i don't know, what do you wanna do?

I know all of you dj's already know this, but it is SO annoying when a guy wants to take a girl out and says "i don't know, what do you want to do?" and "so it's all up to MEEEE?" (whining voice). WTF????

So this post is two things.

1. rant. and reminder. a woman wants a man with a plan.

2. WTF would be a good response that isn't just mean as hell? Like I need some insight here, i dunno, i'm so annoyed. isn't just basic knowlege by now?

grrrrr

Would it be so hard...

to just offer a few suggestions and still leave it to him to take the lead? Maybe he's trying to find out what you like. Either that or next him...and find someone that is more decisive.

cruel to be kind, say this:

"how about you grow a pair and take charge you nutless wonder".

or better yet you could steer him in the right direction to being an actual man, he would then owe you his life , literally.

ohhh stop with the whiny "I want a man with plan!"

You should be somewhat happy that he cares enough to ask you what you like to do for fun..its called COMMUNICATION

We've all heard this a million times but the fact of the matter is eventually the man with the plan will hear:

"Why do we always do whatever YOU want to do? You're so controlling. Nag, nag, nag, nag, nag...."

Originally posted by Ronin I
We've all heard this a million times but the fact of the matter is eventually the man with the plan will hear:

"Why do we always do whatever YOU want to do? You're so controlling. Nag, nag, nag, nag, nag...."

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I used to hear this all the time from my ex.

another perfect example of Women not knowing what the hell they want

actually guys, iqqi is right on the money this time.
we all know chicks want a man who takes charge, she even stated the fact.
whats the problem here?

another perfect example of Women not knowing what the hell they want

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Originally posted by ( . )( . )
actually guys, iqqi is right on the money this time.
we all know chicks want a man who takes charge, she even stated the fact.
whats the problem here?

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Well the problem is they'll say they want this but then turn around and g!ve you **** for it.

Although I do agree - Since you have to choose, choose decisiveness and action.

Granted you'll have to put up with some resistance every now and then but that beats being viewed as a supplicating wuss by a mile.

Plus the nagging is really just a sh!t test as to your resolve (manhood)


"Nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag....."

stop making me out to be such a b$tch. you all know this, as well as i do. i'm not going to sit up here and act like you're being a jerk if you are annoyed with a stupid azz chic. you all know this is stupid behavior. its just f#ckin chumpy ass hell, atleast have some idea in case the chic really doesn't have a clue.

this guy chased me down in a car to get my #, and he can't even think of something to do?

i'll admit i am a little crabby today (groggy from painkillers and sleep), but there are going to be days where you just don't feel like holding a f%cking guys hand.

you can call me what you want but i am just being honest. its a turnoff. and you all know this so wtf is the big deal?

also i suggested coffee, since he started whining. that way if he really is annoying as hell (cuz it could just be me today) I can ESCAPE. thanks for that golden nugget, BTW. seems like it will be coming in handy...

"Nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag....."

anyways, i was serious about tha advice on what to say. i don't want to be a big bytch, i was hoping for something clever that might help him out.

without saying, "jeez, loserboy, it's really a turn off when a guy calls a girl to ask her out, but then not only doesn't have a plan, but not even a suggestion. please grab your f*cking nuts and just make a decision. or maybe it is a matter of creativity, but if you are this boring with the first date, what is sex going to be like?"


i understand that there is a big communication issue between women and men, and when i ask for advice, i know it is coming from men and if anything it is enlightening. that is why i am asking YOU, not my girlfriends. for real, what would you say if you overheard you boy saying that to a chic on the phone, what would you say? what advice? you have all been afc, and know someone who is. so what would be a constructive responce, c+f perhaps, but not like i am a f^cking elementary teacher?

i am not seeking to search and destroy. i am looking for the best solution. and i am human, not saint.

my take is you dont really like this guy too much to begin with..and you are dating him out of boredom or decided to give him a chance..

Thats why his little nuances are annoying to you

The situation is plain and simple..you could jokingly say "planning isnt your strong point is it??"

secondly..if this guy is always doing this..he will most likely do it in the future..do you really want a guy like that?


and Im gonna take another shot in the dark..as to why this is annoying to you..

