Sick of hot girls showing low interest

Man, I am getting discouraged. I can get a hot girls number, but that's about it, it never turns into a date, or if it does it never turns into a second date. What's the problem? I catch girls that are like 4s and 5s staring at me all day long, but I think I'm an attractive guy myself, and I should be able to get with a 7-10 for sure. I'm just like wtf. Anyone else feeling this frustration?

They have a coochie and you don't. Thus they have more options and can tell you to fvck off and go ride another d!ck they find more appealing.

Stick around, read the threads and learn how to get your own options.

No need to make it more complicate than it is, your value doesnt match theirs.

Not to make fun of you, I find myself in the same situation...the good news is that as a man you can increase yours with hard work and disciline, sure you cant grow tall like a andre the giant but you can get a hot body and fight the demons in your personality wheter is any insecurity,lack of knowledge or lack of culture.

Improve your life, your social positin and your body and you will see that your level will match and possibly pass theirs till they will invite you inside them or better yet be attracted from your gravity.

PianoGuy33 said:

Man, I am getting discouraged. I can get a hot girls number, but that's about it, it never turns into a date, or if it does it never turns into a second date. What's the problem? I catch girls that are like 4s and 5s staring at me all day long, but I think I'm an attractive guy myself, and I should be able to get with a 7-10 for sure. I'm just like wtf. Anyone else feeling this frustration?

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If these hot chicks are showing low interest you can try taking out your PUA shoe lifts. Perhaps they really do prefer short dudes. In other words low interest.

Women are only as interested as their options. Any woman who's a 7 or higher on the looks scale is gonna have a team of boyfriends, orbiters, and fb's. Your only hope is to be in the top 10% of guys who hit on her, otherwise it's flake city. The best thing you can do to up your chances is diet, workout, and dress well.

The problem with most hot girls is, they have high standards BEYOND just looks. That's just a prerequisite for them. They're still very picky (and shallow) apart from that. They also tend to have options everywhere, and so, don't place a lot of value on anyone. You're just another number to them, and can be replaced easily and instantly... People come and go, and they don't do a lot of chasing or giving (once they catch their target / get what they want). They also expect you to live up to THEIR standards, entertain them every step of the way, always be on-point, and blah blah. Many of them are players.

They can lose interest and deregulate you incredibly fast - simply because you're not exciting enough, or they found someone else right after you, or whatever nonsense. Their emotions tend to be very shallow and fleeting, as well. Infatuation is all they know (other than being dumb and annoying). Even if you're the best thing EVAR 5 minutes ago - you're nothing to them now.

They're like normal women on speed, insofar as **** that pisses you off and makes no sense. But they tend to have the world at their fingers, and can do "whatever they want". I wouldn't fret over them.

IME, they're most receptive when you don't show much interest, make them chase you, present a strong challenge, etc. Because they're used to (and unimpressed by) the opposite. They ESPECIALLY want what they can't have, and can't control. But you gotta kill it early on, and make them want more - then strike when the iron is hot. Since they're horny, dumb, and shallow - hot guy + challenge = sex.

Their high standards and merits for judging / qualifying men is quite the curse, because they're basically seeking after *******s. Never really met an exception, to be honest. "Charming", unpredictable bad boys and players tend to fare best with them. Boring, predictable, decent guys get FZ'd and rejected - regardless of how good looking they are. Been there.

I never met one that was worth anything, though. Just short-term fun. It's too much maintenance to keep their interest level satisfied... And that's just for attracting them over a period of time - without really getting close to them. Because, that's what they're all about - distance and chasing. Actually getting with one is Hell: Level 3.

"And you're a very sexy girl, who's very hard to please..."

floydb25 said:

The problem with most hot girls is, they have high standards BEYOND just looks. That's just a prerequisite for them. They're still very picky (and shallow) apart from that. They also tend to have options everywhere, and so, don't place a lot of value on anyone. You're just another number to them, and can be replaced easily and instantly... People come and go, and they don't do a lot of chasing or giving (once they catch their target / get what they want). They also expect you to live up to THEIR standards, entertain them every step of the way, always be on-point, and blah blah. Many of them are players.

