Is it just me or has online dating going down the tubes?

[Married Buried]

She doesn't have a computer and doesn't use mine. The phone and car location are areas of interest. I am not getting into the phone. She has offered to let me see it but I decline. She does not use facebook.

 

[seasonedplayer]

i started a thread about it and general point I made was that tinder/swipe OLD has destroyed both traditional online dating and regular dating.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php?threads/online-dating-has-ruined-the-bar-scene.219001/

My sweet spot was traditional online dating where you still needed balls to email women. Now the swiping thing gives women the illusion of choice, and shy guys a means to approach women and there is so much back and forth nothing happens

Try to get a blanket one night stand in NYC these days, very tough unless you lower quality. Now it takes extensive swiping and multiple dates to get laid

 

[the_stig]

Late to the party on this thread, but yes online dating gets more difficult by the day.

Five years ago on POF alone I was guaranteed to mess around with several new girls a month, getting laid and one night stands were pretty frequent. Tons of ongoing flings. Text book plate spinning basically. Reflecting back on 2015 that number dwindled drastically, only slept with one girl from tinder that I had a 3 months fling with (granted I did turn down sex from a few girls). Overall much harder to get dates, even harder to get a second date. I realize I'm five years older now, but physically I'm the same physique and people always tell me I still look mid-late 20's.

I think more guys with game and looks started flooding the dating sites. Crap like Instagram, Snap Chat, Tinder have all come to fruition which has doubled or tripled women's options even further. I don't know, but I do know that lots of guys are having the same frustrations. 80/20 theory more apparent than ever.

 

[seasonedplayer]

Late to the party on this thread, but yes online dating gets more difficult by the day.

Five years ago on POF alone I was guaranteed to mess around with several new girls a month, getting laid and one night stands were pretty frequent. Tons of ongoing flings. Text book plate spinning basically. Reflecting back on 2015 that number dwindled drastically, only slept with one girl from tinder that I had a 3 months fling with (granted I did turn down sex from a few girls). Overall much harder to get dates, even harder to get a second date. I realize I'm five years older now, but physically I'm the same physique and people always tell me I still look mid-late 20's.

I think more guys with game and looks started flooding the dating sites. Crap like Instagram, Snap Chat, Tinder have all come to fruition which has doubled or tripled women's options even further. I don't know, but I do know that lots of guys are having the same frustrations. 80/20 theory more apparent than ever.

Couldn't agree with you more. The worst part about the dating apps is not only have they destroyed traditional online dating, but they have also destroyed the bar scene. I went out in NYC new years eve, kissed 2 girls at a club but couldn't get either to go back to my place that night. I know that if I message them this week for follow up, they will be probably both flake. Prior to internet dating, I definitely would have got one back to my place. Now they think they have all these options so no compulsion for them to act. Online dating is great if you want low quality 2s and 3s

 

[jgvisions]

I used online dating from March 2013 - August 2015 and in that time it did nothing but destroy my self-confidence to the point where I am now no longer interested in women anymore as I genuinely believe that 'm not good enough for anybody.

Main problems:

1. I'm 5ft 8ins in height. I received a LOT of hate for this. I saw so many profiles with "Don't message me if you're under 6ft" etc. and I even saw fat women with the "Real men love curves" meme as part of their photo gallery parroting the "no midgets" (midget being any man under 6ft) mantra.

2. The absolute entitlement of the women on these sites. They receive so many messages from thisrty simps that their ego is boosted off the charts. Even the most average of Plain Janes soon believes that she is now a HB8-9 deserving of only the best, and woe betide any man who dares to message her if he dosen't fit her criteria!

3. The double standards. Fat women demanding men who are in shape, and who have no problem in shaming men under 6ft, even if they're 5ft 1 and 200+ lbs themselves.

4. Grannies in their mid 50s (I'm 41) expecting men 10+ years thir junior.

It was ridiculous. All I saw was a procession of narcissistic, spoilt brats demanding Brad Pitt when they had little or nothing to offer themselves.
Obese single moms on welfare demanding a 6ft Christian Grey type. Women who look like Chris Farley demanding a man who looks like Chris Hemsworth.
I was called all kinds of insults for my appearance and height, despite lifting 4 times a week and having a physique that a lot of guys ten years my junior would be happy with. Two years. No dates. A string of insults. I walked away in the end.

My apologizes brother that you went through all of that. I am currently going through that as well but in a different manner. I am using POF and Tinder mainly and its one of the worst experiences I have had with online dating.

I'm getting the same crap as you. Single mothers with a chip on their shoulder. Fat chicks with extreme standards. Pregnant chicks.....****ING PREGNANT CHICKS WITH THE PICTURES TO PROVE IT are on here surfing and trying to bag way above their caliber.

I'm no body builder and I don't have a six pack but I'm fit as hell after two years in the military so my look has changed drastically. The thing that is now getting to me is the fact that I am attracting(ill explain below) old women or ugly women at random times.

Ever since going on leave for the first time, I got glared at multiple times at the airport(coming and going) by sub par females. Ugly chicks with square bodies and pancake asses, old women 50+ y/o standing with their husbands, or fat black chicks(not the cute kind that are proportionate). This **** pissed me off something fierce because its like this is what we are left with after these nasty bitches have road the **** carosel for most of their 20's. This is what we get after they flat out rejected to such an extreme its ridiculous.

