of emotion and logic. I believe there are very logical men and women out there...but for the most part, many people cannot overcome their emotions all the time.

Part of the reason I dont put much stock into the ole "men are logical, women are emotional" party line, is because all one has to do is look at threads here and look at people around them. Most men, just like most women, get driven by emotion. For some guys its their feelings for a girl, but for many of us, its lust that blinds us. And lust is indeed an emotion.

Wanna know what the best relationships Ive see are? Between a man and a woman who emotionally connect, but are also very logical. I dont think youll get a good relationship without having two people who balance those parts of each of their personas. A man or a woman can be as logical as they want....but if they are dealing with someone whos way more emotional than logical...things wont work imo. They are just two different people in that case.

I think its time for men to stop buying into the whole "men are logical, women are emotional" shpeel....and go find themselves a smart woman whos realistic, practical, and logical (on top of being fun). They are out there. Dont settle on thinking you can manipulate an overly emotional person...because trust me...youll get thrown for a loop despite thinking youre in so much control.

The right woman is the mature woman with a pragmatic approach to how she handles many things. At least for me thats the right woman.

PS - If I have to do a lot of thinking and planning of my behavior with a girl, I wont be dating her. I like something fun and without the headache of thinking I need to be a step ahead of someone or hold their hand like a child through our partnership. If a man is a good judge of character and personality, he should be able to find a mature woman that takes the work out of dating.

Including you.

 

[VikingKing]

I used to watch this type of sh!t between my parents.

I remember as a child, my mother would spend about 2.5 hours making dinner, before my father got home from work.

Once he was home (and of course, my mom would time this so that dinner was ready by the time he walked in the door) he would sit in his spot at the head of the table, my mom at the other end, and us four in the middle.

Here was there daily fight (only for a while) : my mom would say to my dad "hows the food?" my dad "To much salt (or not enough lol, you never know, nor does it matter) and thats the bait my mom would throw out.

My father is a strong man. I mean how do you mentally handle this type of bs.

I think my dad doesn't care to much about to much, or to little salt. But my mom always had to force him to identify something wrong so she can feel like a vicitim, or something to that extent. Most likely she wasn't getting enough attention, and thats how she got the scraps she wanted.

Now, I will say, my mom is more feminine, a better human being, and a real woman compared to this garbage we pick from the dumpster now a days.

My old man has some of the strongest frame i've seen in my life.

Even my mom told me when I was young "if you ask your dad for something, he will usually say no... at first. But if you be patience and give him time to think about it, if its reasonable, he will usually say yes.

Op is right. With women, you got to realize, often times reason is out the door.

But of course, my mom is great.

My sister above me used to be mean to me, almost cruel in a way. One time when we were waiting in the mini van outside the dentists office, my sister was being mean, and i punched her in the mouth. she was bleeding, crying, being manipulative, trying to make my mom sympathise with her.

You know what my mom did? Well first she realized what was going on. Then she told my sister to be quiet, and drove off.

My mom grew up with an abusive, slvt, alcholic mother. My mom was abused emotionally, and physically. But loyal to my dad. I know this because she spent all her time was me and my siblings.

It is an exception.

My mothers obession was her children. Not drugs, d!ck, alcohol, or gold digging. It was family.

I was also born in their bed, all natural, no drugs, nothing.

She did it the hard way, like a real woman. Plus she homeschooled us. Shes a bad a$$

 

[Dgwizdal]

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[Floydispink01]

Excellent post Dgwizdal.

 

[JohnChops]

Women want to be led by a man not chased around by a boy. They base their actions on emotions; not logic. This is why you will never win an argument with her: you must appeal to her feelings. When she acts up; withdraw attention. When she behaves; reward her sparingly and intermittently. COVERT COMMUNICATION IS KEY. She knows she is irrational and will forever test your strength to make sure your integrity is not compromised. She wants to feel your masculine energy push back against her. Always remain the immovable oak tree in the face of a hurricane. The more you act like a cool, calm, secure, self-assured man the more she will be an adoring, love-sick, feminine woman.

Pay attention to what she does, not what she says. Start dominating her instead of asking her permission or reassurance. Grab her hand and tell her where you are going. She is a guest in your world and you will continue on with or without her. She wants it that way. Never lose your frame. Never overly talk about your feelings or get emotional; that is for women. You are a man. Never take advice from ANY women on how to treat women: they do not know what makes them tick. Be hot and cold, push and pull, don't text back right away or at all all the time. Look her dead in the eyes and say something outrageous. Tease her. Challenge her. Push her out of her comfort zone. Keep her guessing. Keep her wondering. Never supplicate. Make it known that you have options. NEVER forget who the prize is.

