Girls Gone Wild

The Myth of Girls Gone Wild

Picked this up this morning. Thought it was interesting, but it really only supports what I've always professed here - women want a convenient excuse to do what they really want to do anyway.

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My theory on alcohol "induced" behavior has always been that alcohol is used as an excuse to the public to do acts that otherwise you wouldn't do. You can simply say "Oh I was too drunk to remember" and get away with anything. That said, vacation is yet another excuse to do crazy things because ...well you're on vacation

Put them together and you have the crazyness of Girls Gone Wild. It's like a double shot of espresso.

a drunk person says (does) what a sober person thinks.

In Japan, many important business dealings, as well as the sharing of criticism (good and bad), are conducted after hours in a bar. The consumption of alcohol is the culturally accepted excuse for sharing news or making negotiations that could potentially be considered negative or offensive. In the traditional Japanese business culture, "saving face" is very important and it's poor form to communicate anything that could be taken personally during the day.

When I read the article, it reminded me of this. It's the same deal - using alcohol (or vacation + alcohol) to justify behaviors that are culturally frowned upon. The transgressors of these "forbidden" acts use the impaired judgment properties of alcohol as their excuse, when in reality they had already decided to engage in that behavior prior to consuming.

Since the founder got sued, now the girls only get to go wild on the bus after they sign the forms.

Bible_Belt said:

Since the founder got sued, now the girls only get to go wild on the bus after they sign the forms.

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The 2257 laws (porn laws), which came into effect within the past year and a half are extremely strict. The laws require that all pornographic images be accompanied by a model release form and a 2257 form. Additionally, two forms of identification (usually a drivers license and social security card) are required (should be photographed and printed out to be kept in model's folder). Before any nude scenes, the model should be photographed holding the 2 forms of identification next to her face. It's recommened to video tape the whole interaction between the model and the producer to show the model signing the documents and stating her age and doing this by her own free will and not under the influence of any drugs/alcohol.

After all that fun stuff is done, the photos of the IDs and signed documents MUST be kept at a specific location that can be accessed during business hours. The document's location address (click any link at the bottom of a porn site that says "18 USC 2257 Compliance" for the address) MUST BE listed on the website showing that nude model, so if the porn police feel your model looks too young, they can check your records without warning. Moreover, the signed documents and the photocopied IDs MUST be kept in that model's SPECIFIC folder in alphabetical order with the other models you have for that specific website.

Failure to comply with ANY of the above will result in you getting fuucked by the man. :flowers:

Now you see why the old school type Girls Gone Wild and all other 'caught nude on video' type videos/photos are no longer on mainstream websites or DVDs.
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As for the article: I know many girls who love to blame their actions on alcohol, other people, and/or the best one, "I think someone spiked my drink!"**

**For the record, I do not know of any guy who has ever spiked a girl's drink with anything....and I know ALOT of guys.

I agree that the 2257 laws are overboard. It completely contradicts the legal tradition of a presumption of innocence. I imagine that every web site that hosts wife/gf/amateur pictures is in violation of this law.

Dang, then my "Check out what this chick was doing last night" podcasts are illegal too?

http://www.webmasterlinkup.com/news/2257-law-analysis-debate.php

http://www.adultvideonews.com/legal/leg0604_01.html nsfw

The last topic is the contents of your "2257 Room." First, you must have records for each performer including,
"(1) The legal name and date of birth of each performer, obtained by the producer's examination of an identification document, as defined by 18 U.S.C. 1028(d). [T]he records shall also include a legible copy of the identification document examined and, if that document does not contain a recent and recognizable picture of the performer, a legible copy of a picture identification card.
"(2) Any name, other than each performer's legal name, ever used by the performer, including the performer's maiden name, alias, nickname, stage name, or professional name. ... uch names shall be indexed by the title or identifying number of the book, magazine, film, videotape, or other matter."

Rollo Tomassi said:

The Myth of Girls Gone Wild

Picked this up this morning. Thought it was interesting, but it really only supports what I've always professed here - women want a convenient excuse to do what they really want to do anyway.

