My PUA friend gave me VERY GOOD advice about girls and dating

[Tomatoes]

Only works if it doesnt mix with Oneitis problems.....

 

[skip2mylou781]

well to follow up on this theory, I applied it just last night on my ex who i last saw 7 months ago who i was IN LOVE with, but she broke up with me cuz she wasnt feelin it as much (cuz i was actin like an AFC in the relationship, so after seein this site, I dont blame her!).....anyway, i had told her b4 shes a heartless ***** and id never talk to her, but last nite i IMed her and say heyyy and we talked for bout 2 hours, basically about lotsa serious stuff (but not too much about US), and at the end she said "it was nice talkin to you hun".....I must say, that WAS a burned bridge which ISNT BURNED ANYMORE!!!

btw she just got dumped by her ex who SHE had one-itis for, and i feel that THIS is how u can take advantage of nto buring bridges

 

[donovan]

Tyler Durden has a great post on that topic, about guys who NEXT a girl for flaking. He talks about the reasons that girls flake, and what to do about it.

If you want it, its here.

 

[skip2mylou781]

wow that Tyler DUrden thing is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD AND RIGHT ON THE MONEY

 

[d9930380]

So basically hang around until you can get her on drugs and then **** her. Genius, next you'll be saying to drop her some ruffies ;-)

Seriously though, the problem with this approach is that when a girl flakes or plays games and you ignore them, she will just think you don't have the intelligence to catch on or the self confidence to walk away.

As allways - It's not a bad thing to keep in mind but you have to be able to read the situation and know when to use it appropriately.

 

[skip2mylou781]

U SHOW UR CONFIDENCE BY SHOWING THAT U DONT NOTICE OR CARE ABOUT HER *****Y BEHAVIOR - and its not bad to ring her up like once every 2 weeks, she wont think its stalking or anything like that.

 

[Macgyver]

I disagree.

Burning bridges will encourage you to be stronger and efficient, only boys who have too much time on their hands enjoy being masochistic and keep trying and trying just to get some 5 minute sex action.

In war, you do not play around with delay or pursue tactics. You either Kill or Wait and See. I'm not saying you should throw away contact with a person just because they disrespected you once, but several times should give you a hint to stop. Those who keep trying, they remind me of a car salesman slick willie who thinks he can weasel his way in trying to manipulate me to buy the car that I want, he only thinks of the commission dollars just like the PUA who only thinks of the 5 minute sex.

Another thing, I just recently got rid of a friend who I burned bridges who kept calling week after week for several months trying to get me to hang out with him. I never responded to a single call. That friend reminds me of some of you who think that persistent calling works, not really it just shows you're a little boy whose pretending to be confident.

 

[aftershock]

I'm in favour of deletion.

It's so easy, and fun, to go out and pick up more numbers, rather than waste time with the ones that are flaking on you.

I'm not in favour of saying "You're deleted, ho" (though I've done that in the past on rare occasions where it is truly warrented), but just ignore her.

 

[belividere]

well to follow up on this theory, I applied it just last night on my ex who i last saw 7 months ago who i was IN LOVE with, but she broke up with me cuz she wasnt feelin it as much (cuz i was actin like an AFC in the relationship, so after seein this site, I dont blame her!).....anyway, i had told her b4 shes a heartless ***** and id never talk to her, but last nite i IMed her and say heyyy and we talked for bout 2 hours, basically about lotsa serious stuff (but not too much about US), and at the end she said "it was nice talkin to you hun".....I must say, that WAS a burned bridge which ISNT BURNED ANYMORE!!!

btw she just got dumped by her ex who SHE had one-itis for, and i feel that THIS is how u can take advantage of nto buring bridges

I think this is a case where you should delete and cut of contact...unless you just want a female friend. If a girl flakes thats one thing, I mean people have lives and things happen which are out of their control. But a girl who dumps you months back isnt worth contacting again. You might be able to rebound and get a cheap lay but what the hell else would you even expect out this?

The rule that I have subscribed to for a long time now which has been successful for me is to call a girl twice within a week or so and if she doesn't call back then to ignore her. I wont necessarily delete her but I'll forget about it and not call back. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I will say though that I've done a little drunk dialing in my day and gotten flakes to come around.

 

[sam21]

I sent to my girl an e-mail saying to her all kind of insults.. cos I thought she deserved it cos she was doing a lot of sh1t and I read the art of seduction and I deduced she was a drama queen. [bad move]

I regret it now..

never be too rude.

