Has anyone lived or is living a life of sheer debauchery?

[deltabeta]

I'm talking about orgies, booze, drugs, and no moral responsibility. I think social morals are overrated anyway, I kinda agree with what Nietzsche said about defining our own morals and sticking to them (Genealogy of Morals). So has anyone led or is living this kinda lifestyle and wants to give some insight to it? I've always found a life of debauchery interesting.

 

[deltabeta]

I meet some of the criteria.

Now I'm pretty young so a lot of this stuff doesn't run in my circles, or at least orgies don't often. The rest, does. I've done just about every drug imagineable, save for things like heroin and cocaine / crack and meth. But most party drugs and prescriptions. Not much to this life besides misery, I can assure you that, although it is damn fun in the moment.

I find myself never really caring about consequences. I think before I act, but somehow will justify what I'm doing with a simple "Who gives a sh!t?" Like when I have sex. I'll bring a condom but never use it because, well, it feels better. And it's risky which is half the fun (for me). I'll take MDMA when I have to be back home in 4 hours and know my parents will be awake with my irises nowhere to be seen in my eye. Just blackness.

I've been to my fair share of parties and done some pretty crazy stuff. Lots of drinking, toking, fvcking, and forgetting. Lots of horrible police experiences, parents coming home, fights breaking out, you name it.

I'm building up to it. College will be the time I truly live this life, no bars held. I almost feel though, that it won't be all it's cracked up to be. That I'll get bored in a year or so. Maybe that's just me.

Good for you if you go on to live this life in college. I'm a 3rd year and barely have time for parties, let alone drugs and orgies. University isn't really as they show in the movies unless you're not serious about studies. Going for a 4.0 and maintaining social life can be a bit hard. Especially for me, I have a general dislike for people and being extremely introverted doesn't help either.

 

[thatfeel]

I'm talking about orgies, booze, drugs, and no moral responsibility. I think social morals are overrated anyway, I kinda agree with what Nietzsche said about defining our own morals and sticking to them (Genealogy of Morals). So has anyone led or is living this kinda lifestyle and wants to give some insight to it? I've always found a life of debauchery interesting.

Nietzsche was an interesting fellow but I'm not sure I'd strive for his ideals. Maybe marcus aurelius, instead, who believed that the goal was not to have found yourself on the side of the majority but to have found yourself having escaped the ranks of the insane(which Nietzsche became).

 

[deltabeta]

Nietzsche was an interesting fellow but I'm not sure I'd strive for his ideals. Maybe marcus aurelius, instead, who believed that the goal was not to have found yourself on the side of the majority but to have found yourself having escaped the ranks of the insane(which Nietzsche became).

Yeah, I'm reading Meditations by Marcus, he seem a pretty wise fellow. I lean heavily on Albert Camus and his essays. I still remember chills running down my spine as I was grasping and internalizing the ideology behind "The Stranger".

 

[Bingo-Player]

when i was younger i would constantly be involved in a lot of crazy sh1t

drugs, sex , fights , alcohol take your pick

when i was 18/19/20 my body and mind could take the punishment but as i started
getting into my early 20’s the hangovers the depression and the police started catching up with me

being constantly tired and grumpy isn’t much fun especially when you have to work 40 hrs a week and go to the gym

i started cutting down at 21 & 22 still on the scene but not feeling the need to be there every single weekend

and this year I’m more than happy to go to the gym , grab a pizza and watch some tv on a Saturday night instead

pu$$y supply has decreasedbut i have a lot more money now and seem much more healthier and happier

 

[Poonani Maker]

Good for you if you go on to live this life in college. I'm a 3rd year and barely have time for parties, let alone drugs and orgies. University isn't really as they show in the movies unless you're not serious about studies. Going for a 4.0 and maintaining social life can be a bit hard. Especially for me, I have a general dislike for people and being extremely introverted doesn't help either.