They can lose interest and deregulate you incredibly fast - simply because you're not exciting enough, or they found someone else right after you, or whatever nonsense. Their emotions tend to be very shallow and fleeting, as well. Infatuation is all they know (other than being dumb and annoying). Even if you're the best thing EVAR 5 minutes ago - you're nothing to them now.

They're like normal women on speed, insofar as **** that pisses you off and makes no sense. But they tend to have the world at their fingers, and can do "whatever they want". I wouldn't fret over them.

IME, they're most receptive when you don't show much interest, make them chase you, present a strong challenge, etc. Because they're used to (and unimpressed by) the opposite. They ESPECIALLY want what they can't have, and can't control. But you gotta kill it early on, and make them want more - then strike when the iron is hot. Since they're horny, dumb, and shallow - hot guy + challenge = sex.

Their high standards and merits for judging / qualifying men is quite the curse, because they're basically seeking after *******s. Never really met an exception, to be honest. "Charming", unpredictable bad boys and players tend to fare best with them. Boring, predictable, decent guys get FZ'd and rejected - regardless of how good looking they are. Been there.

I never met one that was worth anything, though. Just short-term fun. It's too much maintenance to keep their interest level satisfied... And that's just for attracting them over a period of time - without really getting close to them. Because, that's what they're all about - distance and chasing. Actually getting with one is Hell: Level 3.

"And you're a very sexy girl, who's very hard to please..."

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Ya I think you're right man. I mean honestly, I view myself as an attractive guy, athletic, I eat healthy, I'm cultured, I read a lot of books, I'm a straight a student, I'm a pianist too. I think I gotta stop putting so much stake on these women, and develop my care-free attitude further, just be an all around great-guy and f these hot shallow "bzchs". I guess the trick now is to find attractive women that have down-to-earth psychologies.

Yeah... I used to let these hoes (and fake friends) determine my self-worth, and take all this **** so personally, but its not worth it. THEY'RE not worth it. Their lives revolve around the "game", because its all they're good for. Don't let 'em frustrate you. Hot girls are nothing special - they only THINK they are, which is why they act this way. They're "high class". :crackup:

You just game them, and don't take them seriously. Which ironically, works to attract them.

Unless someone actually proves to be worth a damn - don't give a **** what they think. A shallow, annoying, two-faced skank doesn't like you, or thinks you're not good enough? Who gives a ****. She's not worth anything.

Good-looking women are in smaller number than good-looking men. Mostly because our brains are hard-wired to associate attractiveness with fertility, and women's fertility declines so much faster than men's. A man at age 40 is in the prime of life, while a woman at that age is approaching menopause.

Many posters here notice that women can easily get men a couple of notches better looking than they are. Or the other way around: men usually are seen with women a couple of notches lower. I played around with a spreadsheet in this thread to show how the idea is easily validated by statistics.

PianoGuy33 said:

Man, I am getting discouraged. I can get a hot girls number, but that's about it, it never turns into a date, or if it does it never turns into a second date. What's the problem? I catch girls that are like 4s and 5s staring at me all day long, but I think I'm an attractive guy myself, and I should be able to get with a 7-10 for sure. I'm just like wtf. Anyone else feeling this frustration?

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It's because you are still a stranger to them and hence nothing compared to all of their countless options because you haven't had a chance to stand out...in fact you lowered yourself simply by going out of your way to talk to her unless you are a natural alpha that they can sense or you just have great convo skills.....

Why, because women feel like guys with lot's of options don't need to hit on strangers...they overthink every little detail like this..however, a very confident guy can get away with this in her mind..

It all depends how you are approaching her, your body language, your sensuallity when you talk to her...basically if you approach her like a timid rabitt or even just average then she will think extremely desperate guy even if you are good looking...

But if you snatch her up no big deal like a player (in her mind) does then your value won't be lowered by the approach..