I think there are 2 things that completely ruins your chances with a girl.

1- beeing too nice
2- beeing too rude

you must keep the balance and be patience.

I did call her 2 weeks after the insults.. and she cut me off. now she's seeing another guy. a nice guy that she can play dumb.

whatever.. b1tch.

anyway I'm gonna be calling her once per 2 weeks at least. beeing patience and perseverating is great.

 

[belividere]

I sent to my girl an e-mail saying to her all kind of insults.. cos I thought she deserved it cos she was doing a lot of sh1t and I read the art of seduction and I deduced she was a drama queen. [bad move]

I regret it now..

never be too rude.

I think there are 2 things that completely ruins your chances with a girl.

1- beeing too nice
2- beeing too rude

you must keep the balance and be patience.

I did call her 2 weeks after the insults.. and she cut me off. now she's seeing another guy. a nice guy that she can play dumb.

whatever.. b1tch.

anyway I'm gonna be calling her once per 2 weeks at least. beeing patience and perseverating is great.

Why would you do that? You two are over. For fvcks sake you just called her a ***** in the line before saying that you are going to stalk her.

I really think you guys are misinterpreting this. If a girl flakes on you, or does something minor, than you can go ahead and retain limited contact. You have no idea what happened to her that caused her to that, she may have family/work/school/boyfriend/ex problems or whatever that caused your pickup to be at a bad time. You give it a little while and try again and see if she is more receptive. On the other hand though, she probably doesn't want anything to do with you and wants you to take the hint.

This is a good idea for girls that you hardly now and have never been involved with. The idea isn't to call back girls who outright dumped you. These girls will not want you back, you blew it just move on. There are millions of girls out there for your own mental health why dont you just find on of them. Hell maybe you can find one that actually likes you and wont flake or show a total lack of interest.

 

[aftershock]

This guys got it spot on.

 

[mrRuckus]

"Dude if she ignores u or doesnt call back or flakes or this or that, act like it does not phase you THE LEAST BIT, and give a call back in a week or 2 saying hey wats up. It doesnt kill you to call and be friendly with a girl for 3 minutes acting like nothing happened. Doing this gives you more power, as she will see you dont even NOTICE her flaking, thus she'll have absolutely no reason to NOT wanna see you.

My gf would assume you're too dumb to get the point. She's ignoring you or flaking on you and you're still calling. All this would do to her is make her feel more smug... not give you more power. It wouldn't surprise me if she saw through the "pretending not to notice" bit.

 

[skip2mylou781]

my PUA friend gave me this advice, and its worked for him....hell even twice i can remember it worked for me that after a girl flaked, I called her up in the future, was friendly to her, and then ended up ****ing her

 

[skip2mylou781]

the other time, it was a girl online who didnt wanna meet up after we talked for a while...so we didnt talk for bout 6 months, then i got some new pics up, she liked them alot and invited me over, we hung out and then ended up fvcking........see what not burning bridges sets u up for??

 

[MacDaddy]

The world is full of men who have kept in contact with girls, some for 10 years and supported them through many boyfriends without sniffing the furry cat. You will probably fcuk 10 - 20% of these women but is it really worth the time. No matter what anyone says if you have known a girl for 1 year, want to fcuk her and not fcuked her, this is oneitis. Think of the damage to your self esteem, taking disrespect from a girl for 2 years for a pity fcuk. Don't think so

 

[dronkitto]

He said "Never burn bridges".

What does this mean? It means try to stay in friendly contact with as many chicks as humanly possible, whether they flaked on you, whether u dated and broke up, whether she ignores you, whether she cheated on u, it doesnt matter, always at least keep the POSSIBLITY of friendly contact with her. What do I mean?

1)DO NOT ERASE THEIR # IF THEY FLAKE ON YOU
2)DO NOT TELL THEM OFF OR SAY SOMETHIN SO RUDE THAT THEY WILL NEVER TALK TO U AGAIN
3)DONT SAY OR DO ANYTHING THAT WILL MAKE THEM TOTALLY DESPISE U BASICALLY.