You will be 'ok' in the future. Let them fvck themselves and their future. I was a Total non-partier in college, didn't smoke my first joint until senior year high school and it was laced with something (called Russian dope) totally messed me up first time (even though they said no one "gets high" first time, I did because of the extra whatever it was laced with). Had that same powerful "whatever it was" slipped in on whatever I was smoking while playing pool in college. Tattooed hoe gave this blunt to me. I just was the prep school always do what I'm told, go to college, get my degree naive kid, and I did, albeit 3 years later than I should have graduated. Anyway, I pretty much stayed clean all those years until I got in a STABLE career. I've NEVER been as debauch as I have been in my early 30s to now 40s, and I don't see it stopping either, until I'm, I guess, 50. All through this fvck-yeah fest I've been through life-threatening surgery (last July - I'd never been in a hospital for Anything before then), rebounded again and back at it with the complete orgy, and I never tire of it lol. I'm having the time of my life, even though I should, you know, stop having so much fun, because I need to get outta debt quicker and take care of biz, but I figure I only got a few more years until I can't pass off being younger anymore. My aging is showing in my inner thigh, the stretch, my face is quite fine, arms legs, abs, butt, pecks, fine, it's just he area below my balls that shows my age as of THIS year. You can't stop it.

 

[JohnChops]

Hehe I hope we all live a life that has some type of debauchery in it. Mainly just Friday or Saturday for me. I thought after college id have a little more time, however I'm still stuck in the college schedule rut. Gotta start parting more during the week lol

 

[NSX-R]

No, I never drink, no smoke , no drugs , I've been only 3 times in my life into fights because they forced me to( beaten those guys really hard that i had to change school) . I see no reason to do such stuff. Most of the people will say drugs or alcohol makes them happy but it's nothing more than an illusion. Smoking brings only bad things like : bad breath, yellow teeth, stinky clothes and many other unattractive things. But I wouldn't mind having sex with more than 1 females at the same time.
In ancient Greece they were saying "παν μέτρον άριστον" which means " All in good measure, all in moderation, moderation is the best thing. " So have this in mind.

 

[Huffman]

No, I never drink, no smoke , no drugs , I've been only 3 times in my life into fights because they forced me to( beaten those guys really hard that i had to change school) . I see no reason to do such stuff. Most of the people will say drugs or alcohol makes them happy but it's nothing more than an illusion. Smoking brings only bad things like : bad breath, yellow teeth, stinky clothes and many other unattractive things. But I wouldn't mind having sex with more than 1 females at the same time.
In ancient Greece they were saying "παν μέτρον άριστον" which means " All in good measure, all in moderation, moderation is the best thing. " So have this in mind.

Same here. I do drink alot though, but since I'm a native Bavarian that is to be expected.

 

[3agle 3yes]

Op, I'm seeing aspects of self-loathing in your posts (maybe I'm wrong).

Good for you if you go on to live this life in college. I'm a 3rd year and barely have time for parties, let alone drugs and orgies. University isn't really as they show in the movies unless you're not serious about studies. Going for a 4.0 and maintaining social life can be a bit hard. Especially for me, I have a general dislike for people and being extremely introverted doesn't help either.

Personally, I've never cared for orgies and taking drugs...most of us have done things in the past when we were young to fit in and be social but it all becomes stupid when you mature and grow into an adult (when I say "adult" I'm speaking metaphorically more than literally).

Do we do these things so we can get approval from other people and so we can be seen as "cool" in the eyes of others or is it something we genuinely want to do?

This isn't an indignation of guys who live like that but it's a more feminine way of living imo, because there is a clear sign of imbalance.

It's very feminine to live life "in the moment" and show disregard for consequences, it's feminine to have no direction and not be particularly purposeful, t's feminine to mostly be concerned for how you feel and concern yourself with the short-term over the long term.

A sign of real maturity and being a man (imo) is when you start living your life BEYOND just yourself and when you take responsibility for other people.

If you're not enjoying University op, leave.

If you want to be more social, why not think out of the box and integrate it into your life?

Make it a goal to to have a career in something where you meet a lot of people, go to parties AND earn money.