The more you can take her on an emotional roller coaster (happiness, anger, wonder, dread, relief) the more she will become addicted and attracted to you. The more she will think about you and desire you. The more she will "love" you. It's not about money, looks, or what you do for a living. She may ideally want those in a man but they are completely irrelevant if she is not attracted to you. LUST IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOVE. Women want excitement, they want drama, they want unpredictability, they want to FEEL. Make them jump through hoops for you THEN show her you appreciate her. They don't want everything handed to them on a platter. WOMEN WANT TO EARN YOUR LOVE. THEY WANT TO FEEL THERE IS SOMETHING MORE TO CHASE...FOREVER. It is ingrained in their DNA. Give them that opportunity by being the intoxicating confident jerk with a sprinkle of nice guy here and there. Open then door for her and slap her on the @ss as she walks through. Bring her to the verge of deeming you uncatchable and then do something sweet for reassurance time and time again. Don't be afraid to show her you like her every once in a while. Always do things she may appreciate without expecting anything in return. Always make her believe the best is yet to come.

She will be yours forever.

fan ****ing tastic. people think im insane but that whole "look into her eyes and say something insane" that works.

Anything. Say anything.

Grab her, and make it seem like its important and then just say something so stupid that she ends up laughing her ass off. Gets her panties wet 6% of the time... all the time.

 

[Yewki]

Be hot and cold
Challenge her.
Tease her.
Push her out of her comfort zone.
Keep her guessing.
Keep her wondering.
take her on an emotional roller coaster (happiness, anger, wonder, dread, relief)
Bring her to the verge of deeming you uncatchable and then do something sweet for reassurance time and time again.
push and pull,
Look her dead in the eyes and say something outrageous.
Always do things she may appreciate without expecting anything in return.
Always make her believe the best is yet to come.
THEY WANT TO FEEL THERE IS SOMETHING MORE TO CHASE...FOREVER

That's an awful lot of work there for a girl

She will be yours forever.

Forever is a long time. I personally prefer a few months, max

 

[Floydispink01]

That's an awful lot of work there for a girl



Forever is a long time. I personally prefer a few months, max

The ironic thing is you achieve all this work with pretty much no effort (or even nothing) when your f.cking a girl you don't care about.

Yet can seem like all the effort in the world when you do care.

 

[RangerMIke]

Text is in writing. You have proof and can show off to your friends she is interested. By calling she can deny she was interested as you don't have written proof. Writing makes her vulnerable.

Girls are smart, they protect themselves like crazy. It's kind of like Warren Buffet and the coke options. He told the shareholders he thought it was a terrible, disgusting idea and he was dead set against it, but he wouldn't put it in writing. Thus you can't prove to a judge he was against it. What a joke he is.

Exactly why I don't text.... ever.

 

[Dgwizdal]

The ironic thing is you achieve all this work with pretty much no effort (or even nothing) when your f.cking a girl you don't care about.

Yet can seem like all the effort in the world when you do care.

To the bluepiller...

Alot of this stuff becomes second nature when you do it long enough especially when you realize you can NEVER stop gaming your girl regardless of how strongly YOU feel about HER. PLUS - this sh!t is fun.

When in doubt - do nothing.

 

[Yewki]

To the bluepiller...

Says the guy with a long, intricate list of tasks to win the girl and make her yours "forever"

 

[Dgwizdal]

Says the guy with a long, intricate list of tasks to win the girl and make her yours "forever"

If you think this is a list of intricate tasks rather than an understanding of the big picture in what drives attraction so that women want to win YOU - you haven't learned a thing yet.

 

[Dgwizdal]

ehhhhhh i am not sure if women woRth all this efforts! my suggestion is to be urself in the 1st place and if she is ur woman she will be with u anyway, and then u can marry her, everyhing else is temporary and not worth nor ur efforts not the time

Did you get this advice from your mom or girls who call you their bff?

 

[Yewki]

If you think this is a list of intricate tasks rather than an understanding of the big picture in what drives attraction so that women want to win YOU - you haven't learned a thing yet.

No, because then you would have wrote about the bigger picture.

Instead you wrote about how to covertly supplicate to a girl so that "she will be yours forever"... typical scarcity mindset treating women as some divine prize.

 

[Dgwizdal]

No, because then you would have wrote about the bigger picture.

Instead you wrote about how to covertly supplicate to a girl so that "she will be yours forever"... typical scarcity mindset treating women as some divine prize.

Sounds like the very last sentence in my post has your hamster spinning off the wheel into a fairy tale.

Thanks for your participation.

 

[Yewki]

Sounds like the very last sentence in my post has your hamster spinning off the wheel into a fairy tale.

Thanks for your participation.

Sounds like you're dodging the point to avoid humiliation

 

[Fitters]

Don't ruin a good thread with senseless arguments

 

[startstrongtoday22]

Listen to this stuff and your woman will start to look for another man. All these guys say preach the same stuff and none of them can keep a woman around. I tried doing this and it doesn't work. You need a balanced approach with women. Not being a push over is the key. Ignoring her will push her to another guy.

I couldn’t agree more. Balance is key. I recently lost a girl because she said I treated like **** and I didn’t take her seriously - and she couldn’t take it anymore. I went on vacations with guy friends but not with her. I never took her serious so she decided to leave. Point is, too much alpha can make her go away.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Incredible post