Time frame of seeing next date

zinc4

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Just wanted to see what has been working gir you guys. Lately, I've been setting up the next date at the end of a current date regardless of second or third date or what not but its probably killing some mystery and intrigue. Might increase their attraction to wait a few days to set up next date.

Are u guys always waiting a day or so after the current date to get in contact and set up the next date? And how many dates before being more transparent?

I got my fourth date with my top plate on Saturday already slept with her twice....have set each date up at the end of current one, though....not sure how much it has hurt me if any with her...she sent me lots of texts right after our datevthus past Saturday in which she stayed over most of Sunday....but still I like to have these girls completely worshipping me...

I'm usually not one for playing games, but I feel like that might not be enough mystery there early on lately with my plates....between date planning and texting, my dating game is a little rusty no doubt.
 

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On a couple of my early dates with my last girl (who eventually dumped me), I made the mistake of fishing for some feedback of whether we would see each other again. Eventually I corrected the problem, but it was too late. Don't do it.

"Well, I had fun [bowling, watching a movie, hanging out, whatever]. Good night." That's all you say. And then maybe kiss her if you feel it's appropriate.

And I wouldn't call the next day either. Seems stupid. Even with my last chick I knew better than to do that.
 

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A girl doesn't want to go from being single straight to being in a relationship. When guys insist that every date be followed by another date quickly, that is the message men send. Then we demonize the women who "have low interest".

When it comes to HB9's, just going out once or twice a month for the first 3 months is enough for the relationship to blossom. Never make plans at the end of the date. Wait until she writes again.

Allow the pace to develop at the rate of her INITIATING, not the rate of her replying.

Realistic Example:

March 1 - you first meet.
March 8 - you see her again and realize she likes you.
March 15 - you get her number.
March 16 - first time she responds to your text message.
March 22 - first time she initiates a text message.
April 1 - first date. Casual date. You start talking to your friends about her.
April 2 - she writes to thank you and you say she is welcome. You go MIA.
April 8 - she initiates again.
April 15 - schedule second date (she is out of town).
April 22 - second date. Romance date.
April 29 - she initiates again.
May 6 - schedule third date (deal with delay).
May 13 - reschedule third date.
May 20 - third date (sex likely at this point).
May 28 - holiday weekend (you are out of town).
June 1 - she is now initiating once or twice a week. You text 3-4 days per week (never every day). She starts talking to her friends about you.

Notice it takes 3 months time and 2 months of dating for the woman to have real feelings. The guy had feelings after one month of just knowing her.

Each step takes about one week. The guy wants each step to take 1 day, meaning by March 15 she would be initiating once a week. That's not likely to happen with the hottest girls in town.
 

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Men, that's why I sleep with them first date to get the feelings rolling faster and to get what I want....sexofcourse....I do need to implement less eagerness though for sure with the higher quality ones.

Also, didn't mention I flaked twice on the girl described in my op after our first date..perhaps that's why she's still interested.. Was some push and pull on.my part....was also 20 mins late to our 2nd date which she acted flustered about...
 

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On one hand, it's best to sleep with them right away. That maximizes HER interest. However, no matter how hot they are, if they put out on the first date, I tend to lose interest. Then I want nothing to do with them. Years later I'll think "Man, that girl was so hot, why didn't I like her more?"

Meanwhile, if the guy waits too long, he will start to get oneitis. Thus, the pace above works in a way where you both end up liking one another. I find that the best sex is after 2 months of dating. Thus, it works best when you have 3 girls just like her!

In my favorite Married with Children episode, the next door neighbor is on Al Bundy's couch and Al is telling him about some girl from his past. At some point the guy leans in and says "So Al... did you DO her?" and Al replies "Now Ed. If I did her, would I still be talking about her after all this time?"
 

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zinc4 said:
I'm usually not one for playing games...
I just wanted to point this out because many guys, myself included when I first started dating, get brainwashed into thinking that any tactics they may use to try and attract a woman are considered "playing games" and are, therefore, dishonest and shouldn't be used.