 

[gravityeyelids]

Nietzsche explored nihilism not ethical hedonism. He wasn't advocating a life of pure debauchery and irresponsibility. He was rebeling against the idea that you have to adhere to what he viewed as arbitrary moral codes and the preference for logic and reason over passion and art. Sorry but it irritates me when people misunderstand him as his philosophy is far more textured than simply "Christianity is stupid and life is meaningless".

As for the lifestyle... You get what what's coming eventually. Health issues, pregnancy, STDs, money problems, lack of respect. It's better in theory and is only sustainable for a short period of time. It sounds far more romantic than it is. Life is not a movie or novel. Do what you want I guess, but after doing a lot of stupid **** when I was younger, I will say that things like damaging your mind, body and financial status stick with you for a long fvxking time

 

[Alvafe]

My personal opinion is, those institutions of so-called higher learning are oppressive.

I am personally convinced that Nietzsche and Camus and Morrison probably would think the same.

At the very least I distrust colleges and universities. They are dominated by females, as almost every university and college these days seemingly features a female hierarchy at the top of the chain and the feminist ideology is being fed to men and women alike in classrooms across the country.

Which is why I haven't given a f****** penny to my alma mater--and they ask me for money all the time.

Don't be fooled by the pretentious show of colleges and universities. Their number one agenda is taking money from your pocket and putting it in theirs.

A courtroom, a job, and a university all have one thing in common: they are designed to intimidate and subjugate.

Those who oppose such institutions are contained, conformed, or even outright killed.

Jim Morrison paraphrasing school: you can get a lot out of it, but you can get a lot of harm from it too.

I personally think that the same thing could be said of a person who lives a life of debauchery.

you shouldn't trust anyone, that is the deal, but you will need to learn how to play it, the ones who fight against it are the ones who are most ****ed up by it, if you learn to play it and then change it inside of it you will be a lot more successful, college, goverment, your boss, parents, other people all of then want something from you, the thing is you have to give then something as long you get something from it and play it.

for the op you really need to read Nietzsche again, the poster before me are right about him, he want more you question things and not follow 2 standards based on what the state or religion want, you do have some morals, you do follow some ethics you wanting or not, you should question morals like why killing in the name of some god is ok but doing so for any other reason is not, why I have to pay taxes if the very ones who accept such bill do not, why I have to support someone I don't even know with my work when he only wnat to play victim and blame everyone for his lazyness.

the Whole idea is to question things and undertand why they are what they are, blind following it for the sake of oh my parents did it so its good enough for me. to not be brainwashed by customs you don't really even know why but you do so becasue you never even dared to question it.

for the whole rock and roll and drugs thing, the most was a threesome once and I don't even know I pulled that out, I bet I was a just good excuse for then to experience it, hence why I never saw then again after. drugs I don't find the need, mostly I take are beer wine or some vodka here and there and I never lose myself on in, I never let my guard down, also you do have some morals, you do follow some ethics you wanting or not, you should question morals like why killing in the name of some god is ok but doing so for any other reason is not, why I have to pay taxes if the very ones who accept such bill do not, why I have to support someone I don't even know with my work when he only wnat to play victim and blame everyone for his lazyness.

 

[deltabeta]

Nietzsche explored nihilism not ethical hedonism. He wasn't advocating a life of pure debauchery and irresponsibility. He was rebeling against the idea that you have to adhere to what he viewed as arbitrary moral codes and the preference for logic and reason over passion and art. Sorry but it irritates me when people misunderstand him as his philosophy is far more textured than simply "Christianity is stupid and life is meaningless".

As for the lifestyle... You get what what's coming eventually. Health issues, pregnancy, STDs, money problems, lack of respect. It's better in theory and is only sustainable for a short period of time. It sounds far more romantic than it is. Life is not a movie or novel. Do what you want I guess, but after doing a lot of stupid **** when I was younger, I will say that things like damaging your mind, body and financial status stick with you for a long fvxking time

"He wasn't advocating a life of pure debauchery and irresponsibility"- I didn't mean that he advocated such life and nietzsche backing up debauchery isn't the point of my post. What I wanted to get out was we live a morally restricted world and that morals can be adapted to who we are. I'd definitely read him again though.