The 2 Types of Losers

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Let's face it, you didn't come to sosuave because your love life was going well. If you had everything you wanted, you wouldn't be here. When I joined, I was recently divorced and had forgotten how to date.

Before I throw around an offensive term like "loser," I want to give it a non-offensive definition. By loser, I mean someone who is not getting what he wants out of life, and more importantly, not on a realistic path toward getting what he wants. The definition is subjective. Maybe you have a million bucks and are fvcking two women right now - but your heart is set on having ten million and four women at once. Without a clear path toward that goal, such a guy would meet my definition of loser, because he's not happy with his life.

So most of us here are losers. Don't be offended. There are a few people here who do not meet that definition, but they are probably just narcissists. I would say that I am one, too, but it is impossible for a narcissist to view themselves as a narcissist.

That brings me to the point of this post. There are two types of losers - the temporary and the permanent. They can be defined by one particular trait, which is very simple - who do they blame? The temporary loser blames himself for his problems. He will attribute his failures to poor choices and lack of knowledge. That's the key, because the underlying philosophy is the idea that each of us are in control of our own life.

Now, obviously, we are not in full control of our futures. Life sh!ts on everybody from time to time. A lot of bad things happen to people for no fault at all of their own. Maybe it's not their fault that they meet my definition of loser, but regardless, the temporary loser is going to view himself as the way out of the problem. Work harder, get smarter - most problems can be fixed or mitigated with enough effort.

That brings us to the other type of loser, the permanent. The essence of being a permanent loser is taking the blame for your problems and laying it on anything and everything in the world ...except for yourself. Read through sosuave, and you will see that the list of things to blame is almost endless. It's not your fault: it's society, or the female gender, or feminism, or liberalism, or the Illuminati, or the damn homos. The permanent loser will also blame every unchangeable trait about himself he can think of. He's too old, too young, too poor, too short, the wrong color, or not good looking enough. That's what makes his loser-ness permanent. If he blames it on something that will never change, then he will never change himself, and will thus stay a loser forever.

So now, when you talk to people about their problems, whether it is in person or over the Internet, take notice of whom that person blames for their problems. It is a very simple litmus test that will predict their future. You might also ask yourself, if you meet my broad definition of loser as someone who is not getting what they want, what type of loser am I - the temporary, or the permanent? You are the one who controls the answer to that question.
 

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I was considered a loser by many thanks to my Christian upbringing. This site has helped me eject those negative qualities, take accountability for my actions(that were turning women off) and learning from those experiences.

I definitely fell into the temporary loser category. I would have stayed there for a long time if I listened to my family. Sure am glad I pulled myself out of this hole, and this site has helped me quite a bit in my growth as a man.
 

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This is an interesting read. About two years ago, I would be defined as a Permanent loser. I was such an AFC/loser i would blame all my failures on my unchangeable traits(Not good looking enough, not tall enough, etc.) and never my actual self.
It's weird because about a year later, I would be defined as a Temporarily loser. I stopped blaming my genetics and stuff i couldn't change and blamed it on lack of knowledge and poor choices because, just like you said, I was in control.

The fact that the temporarily loser works harder to improve himself/herself physically and mentally rather than blame everything/everyone but himself/herself makes the loser temporarily right?

What's your definition of a non-loser by the way?
 

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I really enjoyed reading this, and it makes a lot of sense. I'm quite happy to say I think I fall in the temporary loser category, I don't really like blaming others for my choices, and I always seem to get in my own head and angry at myself when I perform badly.

An example is when I play football, I'm a defender, and whenever we concede I always tell myself that I could have done better to prevent it, even when I had nothing to do with the goal going in.

Good thread.

Gunner
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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@ Crazystarf - If you were directing that at me then the answer is no. Obviously there are things that are out of my control and that cannot possibly be my fault. However if the situation is something I can control or something that I can have a tangible effect on, then yes I do see things as my fault in a sense.

At work if something goes wrong I can see where I could have done better to prevent a negative outcome, just as I could do better to provide a positive one. While this is not the same as myself being the problem, I acknowledge that I could have helped the situation, had I acted differently. In that regard, then I consider myself as not acting to my potential, and so I see it as a failure, because I am not living up to my own expectations of myself.

It's probably more that I see myself as a bit of a perfectionist in certain areas, and dislike it when I do something that I feel is not up scratch.

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I was referring to situations where you were expecting a promotion after working at a company for 5 years, and someone else receives it instead. There could have been something that you did (assuming you and your boss are on good terms), but most likely it was beyond my control
 

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you were expecting a promotion after working at a company for 5 years, and someone else receives it instead.

Then you either didn't work hard enough, or you chose to work for the wrong company. People who end up successful will have that attitude. People who won't will blame the boss, the coworkers, the company, and anything else they can think of besides themselves.
 
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