Overcoming Resistance

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This post was inspired by a recent thread.

In a nutshell, my buddy Duke is having trouble with this girl (Sarah) who is giving him mixed signals. Does she like him as a friend or is there something more going on in that pretty little head of hers?

Originally posted by Duke
I got a question. I don't really ask for advice much, but I need a second opinion on this. Should I be upfront with Sarah and tell her that if we're only friends, then its not worth it? Or should i just stay patient...
The quick answer is that you should NOT confront her or give her any ultimatums. This is childish behavior and a huge turnoff for women. Dont do this unless you never want to have sex with this girl.

The best advice I can give in this situation is not to get hung up on Sarah. Keep her on the back burner and pursue other prospects.

On a sidenote, If she does eventually give you the old LetsJustBeFriends, then see this thread here:

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43174

I would also like to add that reading posts here is a good way to open your mind to new ideas, but honestly all this research is just mental masturbation unless you APPLY yourself! The surest way to gain insight into the true nature of woman is if you experience it for yourself, so get out there and get some experiences!

Yes, you will fail repeatedly for it is inevitable. Your confidence will take a vicious beating at times, but you must overcome these odds and just keep pushing. You are one step closer to manhood each time you can chalk "failure" up as a valuable lesson, for in the end, our mistakes can be the greatest teachers of all.

Originally posted by Duke
...she says she's gonna blow on my stomach and like I said, she has played with my hair and slapped my ass, and slapped my stomach a few times.

But I believe it is possible that it's all out of friendship. She told me a lil while ago that "blowing on your stomach is as far as I'm going to go with you"

That's pretty gay...
Then again she could be joking. I just don't know. What do you think?
I know this too well. All I can say is get used to silly comments like this from women.

Many girls have pulled this on me. We flirt or make out or do SOMETHING that gets her turned on and then the anti-slut defense pops up and she gives me the ol´shyt test. I pass it by simply agreeing with what she says, making a joke or ignoring it completely as I get her more turned on.

For Example:

SARAH: blowing on your stomach is as far as I'm going to go with you
DUKE: thats cool. you seem like you would make a good friend... and i like a girl who blows :cool:

Just dont take her seriously next time she plays this card on ya. If you cant think of anything witty, just ignore it and be unfazed. No matter what you say, just make sure you dont let her see that she has the power to ruffle your feathers, because as soon as a female senses this ... she will be gone faster than you can say "LJBF" !

Hmmm....I can already hear Dukes response (I am psychic)

Hypothetically posted by Duke
But why does a woman play these mind games even when she is interested in someone? Guys dont do this shiat. When was the last time you said to a girl "touching your titties is as far as I will go with you" This is just ABSURD behavior!
Yeah.. I used to think the very same thing. But it all makes sense now.

Very simple-

The purpose of the infamous shyt test is

1. To avoid being perceived as a slut.
2. To see if you are man enough to not be affected by their silly games.

You will face similar tests when you actually hook up with girls too. The truth is that sometimes it is a just a huge turn-on for them to resist and ultimately SURRENDER to a man who has the strength of character to make them feel womanly. A real man, so firmly grounded in his own reality that she cant shake him.

When you pass their tests their desire to affect you somehow will often translate into sexual as opposed to psychological stimulation. They start to flirt more and often playfully hit you.

Ironically enough, these little tests of theirs are one of the biggest signals of attraction, so stay sharp and pick up on these hidden cues!

Translation: Always assume that the game is ON. Dont get all insecure and doubtful when she tests you and this will get her even more revved up for some action.

Hypothetically posted by Duke
When will she stop playing these games?
Dont hold your breath dude,

The craziest thing about shyt tests is that they will often pop up after you have gotten physical with a girl..

Sometimes I will get a girl back to my house and will just be rounding third base when she freaks out and tries to stop the sex from happening. I used to get all flustered and start to feel like a loser who wasnt attractive. I would proceed to mess the whole thing up by trying to ask her what was wrong or just sulking like a little bytch.

With more experience I came to realize that the problem wasnt about me as a person, but the fact that I was moving too fast and simply needed to slow down and tease her until she was begging for sex.

Hypothetically posted by Duke
Okay...I gotta hear how the **** you pull this off!
Easier than it sounds actually.

Try this out...

If you are getting it on with a girl and out of nowhere she drops the old "We shouldnt be doing this" line, just tell her " you´re absolutely right" and go right back to what you were doing...just slow it down a little, get her warmed up by teasing her more. Kiss her slowly and get lost in the sensuality of the moment. Often times "no" really means "not yet...turn me on more and we will see!"

