My Newest Supplements

[amazingswayze]

Hello all. Swayze here.

I'm almost finished with my whey protein isolate and I finished my green tea extract so I decided it was time to stock up on supplements once again and try something different.

This time around, I don't want to use a stimulant fat burner.

Bodybuilding.com has a few promotions so I bought buy one get one free 180 capsules CLA and 120 capsules L-Carnitine. This is roughly a 4 month supply of each. (~$50)
I also got 5lbs Gold Standard Whey (with free glutamine) and 4lbs Gold Standard Casein. (~$100)

My rationale:
I want to lose weight. Whey is a must have, so I bought in bulk. I won't be running out anytime soon. I want to give Casein a try. I am very hungry often but I am trying to maintain a calorie deficit so hopefully it helps with my satiation and stop me from going catabolic. I know people say it is only a nighttime protein but I want to see if it's worth it for me. Studies show that it works great in combination with whey. I'm really just experimenting to see if I feel better by taking it.

Instead of getting something loaded with caffeine, I opted for CLA and L-Carnitine. They are supposed to work well when combined.

I've tried CLA before but I wasn't serious about my diet. Now, maybe I'll lose faster since I'm watching what I eat. L-Carnitine might help as well. It costs a bit but since it's a 4-month supply, I'm not complaining. I'm just experimenting to see what helps me.

In conclusion:
5 lbs Gold Standard Whey - $50
4 lbs natural Casein - $55
2 (BOGO) 180 CLA capsules - $25
2 (BOGO) 120 L-Carnitine capsules - $20
Glutamine - 60 capsules (free)
New 32 oz. blender bottle w/ whisk for supposedly chunky casein (free gift)
Body fat caliper w/ tape measure so I can finally measure my friggin' body.

Costed me $150 for a 4 month supply of supplements, maybe longer, but I'm excited. I'll post pics of the order if I can.

 

[thatfeel]

I hate to be a buzzkill but you really should just get a crock pot and buy boneless chicken in bulk. Far cheaper and overall better for you.

 

[amazingswayze]

I hate to be a buzzkill but you really should just get a crock pot and buy boneless chicken in bulk. Far cheaper and overall better for you.

buzz... killed...

you're probably right.

i haven't been doing any meal prep. maybe this is something i have to learn if i want to take my fitness lifestyle to the next level. I don't mind that you said that dude, it's good advice.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Whey is most definitely NOT a must...in fact I haven't used whey in over 2 years now...in roughly 60-70% of people using it, it causes chronic inflammation and bloating. Personally I'd recommend a combination of Green Pea Protein and Brown Rice Protein. Nearly identical Amino Acid profile to whey without the bloating.

 

[amazingswayze]

Whey is most definitely NOT a must...in fact I haven't used whey in over 2 years now...in roughly 60-70% of people using it, it causes chronic inflammation and bloating. Personally I'd recommend a combination of Green Pea Protein and Brown Rice Protein. Nearly identical Amino Acid profile to whey without the bloating.

i guess that's just what most people believe then. i can't tell if i have been bloating, i feel normal. no complaints with whey but it wouldn't hurt to try out a different protein. thanks dude.

 

[thatfeel]

My biggest "complaint" with whey and any protein supplement in particular is that the marketing and sales ride on the back of "expert sources"(aka, enhanced bodybuilders) proclaiming high amounts of protein per/lb of body weight. This makes it really easy to get into the mind set that you need whey or protein supplements because it's a simple way to meet your intakes. And then some people fall into the trap of making it a large portion of their daily protein intake. Both variables combined make it easy to get bought into the idea that protein supplementation is necessary.

I mean just check out the RDI values for protein and decide for yourself:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/DRI/DRI_Tables/recommended_intakes_individuals.pdf

 

[amazingswayze]

so maybe whey isn't necessary, but it doesnt change the fact that i get hungry. 50 grams of protein a day just won't cut it. my body tells me when to eat and i just follow that instinct. so yeah, i can get my protein from another source such as chicken...

good thing is, this stuff will last me for the next few months so that is ample time to develop new habits in the kitchen like meal prep. i'm learning. we all are. it's a journey. i won't regret buying this stuff.

 

[Tenacity]

Swayze,

- Can you post some pictures?

- What's an example of your eating and exercise plan?

- Protein Shakes can cause bloating, just want to reduce the amount of them you consume. If I consume too much, my stomach hurts.

- Sign up for the Upromise Mastercard and also sign up for Upromise. You can get 10% cashback at BB.com just through this. From there, try to stack up on BB.com products during one of three times of the year:

* Your Birthday: They usually will send a 10% off coupon on everything in the store. When you use this with the Upromise Mastercard, that's 20% off in total (of course a portion will be in the form of cashback).

* During the Supplement Awards: If you vote, they usually will give you a 10% or 20% coupon. Again use this with the Upromise Mastercard to double the savings.

* During Cyber Monday After Thanksgiving: They usually will give you a 20% off coupon. Using this with the Upromise Mastercard gets you 30%.

 

[amazingswayze]

Swayze,

- Can you post some pictures?

- What's an example of your eating and exercise plan?

- Protein Shakes can cause bloating, just want to reduce the amount of them you consume. If I consume too much, my stomach hurts.