 

[ubercat]

Dunno guys.I've got 3 probably 4 dates lined up this week from POF. more than I can handle to be honest. and I'm definitely nothing special. but the process was much crappier than in the old days. had to write a lot of messages pass many **** tests and lots of chicks were ph screening. they always seem to challenge your frame and many of them starts with passive aggressive b******* early on. however that is probably good as they screen them selves out.

and of course that doesn't mean they won't flake. but that is no different from Chicks you Meet in real. and for all the faults of o l d i Am yet to find anywhere else where 30s chicks r in numbers.

 

[Young OG]

Dunno guys.I've got 3 probably 4 dates lined up this week from POF. more than I can handle to be honest. and I'm definitely nothing special. but the process was much crappier than in the old days. had to write a lot of messages pass many **** tests and lots of chicks were ph screening. they always seem to challenge your frame and many of them starts with passive aggressive b******* early on. however that is probably good as they screen them selves out.

and of course that doesn't mean they won't flake. but that is no different from Chicks you Meet in real. and for all the faults of o l d i Am yet to find anywhere else where 30s chicks r in numbers.

You might think you have lots of dates lined up, but just wait till they flake lol. I'm done with OLD. I had disabled my accounts for a couple weeks and then re-enabled them a week ago. I've already deleted one and I'm about to delete the other now. You have to go through so many messages just to get some numbers. It's a huge waste of time. Nothing beats real world game. I would rather game face to face then over a dating app anyday.

 

[ubercat]

Agree and I coming around to double booking. However as u get older options in real narrow. Not crying how it is for many reasons.

 

[The Shoe]

Still the same here. I get regular offers to hook up, but a lot of them are involve the husband.

 

[Dynamited]

Talking to girls online can make pulling teeth more pleasurable. Lack of engagement, dead end replies, etc. And the flakes like some has mentioned and 2nd date flakes even after a good first one.

A lot of them are online not to date but to chat or for validation.

Screen hard and cut the leeches loose quickly

 

[Who Dares Win]

The main problem is that the buyer wants to buy, the seller just wants to get offer about his goods to gauge the value but has no intention to sell.

Thats the case of 90% of the interactions in OLD.

Unless of course you're a top 10% and offer a huge deal, in that case they may consider to sell but the price is anyway out of market standards.

Guys get satisfaction from sex so we have to do all the steps from the first "hello" to our d1cks filling them up like croissants, girls instead get pleasure simply by knowing they could have sex and getting that first "hello" in most of the cases shows that they can get it from you.

Wanna frustrate them? keep the conversation neutral and boring, while avoiding any sex bait from them.

 

[visions]

Welcome to the new world order in which men are no longer needed by women.

They have freedom like men and have white knight supporters. And if they fvck up in life the government will take care of them- no need for a man to do that.

 

[Kailex]

OLD took it's final jump into the dumpster once all those sites had mobile versions that you could pull up from your phone. Now it's 99% about how your best picture looks and the divide between that and the worse picture you post. Otherwise, forget it.

I got out of the OLD game a few years ago, never been more happier with the dating game since.

I like the odds to be in MY favor.

 

[Floydispink01]

Oh, I do miss the days of hitting the bars and clubs in the mid to late 90s before online dating when mobile phones were considered a privilege, and even then they were pretty shlt.

You meet a girl, get her home number, ring her house the next day, speak to her dad first, arrange a date, meet, repeat.

All this took courage because we knew no different.

Think I will start asking for their house number again when I'm out and request to speak to dad first!

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Online dating inflates the value of the ugly woman's vagina. Let's say you have a conservative 10-1 ratio of men to women on these sites. Then filter out the fat, arm sleeve tattooed, meth smoking, single mom's and it's more like 30-1.

 

[captain55]

Yep serial daters too. I know an 8/10 that works in a corporate office, is hit on by guys every day at the gym and at work, but checks her POF every day.

Fvck OLD

The majority of biatches on OLD are defective. The bottom of the barrel. They are either
socially retarded or physically defective. Look at it this way....it's easy for the average woman
to get laid/meet a guy.....because generally when they're out and about they are getting hit on...

So you have to ask yourself why aren't these biatches capable of meeting anybody in real??!!!!

Why are they online??? why are they not meeting people in real??? because they are defective bottom of the barrel ****e....

The problem also with OLD is that it was originally created for betas that can't meet women in real.....and just like on social media sites it's saturated with beta fvcks who are complimenting the fvck out of these defective biatches and thus giving them an overflated, exagerated opinion of themselves......fat whales thinking they are HB9's.......cross eyed Mary's thinking they are god's gift....

You'll always get the exception.......but generally I don't think it's worth the time suck.

Patience is a virtue, but we live in an instant society.

What kind of women are you after? Where/what kind of situations can you find her in real?

 

[MatureDJ]

Oh man the good ol' days, i haven't done this since like 1996 haha

You did this when you were 12?

 

[Colossus]

Late to the party here too, but I agree with Stig and others that 5-7 years ago I was killing it with OLD. Multiple new dates a month and usually 2 new lays a month, give or take. 2008-2010 especially. I wrote a chapter on OLD in my book, but it was odd because I had to keep it very general to account for the times, and even then I think my advice there is probably outdated.

My single buddy had pretty rotten experiences with Tinder and the new wave of OLD. I'm glad I got out of that scene before the Snapchat/Instagram/whatever-the-fvck-people-are-doing-now wave.