Example...timid approach: excuse me, (while exhibiting unconfident non-dominating body language...hands crossed or standing awkwardly) are you fro around here? what's your name? blah blah blah

One way a "player" may approach: "Name's David," with his hand in the air very relaxed and a sly grin and some bedroom eyes...sliding hand against her's as a shand shake...she'd probably say excuse me!?? shocked looking..."you know it's rude not to introduce yourself to tall dark handsome strangers," smiling....then she'll laugh and blah blah blha......but you will have stood yourself out from almost every guy she knows.....basically treat her like you are already banging her...

There are millions of ways to do it...but your perceived confidence, sexuality and comfort level is everything...

I have gotten over 30 numbers before in one day with a friendly and "normal" approach...all flakes....but on the flip side, when in a very confident sexy mood, have gotten a handful turned into all dates....it really juist depends on how you are presenting yourself if you are already good looking like you say you are...

Now, also if you are not ready to approach in a super direct way then you can try having some really good convo with her and progressing from there...that is also a good way...but that takes time...i usually like to get in an out...but if you get in and out quickly with merely an average approach then it will be flake city unless you look like Brad Pitt..

no one gives a ****. Go out and get more numbers.

7-10's want guys with dough. You can be good looking but if you don't have the dough they wont date you. They can find a good looking guy with money and get both of what they want. be successful then you wont have to worry.

Zinc: Good point. I used to talk to a lot of girls, get approached, exchange numbers, text, hang out, date briefly, etc, but it never amounted to **** - because I didn't really care, put no effort into anything, wasn't receptive to their advances / was a stuck up *******, and had no charm or game. But when I was focused on one girl that I really liked, and put my best foot forward, and actually gave a ****, and was seductive / charming / interesting - things went a lot better, and lasted much longer. And they were more attracted. Of course, I was an insecure, needy, obsessive, controlling nutjob, and pushed them all away, but at least we were dating.

I think the number's game and "spinning plates" and not caring can work against you in this regard. Because if you have all these options - you tend to put less effort into them, and not give a **** about what happens. So, you wind up with a lot of duds or short-term affairs, because you're not putting any effort into attracting them, or making things work, and basically don't give a ****.

That's probably the hardest balance to find in all of this. Yeah, you can get all these numbers and dates and interest signals, but how many of them actually last? Not many of mine did. Either I didn't give a ****, or developed one-itis and became super clingy. Gah. :cuss:

The answer to this problem

Just shave your balls regularly and spray the right amount of Old Spice on the tip

another tip

another way to get a girl to show interest is by halting her in her tracks while she's on the sidewalk walking towards and randomly do the Dougie in front of her...then she'll want you to teach her how to Dougie my ninjas:nervous: :rock: :crackup: :moon:

Impress her

tell her you've you obtained capital investments and have accrued several monetary assets from your 401 K plan:box: :box: :woo: :cuss:

Serenade Her

As she walks by, sing in a high pitched voice the all time classic by Bobby Valentino



slooooooooooow dooooown I just want to get to know you
sloooooow down because the pretty round thing was good to me
never seen something so lovely


and make sure you dance like Val Venis (the Wrestler) while doing so:woo: :woo: :woo:

Another way to impress her

talk like the lizard from the Geico commercial
and tell her that you yourself can save 15 condoms or less
if she buys the 15 condoms for you:cuss: :moon: :crazy:

OP, I think there is something else going on here.


Those that you approach do they show AI? Woman is woman even in Africa, doesn't matter how pretty or ugly she is, and if she is interested initially she'll show interest down the road as well. Only approach those that you get solid AI from.


Another thing is social proving. You need to show up in cool spots with good looking women - or start with an average looking gal. When these women see you with another woman they look at you and you are already approved like American Express credit card!

I'm working on the same goal, sometimes I rock up at a place and there aren't many girls above 8 or 9 so my practice with hot girls is patchy. There's a lot of 6s and 7s and that's why we're comfortable with them.

I'm going to the gym slowly bulking on some more muscle while also shedding a bit of fat, reading is always a must sometimes you gotta be quick with your brain. Mostly though I need to just approach more hot girls and get tighter game and more confidence, I think this will take some time though.