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Women (and men) will use alcohol as an excuse for all sorts of stupid behaviour. Most of the women on these "girls gone wild" tapes are just attention starved airhead wh*res who will flash their tits for any cheap huckster who promises them two seconds of fame. Half of them have probably not even got a buzz yet. Not that I mind seeing those jugs, but if it were my daughter I'd hope that I could raise her a little better than that.

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Everything from GGW to Real World to the Bachelor are more or less 'scripted' for people who want to make it big, or attempt to.

You can sign up/pay for a database of cast calling that allows you access to become an extra on sets, or enter MTV reality shows (though it's not reality if they edit pieces or show people in a certain light).

If you check the most recent cast of MTV (Austin), most people changed. It was as if this whole crop of 22 and unders, went from snivelling, snot-nosed punks, who used to work at Abercrombie and Fitch (which Danny did, with friends of mine), to being models, or superstars, as Danny and Melinda appeared to do. That cast was very boring, and stupid, since it was totally about drinking, and I felt like I'd gone back to college. Point is, the show isn't what it was. The original series was unique, though totally off MTV's primary product line of MUSIC, to being MORE pop, MORE culture, MORE style. The original series pared people from across the country together, battling out their different world perspectives.

And while Porn requires more diclosure than they used, so much of it seems illegal, and with the widespread explosion of porn, I often wonder if these girls are real, if the pictures aren't doctored to make girls look younger, or if they're not hypnotized or mentally mind fcuked so that they do porn. I peruse porn maybe once a day, or used to, and would RARELY ever happen upon the same girl. I have to wonder, is there an island of all these chicks that I do not know about?



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A-Unit said:

Everything from GGW to Real World to the Bachelor are more or less 'scripted' for people who want to make it big, or attempt to.

You can sign up/pay for a database of cast calling that allows you access to become an extra on sets, or enter MTV reality shows (though it's not reality if they edit pieces or show people in a certain light).

If you check the most recent cast of MTV (Austin), most people changed. It was as if this whole crop of 22 and unders, went from snivelling, snot-nosed punks, who used to work at Abercrombie and Fitch (which Danny did, with friends of mine), to being models, or superstars, as Danny and Melinda appeared to do. That cast was very boring, and stupid, since it was totally about drinking, and I felt like I'd gone back to college. Point is, the show isn't what it was. The original series was unique, though totally off MTV's primary product line of MUSIC, to being MORE pop, MORE culture, MORE style. The original series pared people from across the country together, battling out their different world perspectives.

And while Porn requires more diclosure than they used, so much of it seems illegal, and with the widespread explosion of porn, I often wonder if these girls are real, if the pictures aren't doctored to make girls look younger, or if they're not hypnotized or mentally mind fcuked so that they do porn. I peruse porn maybe once a day, or used to, and would RARELY ever happen upon the same girl. I have to wonder, is there an island of all these chicks that I do not know about?



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True, true, a lot of this stuff is scripted, but my original point still stands. The fact that someone makes these girls fill out some forms, and gives them a token amount of cash does not mean much. They're still what I described them as.

As for why girls do porn, well some just need some quick cash, and are horny exhibitionists (or at least not shy) or curious, etc. Having sex on camera and getting paid isn't a bad deal for them.

But many of these girls are mental cases and come from ****ed up backgrounds (bad childhoods, abuse). I'd imagine a good deal of the ones in this category are drug addicts. They're not all that different from hookers.

Despite the fact that you see a different girl every time you look at porn doesn't mean much. They're still only a tiny tiny minority of women.

Gotta tell a story here:

In a student club at my college, we had a dinner where girls would wait on the guys - an annual event, and there was also a dinner for girls with male waiters. Well, there would always be a sexy theme, and the year I went was "football heroes /cheerleaders". (I don't live in the U.S., so we don't have football or cheerleaders.) We guys would dress ... footballish as best we could, and the girls were dressed in cheerleader uniforms, don't know where they got them.

The two female hosts would talk in an exaggerated way, like: "Forgive us for only wearing towels, we seem to have lost our clothes when we were having a pillow fight!" "Remember, we are here for you, our big, strong heroes, and as waitresses we will serve your every need!"