- Sign up for the Upromise Mastercard and also sign up for Upromise. You can get 10% cashback at BB.com just through this. From there, try to stack up on BB.com products during one of three times of the year:

* Your Birthday: They usually will send a 10% off coupon on everything in the store. When you use this with the Upromise Mastercard, that's 20% off in total (of course a portion will be in the form of cashback).

* During the Supplement Awards: If you vote, they usually will give you a 10% or 20% coupon. Again use this with the Upromise Mastercard to double the savings.

* During Cyber Monday After Thanksgiving: They usually will give you a 20% off coupon. Using this with the Upromise Mastercard gets you 30%.

Alright Tenacity, here's the link to my bodyspace. It has progress photos.
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/MRLPC/

As far as diet goes, I'm on a calorie restricted diet. There's no real structure to what I eat. It's sandwich wraps, greek yogurt, protein bars, misc. My mom cooks rice and beans, chicken, sometimes italian dishes, etc. for dinner. I'm just trying to eat high-protein foods while staying under ~2000 cal. I use an app called LoseIt! to count my calories and stay on track with my weight loss. It's been going well so far.

As for my exercise plan, it's 5 days of training Monday-Friday. It's a 9-week training program I found on bodybuilding.com. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/james-grage-rewired-9-week-fitness-trainer-main-overview.html

Good advice all around, except I'm scared to get a credit card. I don't have any source of income. Those savings sound nice but it's once in a blue moon I order from BB.com

Anyways, there you have it; my progress pics. I'm 5'7, ~160 right about now.

I eat high protein snacks, mostly pre-packaged foods like REV wraps and sometimes Hot Pockets. My mom keeps buying this stuff so I eat it.

Thanks for the insight, Tenacity.

 

[thatfeel]

Btw I didn't mean you need to follow the RDI values for protein intake I just wanted to put into perspective how ludicrous some of the protein suggestions are. You'd probably be fine with 100g of protein a day.

Are you absolutely positive you're counting calories from everything including all of the ingredients that your mom puts into her dishes? I know this sounds kind of lame to do but in the long run it's important.

As an aside you should continue to cut. You're going to look sick when you get to lower BF levels even though you're not huge or "swoll" right now.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Btw I didn't mean you need to follow the RDI values for protein intake I just wanted to put into perspective how ludicrous some of the protein suggestions are. You'd probably be fine with 100g of protein a day.

Are you absolutely positive you're counting calories from everything including all of the ingredients that your mom puts into her dishes? I know this sounds kind of lame to do but in the long run it's important.

As an aside you should continue to cut. You're going to look sick when you get to lower BF levels even though you're not huge or "swoll" right now.

He's not taking AAS, there is no such thing as bulking or cutting.

The maximum amount of protein that has shown muscle growth is 0.64g/lb of bodyweight...that is, any amount of protein above that amount has not shown in any clinical study to have any effect on muscle growth. The longer you have been training and the closer to your genetic potential you are, the LESS protein you need as the body becomes hyper-efficient at using it and you are breaking down less muscle tissue, hence repairing less as well...

 

[Young OG]

Way to many supplements. I got decently ripped from a gainer and creatine. I also started using bio gro 2 months ago now. To much protein powder gives me bad gas and stomach aches.

 

[amazingswayze]

Btw I didn't mean you need to follow the RDI values for protein intake I just wanted to put into perspective how ludicrous some of the protein suggestions are. You'd probably be fine with 100g of protein a day.

Are you absolutely positive you're counting calories from everything including all of the ingredients that your mom puts into her dishes? I know this sounds kind of lame to do but in the long run it's important.

As an aside you should continue to cut. You're going to look sick when you get to lower BF levels even though you're not huge or "swoll" right now.

yeah man i do the best i can to count calories in my mom's dinners. for example, last night we had ravioli.

I scanned the bag of ravioli, got the exact nutrient content and i had 9 pieces. I accounted for the mozzarella cheese, the diced tomatoes, and the italian sausage all mixed up in the dish. i'll be honest though, i still am eyeballing measurements. ex: tonight we had grilled chicken breast. I had 2 and a half breast and I assumed it was 10 oz.

so, weighing my food is the only way i'm slipping up i guess...

 

[amazingswayze]

Way to many supplements. I got decently ripped from a gainer and creatine. I also started using bio gro 2 months ago now. To much protein powder gives me bad gas and stomach aches.

wtf is bio gro?

 

[Young OG]

wtf is bio gro?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/isatori/bio-gro.html

 

[thatfeel]

Another product of marketing.

 

[RecoveringNiceGuy]

Don't waste your money on Whey. Been there, done that. Just buy meat from the store, there's almost always beef or chicken on sale at some Kroger or Meijer or Giant Eagle or wherever. You can get chuck or round for $3-4 / lb or ground beef or bratwurst for $2.79 / lb. I guess whey isn't too bad to have as a snack, but the more of your diet is meats and vegetables the better.

 

[Maurutian]

Nice deals there. I am comparing the prices and products with supplemented.co.uk and am stuck. I dont know where to make my order. You can have look and help me out.

 

[amazingswayze]

Nice deals there. I am comparing the prices and products with supplemented.co.uk and am stuck. I dont know where to make my order. You can have look and help me out.

i think this one is obvious. bodybuilding.com is more reputable, has better specials, and when i went on supplemented.co.uk, i couldn't even find whey. maybe i'm biased, but i dont like the site you showed me. only problem is if you live in the UK, shipping from bb.com might be a little expensive. good luck.