Because men who just say "I dunno what do you wanna do?" come off as aloof or uninterested..like he isnt trying to make an effort to impress you..so you get ticked at that fact?

You want advice on how to get some guy you just met to not act so much like an AFC?

That's a tough one - anything you do in that regard is going to make you come off as a bytch.

Why is it your job to teach him how to act?

How about the next time he says,
"I don't know, what do you wanna do?" you say...

"Come on, women love a man with a plan.." - if you say it right he should get the point.

Hmmmm....this is kind of interesting - you want him to act a certain way but you can't just come out and tell him -

without saying, "jeez, loserboy, it's really a turn off when a guy calls a girl to ask her out, but then not only doesn't have a plan, but not even a suggestion. please grab your f*cking nuts and just make a decision. or maybe it is a matter of creativity, but if you are this boring with the first date, what is sex going to be like?"

Jeez- your spitting fire today aren't you? Sounds like you need a good spankin' to put you in your place. Too bad your wussboy doesnt have what it takes to give it to you.

Originally posted by Starman
my take is you dont really like this guy too much to begin with..and you are dating him out of boredom or decided to give him a chance..

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no starman, i am definately not searching for a man, and i don't really know him (we haven't been out once) to LIKE him. i'm interested enough to go out with him and see if i like him and vice versa. is that so bad?!

The situation is plain and simple..you could jokingly say "planning isnt your strong point is it??"

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that is perfect.

Because men who just say "I dunno what do you wanna do?" come off as aloof or uninterested..like he isnt trying to make an effort to impress you..so you get ticked at that fact?

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no, starman, and i hope that this isn't something YOU'D do to come across as "aloof" because ummm...that isn't how it comes across. it came across like he is boring as hell. he reminded me of someone's little sister. and if he wasn't interested, than why would i be anyways? i am not insecure enough to get "hooked" that way.

Here's a phrase you could try in that situation;

NEXT!

Believe me now and hear me later ... or whatever ...

Anyhow, here is the advice of experience:

When a woman wants your "input" on things to do, etc, or anything for that matter, just realize it is only an opening gambit.

It doesn't matter what your answer ultimately is, because it is just a process where she is deciding what SHE wants to do, and you are just a random number generator giving her stimulus.

If you say, "let's go to the drag races", after a bit of "communication" back and forth, don't be surprised if you end up going to the mall instead to shop for earrings and matching handbags.

Women will play this game whether they already know what they want to do or not.

***Solution!***

"Unless you have something better to suggest, let's go ..."
at the very least...
I mean, come on! This is almost straight out of the DJ Bible...
MEN should always have some sort of plan.
AS a matter of fact, a brief outline of the plan should be discussed whilee the date is being planned... it seems that womem just show up more often when they have an idea (even if vague) of what the date is going to be like.

Unless the woman asks me out...

WTF.. I've not read such a bunch of lame*ass whining bitter AFC p*ssy posts in a long long time.

First you flame Icky for telling us something we know already, then you whine and b*tch that she's using this guy out of boredom.

The only guy with a clue in this thread is Mr Boobies. Chr*st almighty what the hell is wrong with you idiots, talk about bringing out the bitterness in you.

If you could get your heads out of your a*ses for a minute, and put aside your bad-date memories, you'll see that not only is Iqqi confirming what we all know, that being indecisive is a BIG F*CKING TURNOFF TO ALL WOMEN, but she's also given some golden info:

if you are this boring with the first date, what is sex going to be like?"

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Read this until it sinks in. Women are always, always checking out the things you do, and translating it into how you are likely to perfom sexually. The way you eat, the way you walk and talk, the things you like to do, how you think. You're being watched and evaluated on all of it, and a judgment made on how you will be in bed, amongst other things. That's why being nice, boring, indecisive and like a puppy dog is such a turnoff - to a girl, it relates directly to how well you f*ck.

Being whiny, bitter "Why can't you talk to him instead of b*tching about it here" p*ssies is just as bad, and to a girl, yes you guessed it, that attitude translates directly to how she thinks you will perform in bed too.

I'm all for open communication in an LTR, but on the first few dates you need to know what you're doing, coz she's under no obligation to tell you that you're scr*wing everything up and turning her off. Get used to it.

bp1974