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: This does NOT mean that you should force yourself on her. If she tells you a firm "no" and pushes you away, then you need to chill because she is really saying "no". Ultimately.. you need to pay attention to what she says with her body more than what she says with her mouth.

Though many of them will deny it to their dying day, the honest truth is that most women love to "no" their way right into your pants.

Some food for thought...

FINGZ
 

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Fingz! Lol, you read me like a book with your cracked-out "Hypothetical Posts." If only you could have posted this about 2 hours earlier!! I may have already mussed things up a bit. I emailed you the whole conversation to give you a crystal clear view of what went down.

The best advice I can give in this situation is not to get hung up on Sarah. Keep her on the back burner and pursue other prospects.
Very sound advice-- I felt myself going AFC on this girl, starting to get oneitus again. I gotta get in touch with the hottie that wondered why I didn't call and the horny FB babe that made me promise to call her lol. I guess it goes back to challenge, eh? The one that retreats is the one that gets chased the most. This works for both sexes apparently.

I would also like to add that reading posts here is a good way to open your mind to new ideas, but honestly all this research is just mental masturbation unless you APPLY yourself! The surest way to gain insight into the true nature of woman is if you experience it for yourself, so get out there and get some experiences!
No doubt, my friend. I have learned so much valuable information from the Sarah scenario and my "Crazy" outing. Since I experienced it for myself, it's unlikely that I will forget what I learned.

Yes, you will fail repeatedly for it is inevitable. Your confidence will take a vicious beating at times, but you must overcome these odds and just keep pushing. You are one step closer to manhood each time you can chalk "failure" up as a valuable lesson, for in the end, our mistakes can be the greatest teachers of all.
Absolutely, this is just what I needed to hear. I hate to sound like a "Fingers Yes-man" but I'm not kissing ass; I honestly agree with you. BTW, that's part of the reason I told her "Fukk it, I was being a pvssy. Problem solved." I realized in my mind that it's no use to sulk and ask "Why?" and try to garner pity. You just have to learn and move on.

I know this too well. All I can say is get used to silly comments like this from women.

Many girls have pulled this on me. We flirt or make out or do SOMETHING that gets her turned on and then the anti-slut defense pops up and she gives me the ol´shyt test. I pass it by simply agreeing with what she says, making a joke or ignoring it completely as I get her more turned on.

For Example:

SARAH: blowing on your stomach is as far as I'm going to go with you
DUKE: thats cool. you seem like you would make a good friend... and i like a girl who blows

Just dont take her seriously next time she plays this card on ya. If you cant think of anything witty, just ignore it and be unfazed. No matter what you say, just make sure you dont let her see that she has the power to ruffle your feathers, because as soon as a female senses this ... she will be gone faster than you can say "LJBF" !
For the record, I told her that I might get angry if she stopped at my stomach. I was half-joking, half-honest there.

What I'm picking up here is that we should remain unfazed by what the women say. Do not let them upset us because that would show weakness or desperation.

But MAN! That is some funny shyt-- that women have to dilute themselves into believing they were "taken"-- that it all happened in the heat of the moment. What a load!
 

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Bumpity bump!
 

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Yes, you will fail repeatedly for it is inevitable. Your confidence will take a vicious beating at times, but you must overcome these odds and just keep pushing. You are one step closer to manhood each time you can chalk "failure" up as a valuable lesson, for in the end, our mistakes can be the greatest teachers of all.
Absolutely, but I don't fail. Everytime I get a negative or indifferent reaction from a woman, I'm only succeeding in finding flaws that exist in the approach I tried or my game.

When you think of it that way, things seem a little different :)

Mav
 
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Let there be Light

After trying thousands of materials for his filament in the light bulb, one critic asked Thomas Edison how he handled such failure. He replied with something like, "I have not failed thousands of times, I have successfully discovored thousands of materials that will not produce light as a filament." A brilliant mind like that had the right idea...what an amazing thought, more people should adhere!
 

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Re: Let there be Light

Originally posted by Snoopy
After trying thousands of materials for his filament in the light bulb, one critic asked Thomas Edison how he handled such failure. He replied with something like, "I have not failed thousands of times, I have successfully discovored thousands of materials that will not produce light as a filament." A brilliant mind like that had the right idea...what an amazing thought, more people should adhere!
same thing as "Looking at a glass of water thats half filled or half empty"
 

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Bump! Thats ****ing true. I messed around with a girl, and she wanted to stop so i was like ok Then we got back to messing around in about 5 minutes
 
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