The Difference Between "The Freeze Out," and No Contact

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I've notice in recent weeks that dudes have confused two similar but very different PUA tactics, those being the "The Freeze Out," and No Contact. While both a shotgun and rifle are both firearms and can work in regards to killing your target, both of these weapons are used for entirely different situation, so are The Freeze Out and N/C. Here I will explain the difference between both tactics and hopefully bring some clarity to the issue.

The Freeze Out

If you remember in The Game Style and Mystery would have problems overcoming last minute resistance and were perplexed on how to overcome it. Eventually Mystery figured out a chick's emotions and her state of sexual arousal were at a fever pick, however despite being ever so horny her anti-slut defense would kick in and prevent her from wanting to give you some. Various methods were used to try to overcome LMR, anger, sadness, sulking, and finally they figured out that indifference was the best method to overcome LMR. As Mystery put it, a chick would be enjoying those "good feelings," and she would want them to return, eventually, she would give in to sex.

However, it was also discovered, that The Freeze Out could be used to correct a chick's bad, undesirable, and insolent behavior. When a chick did something that was untoward, you simply withdraw your attention. You don't get mad or should any attitude about it, you simply don't pay her any attention. The chick will intuitively know something was amiss and she would inquire about it, to which you could check her right there (it whatever she did wrong warranted immediate correction,) or you discuss what she did at a later date.

No Contact

No Contact is used when you're as Boyz II Men would say, "you're at the end of the road." No Contact isn't used to "get her back," or used as mechanism to correct bad behavior, because let's face it, if you've let her run a muck for "x" amount of months without correction, discipline, or punishment, even if she was to become back, all she's going to do is do the same dumb weak a$$ sh* that she was doing before you decided to go N/C.

No Contact is the process that you use to mentally and psychology remove your ex from your life. This includes deleting her, her relatives, and friends, from you social media contacts, (e.g. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and your phone.) and putting her, her relatives and friends numbers on call blocking app.

Returning her belongings to her, dropping them to one of relatives or friends or if she doesn't want to pick up her stuff, getting rid of it.. Avoiding places that as a couple you guys use to frequent. Avoiding places that her or friends go to. No Contact is about making the only way you'll see you ex is by chance meeting someplace or for her to physically come to your job, home, gym, or someplace she knows you frequent.

No Contact is the slow arduous process of removing a chick from your life who not only gave you head (like she made it up) who knew how to squeeze her p*ssy muscles so that you when you nutted you were acting as if you were one of those old ladies who was catching the Holy Ghost in church, when you nutted , who could bake the f*ck out of some mac and cheese, how knew when a blitz was coming, or enjoy this month's issue of Action Comics, but No Contact is about mentally and psychologically, (and maybe even spiritually) breaking the ties of a woman who you not only had on pedestal, but you truly with every fiber of your being loved and cared for.

That's what makes No Contact so hard, because initially it seems you have to for every week, day, minute, and second during the early days of that breakup resist the urge to contact her, because to contact would eliminate all of the process you made in hopes of grasping at something that isn't there.

Rex is lucky in the respect that he has no problems with turning his back on a b*tch. Rex's life experiences with broads who told him that it's an exercise in futility to chase after women who have expressed an explicit desire not to be with him. Besides, I'm a very prideful individual, I have to be able to look in the mirror and know that when I dealt with a female, I did it with pride and dignity. You guys should feel the same way too, chicks are trying to f*ck with dudes who cried, groveled, demeaned themselves in other to get their love, sex, and attention. Just because you lose a chick doesn't mean you have to lose your self-respect.
 

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Actually most guys use NC to get the girl back. They think NC will make the girl increase their interest.
 

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skinnyguy said:
Actually most guys use NC to get the girl back. They think NC will make the girl increase their interest.
Those niggas lost.
 

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There's a book called "How to fall out of love" which helped me in the past (I might read it to get over the current breakup). It helps in that it will give you some mental exercises to reframe the relationship, as well as a few more bizzare ones like imagining her with poop all over her and all kinds of weird stuff.

It's effective; just do it even if it's weird.
 

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Maximus Rex said:
chick will intuitively know something was amiss and she would inquire about it, to which you could check her right there (it whatever she did wrong warranted immediate correction,) or you discuss what she did at a later date
I keep reading conflicting opinions on this. After freeze out, do we call them out on their s*it? Or, when she asks why we stopped calling, do we just say we've been busy?
 

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TheCWord said:
I keep reading conflicting opinions on this. After freeze out, do we call them out on their s*it? Or, when she asks why we stopped calling, do we just say we've been busy?
Approach it from the mindset of a dude that is going out with multiple women daily; would you really bother calling her out on her sh*t?
 

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Great post. This is another great description of the freeze out/soft next http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread....tions-and-answers-to-questions&highlight=soft

I keep reading conflicting opinions on this. After freeze out, do we call them out on their s*it? Or, when she asks why we stopped calling, do we just say we've been busy?
I'm seeing this as well. In the link I posted he says not to call them out on it and just contact them a couple days later like nothing happen. I'm assuming Rex has had positive experiences with calling chicks out.
 

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Vice said:
imagining her with poop all over her and all kinds of weird stuff.

It's effective; just do it even if it's weird.
:crackup:
 

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The freeze out method is something that should be in everyone's repertoire.

As well as No contact, as this is harder to implement because of emotional boundaries.

Sometimes I think even in relationships it can be difficult to detach yourself from someone you had an emotional connection with, but at the end of the day...

If its not mutual its not worth your time.
 

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JoeMarron said:
Great post. This is another great description of the freeze out/soft next http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread....tions-and-answers-to-questions&highlight=soft



I'm seeing this as well. In the link I posted he says not to call them out on it and just contact them a couple days later like nothing happen. I'm assuming Rex has had positive experiences with calling chicks out.
I've had positive effects with calling chicks out, but not in the way I expected or wanted. When I did this with "HONEY," I cited all of her faults. Her selfishness, her lack of reciprocity, her f*cked up sense of entitlement, the fact she was doing nothing with her life and only got C's in college and her weight gain. I did all of this fully expecting her never to contact me again, low and behold she did.
 

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TheCWord said:
I keep reading conflicting opinions on this. After freeze out, do we call them out on their s*it? Or, when she asks why we stopped calling, do we just say we've been busy?
It depends on the severity of the infraction. If you're initially hollerin' and she does some dumb sh*t disengage, flirt with her friends, and other girls, then go back in, or you can use that classic Mystery line from "The Game," You're cute, but not cute enough to get away with that. Here you're checking her on her sh*t, but it's in a playful joking way.

Using the Freeze Out is a lot like disciplining a child or training a puppy. When you give the child a whoopin' for being unruly or you tell Krypto, "Bad Dog," for chewing up the furniture or pissin' on the carpet, they need to have an association with the bad behavior and why it's wrong. The same with chicks, they need to know what they did, why it was wrong, and you have to explain to why you find this behavior disagreeable. Y'all need to listen to that game on the link below.

Episode #168- "7 Levels Of Disrespect From Females"

http://macklessonsradio.com/index/mack-lessons-radio-archives-episodes-20-thru-181


http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=192397
 
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