However, this is far from the truth. In reality, it's not about "playing games;" rather, it's about understanding that the pacing at which you go from not knowing a girl to being in a relationship with her matters, and that doing things too quickly can ruin her growing attraction to you.

The most famous example, of course, is the question of "how many days do you wait between dates to call and set up the next one?" Guys that are not that dating savvy will tell you that waiting longer than a day to call her is "playing games" and will cause the girl to lose interest. If you ask them why they consider it game playing, they'll logically rationalize that if a girl is showing signals of interest on date one, she must (a) be communicated with constantly, (b) have assurance from him that he has like for her, and (c) get taken out by him again as soon as possible. Not doing these things, they believe, will result in her losing interest because she'll see him as a "player" and someone who's using "games" to try and win her over.

However, these guys are looking into the actions being done as "game," instead of having an understanding of why these actions are taken in the first place. For example: when dating a new girl, I take her out, show her a good time, then wait 4 days to hit her up. Some would consider that "game playing;" I, however, understand that a woman's imagination is your BEST ally in getting her to become MORE attracted to you. If you show her a good time on a date and treat her better than any other guy has recently treated her, her brain will help increase her like for you by thinking about not only how good you treated her on the date, but how good you'd treat her were you and her to become an official thing.

This means having to think about what you might be like in bed; what other kinds of dates you might go on together; how well you might get along with her friends... and what do all these things have in common? Simple: it's things that she think MIGHT happen, and even thought they have not ACTUALLY happened, her brain is going to make her FEEL like it already has.

BUT...

That can only happen if she is actually given distance from you! If you're calling/texting her the next day, or trying to fit a date in every other day with her, you're KILLING the chances your ally (her brain) has at making her develop those stronger feelings for you. Thus, why it's better to wait a few days after a date to call her - by then, you have FOUR DAYS worth of positive thoughts about you that her brain has made her think of. Combine that with the fact that if you haven't called by day 3 she feels like she may have lost you to someone else (thus making her think you're desirable to other females), and she'll end up being so elated when you call on day 4 that she'll not only accept the date, but probably end up hooking up with you in an attempt to hold your interest!

But again - it's "playing games," right? No - again, it's simply understanding why handling a certain part of the dating cycle is important when trying to get maximum results. So, if you happen to know what things to do, say, or when to make certain moves, understand that (a) it's not "Playing games," and (b) on the off-chance it was, so what? Girls respect (and score) with dudes that they KNOW know how to play it anyway!
 

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Great thread. Fully agree with bigneil. Let her wait for sex. It's so much sweeter. AFCs would want to close the deal on the first date. Although she will be connected to you after you fvcked her yours and her subsequent would wane. Show her you alpha and make her wait. You will get her eating out of your hands .
 

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On one hand, it's best to sleep with them right away. That maximizes HER interest. However, no matter how hot they are, if they put out on the first date, I tend to lose interest. Then I want nothing to do with them.
this is the worst mindset a guy could have, it's the rough equivalent of saying "the pizza guy delivered my food early, now I'm not even hungry anymore"
 

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Not something you should be worrying about at all.

Are you spinning plates? Do you have a busy life? When you spread your attention to various women (and hobbies), this kind of insecurity doesn't come up. The woman should always have the higher level of interest. You should be busy enough in your life that you're not worrying about the timeline. A woman with high interest will be interested regardless.

As a general rule, you don't benefit from making women feel too secure. Move too fast (emotionally not sexually) and she will lose interest fast. If you wait a week to reach out again, she will usually have sex with you much faster AND have higher interest. Why? Because you seem like a man with OPTIONS. A man's level of availability is directly proportionate to this options. Being too available means you have limited options (loser alert). If she ignores you for waiting a week to reach out, she wasn't that interested to begin with. The hotter the woman, the more aloof you have to be. Desperate, thirsty, faggots are already giving her undivided attention. You don't stand out (or show value) by drooling just as much as ever other dude.

Also, this should not be a game. You should really be spinning plates and not obsessing over the timeline with any ONE girl. These b!tches haven't proven themselves until you have sex with them. So until sex happens, don't prioritize a woman. Keep living your life and stick to your normal schedule. Make time for her when its convenient for you.
 

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