Now this sounds very anti-suave and reeks of lack of self-respect, but this is coming from probly the biggest pimp/don juan that i ever met. I was wondering what the reasoning is behind this "don't burn bridges" theory of his, and he explained it to me in a few simple words:

"Dude if she ignores u or doesnt call back or flakes or this or that, act like it does not phase you THE LEAST BIT, and give a call back in a week or 2 saying hey wats up. It doesnt kill you to call and be friendly with a girl for 3 minutes acting like nothing happened. Doing this gives you more power, as she will see you dont even NOTICE her flaking, thus she'll have absolutely no reason to NOT wanna see you. And you never know what the future holds, she mite go thru a bad breakup, you mite be the only guy whod be there for her, get her drunk, get her crying on ur shoulder, and then go for the kill"

These are all his words but im paraphrasing. He also mentioned things such as "just IMAGINE over the last even 1 year, how many girls have u either yelled at, erased their # or confronted them to the point that they never wanted to talk to u? I bet at least 1/2 the girls you meet u do that to cuz they dont call back or somethin aka you NEXT them, which you SHOULDNT do."

He recapped for me how he met a really hot girl once and hed call her once every 3 weeks or so, just to say hi, sometimes she picked up, sometimes she didnt, never called him back tho.....but after a few months (wats it to u to lose 15 minutse in a span of 2 months?) she DIDNT ignore him and they DID hang out and guess what? they did E together and ****ed all nite.

His lesson - keep as many contacts as possible and always act like ur not phased and u dont care (even if they disrepsect u or flake on u or anything, even if they LJBF u, if they tell u they have a bf, doesnt matter), DO NOT BURN BRIDGES. You never know when it may come in handy, but by keeping ur cool and acting like nothing is ever wrong, you will always maintain positive energy with the girl, and this first of all does LOADS for your social proof if u ever need it, along with other benefits that were mentiond above.


I never applied this, as i NEXT or tell off any girl who flakes or disrepsects me and man im left with only like 5 girls rite now who i am "friendly" with.

NOT following what my friend said and BURNING BRIDGES, it now turns out that outta the 50 or so girls that ive fvcked, I have no contact with about 45 of them due to them getting bfs and me erasing their #s, or them standing me up on a future date, or them cheating on me or dumping me, or flaking of course - all these led to me BURNING BRIDGES by erasing their #s aka NOT PLAYING IT COOL LIKE I SHOULD HAVE.

If I had been doing what my friend told me, I could prob be getting loads and loads of pvssy from some of these girls and if I ever needed, I could have dates lined up for weeks.

KEEP THE POWER, IGNORE FLAKING AND *****Y BEHAVIOR, PRETEND YOU ARE THE MAN AND NOTHING A ***** DOES MATTERS, AND THAT WILL DRAW THE GIRLS IN THAT YOU WERE READY TO NEXT

What i just capitalized above seems to be the whole point of the speech my friend gave me.

:yes: Dude, this is great advice! I think it comes just right in this point of my life. I've burnt so many bridges just for demanding "respect" and now I find myself with so few contacts and so regret that... I shoud have played cool and stayed in touch just like I don't care.

Besides, I think this is great for the inner game. Act like you don't care, and eventually you won't care. Act friendly an happy no matter what they throw to you, and you'll become a friendly, happier person.

I don't say the girls didn't deserve what I did, but I could have still taken advantage of them . I don't think they'll eventually come to me like the post says, but I could have got social proof and lots of their girl friends!

Thanks!

 

[Wilko]

I believe that you should eventually get to a point where you handle situations the way you want to for no other reason that that's the way YOU wanted to play it, let alone because you were trying to maximise your chances of getting more pvssy. No games, no strategies, no rules, just an authentic expression of your own free will.

So I see this "no burnt bridges" strategy in a somewhat similar light to the "two strikes" rule. It's something you will want to move past eventually. While it could be pretty damn effective there is a sense in which "no burnt bridges" contrives to make getting pvssy your sole motivation, that's not very cool.

Apart from that I can see how it would be a pretty good exercise for reigning in an unchecked ego, it might be worth giving it a go for that aspect alone.

In the mean time, I'm gonna do the experiment for myself, find out if there's anything to it.

 

[Wilko]

In the mean time, I'm gonna do the experiment for myself, find out if there's anything to it.

Actually I don't think I will. I'm at a point where women are just women and sex is just sex, I like both but neither are worth elevating to a rasion d'etre. I'm done with rearranging my behaviour in the pursuit of either.

 

[st_99]

The theory behind this post rests on ones ability to truly NOT care about any form of rejection from a girl. If it TRULY does not affect you or give you negative emotions then what the OP is suggesting is fine because you're looking at the occasional communication as just part of your social game which could lead to an occasional good thing. But most guys could not pull this off because we are wired to get pissed at rejection.

Attitude is everything.