We would do our part by howling like wolves at almost everything they said and pound on the tables, or go "woof, woof" with our fists pounding in the air.

This was in the basement of a clubhouse, and the waitresses said later that "When you went down the stairs with the food, you hit this wall of heat, the sound of howling, and the smell of beer."

And they loved it! They loved acting like the "Oops, I'm so innocent, I don't know that I'm being sexy when I'm leaning forward like this"-kind of porn star. Just like we guys loved howling at them.

They loved it, because they got to try being sluts for one evening, with no consequences because they had a great excuse.

It was a memorable evening. Just thought I'd share.



Also, you know what Live-Action Roleplaying, LARP, is? At a fantasy LARP, guess which roles fill up first? Warriors for the guys, and pleasure ladies for the girls. Great excuse for acting sexy there too - they're only acting. They get to feel what it's like to flirt wildly with guys, and being openly desired, with no consequences afterward.

As a filmmaker who auditions actresses on a fairly regular basis in the Central Florida area I can attest to the fact that women do not need booze as an excuse to get naked on tape. All they require is an appointment time and a promise of stardom. It's nothing for me to describe a bullsh!t scene in which she'll be topless or totally nude and watch 'em pine for attention. It's so common it's predictable.

I wholeheartedly believe that booze is just an excuse for women to free themselves of any inhibitions and let their libidinous nature run wild for a little while.

KarmaSutra said:

I wholeheartedly believe that booze is just an excuse for women to free themselves of any inhibitions and let their libidinous nature run wild for a little while.

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Yea, but there's no denying the fact that the inhibitions DO drop when the alcohol starts flowing.

I feel ya though.....a good friend of mine works in video production and has some awesome footage from Playboy parties and such. Although the guy definitely has the right personality for dealing with women, I can't help but attribute at least some of his success to the fact that he works behind the camera.

How about Halloween? It's been mentioned on here several times before that it gives women an excuse to let their hair down and lift their skirts up. Just goes to show that all you have to do is find a way to drop the wall and you're IN.

You back in town yet Karma? We need to set up DJ meet #2 in the near future.

http://media.putfile.com/Girls-Kiss

Come on, Alcohol only helps lower inhibitions people would do with another person. In this video you got two straight looking girls that are gonna pull a lesbo kiss. They're probably drunk and just wanted to get their erotic kicks on.

Macgyver said:

http://media.putfile.com/Girls-Kiss

Come on, Alcohol only helps lower inhibitions people would do with another person. In this video you got two straight looking girls that are gonna pull a lesbo kiss. They're probably drunk and just wanted to get their erotic kicks on.

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They were basically putting up a show: they were being filmed right?

Some girls/women would do a lot of things they normally would never do in private just to grab people's attention.
Straight chicks going "lesbo" just to have the guys drool over them is a classic, we see that all the time in clubs and bars across North America.

This is besides the thread theme, but:

fuzzx said:

Have you ever seen the girls that sign up for LARP? Half of them don't even go outside during the day and the guys who LARP aren't exactly Warrior-esque material.

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I have done some larping. I love theater, it fits my best talent, and larping is essentially theater without having to learn a script, so that's why I enjoy it. The girls who sign up won't be the hottest party girls, no. They are too busy going where they get the most appreciation with the least effort. Sure I enjoy banging such girls as much as the next guy, but I definitely don't want them as girlfriends. I shudder at the thought.

Girls who do larping every now and then will be more intellectual girls, who enjoy doing something that stimulates the mind more a few weekends a year. Some of these will be intellectuals only because they are too ugly to enjoy the party scene. But this latter group is small, far from the majority, as you would have it. Most girls at larps here simply look normal. And I have seen some real hot girls at larps, believe it or not. (I'm sure you won't.)

As for the guys, they vary as much as the girls, and the only category of society you won't see represented are lowlives. Suits me fine.

Some pictures of larpers: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28

I don't know any of these, but tell you what, they just look like normal people having some fun to me. But ah, they aren't out drinking alcohol in the weekend, they decided to have fun some other way. That's what's wrong. Losers, right? Not as cool as you, not by a longshot.