FR: Well, this is how my NYE went. How was yours?

G0d I fwcking hate night game. I hate the noise, the utter sh1ttines of the meaningless conversations you have, the huge amounts of money people waste, and smelling like cheap perfume as I walk home (alone).

How my night started

Throughout the day, TONS of people start bailing on me, telling me they can't make it to my NYE party. Some of my friends are hanging out at this chick's house in the suburbs, I'm tempted to go, but when I hear about who's going, it bores me and I say fwck that it's new year's fwckin eve and i have to go out and sarge.

I leave the comfort of my parents' home, leave the comfort of my friends, take the train back out to the city. Hit on several girls at the train station. First chick real cool but has bf. Next few not so cool. Hop on bus, there's a cute girl sitting by herself in the back listening to music. NO hesitation I sit right next to her even though the whole section is empty and make it obvious I want to talk to her. She takes off her headphones in response.

I tell her she's adorable, had to meet her. Blah blah I am super chatty/bantering, start putting my arm around her and sh1t already, the approach is going well for all I know. It's only after like two mintues (I knew her stop was soon) that I tell her "Look, you seem like a cool person, and I actually want to talk to you again after you get off this bus."

She tells me she doesn't have a phone right now, gives me her full name to find her on Facebook (note: i can't fwcking find her on it).

Part II

I'm all pumped up and sh1t. IT'S FWCKING NEW YEARS EVE MAN I'm yelling to myself over and over like a crazy man. My plan is to go see some fireworks at Navy Pier and hopefully find a chick who wants to make out at midnight. I keep rushing myself, telling myself I NEED to get there well before 12 so I can have some time to work up to it.

Get there through a combination of bus and good amount of walking, at around 11. I AM SORELY DISAPPOINTED. Everyone there is UGLY, NOT MY AGE, ASIAN, OR MALE. After 15 minutes of wandering around I finally realize I made the sh1ttiest decision on where to find drunk sluts. I'm pissed at myself for wasting time on this golden opportunity of a night but carry on, leaving and trying to find somewhere else.

I don't have ANY knowledge of good places in the area. I keep checking Google Maps on my phone but don't find sh1t. I wander around aimlessly. Each place I come to is either closed, doesn't exist anymore, or looks like sh1t. I get more and more flustered. I start feeling lonely as I start thinking about how everyone ditched me tonight. It's fwcking cold as hell and my feet start hurting from walking around and my nose is running. I start getting into a negative mental loop. As 11:59 ticked into 12:00, I was on some random, empty street block, all alone, trying to figure out where the fwck I was. The cold, dry air was irritating my eyes and they were watering. I had trouble keeping them open. I started feeling sorry for myself and literally felt like crying at how sh1tty of a night I was having.

Fwck no motherfwcker, I tell myself, you are not fwcking feeling sorry for yourself.

Ok now the actual field report.

Finally walk by this bar that seems lively. Walk in, cover is $20. I don't even care and pay, then head in. Apparently it's a latin club. There's a dance floor and bar area, and there are a decent amount of sexy chicks in tight dresses dancing away.

I beeline for the bathroom to blow my runny nose, passing up some hot chicks along the way. Come back and tell myself, dude you need to fwcking get your head together.

Spot this cute blonde girl standing by herself on her phone. I walk toward her. Can't think of a fwcking opener so I just give her a big hug. To my surprise, she reacts favorably and hugs me back.

Me: You look fwcking awesome!
Her: Hahaha thank you!
Me: Happy New Year!!

Forgot what we say next but it's obvious I'm hitting on her. She tells me I HAVE to meet her friend who has an Asian fetish. Tells me to wait RIGHT HERE in this fwcking empty corner where no one is lol.

I'm like ok, so I turn around and chat this 30 year old mexican couple for a few minutes. They're boring, I strain the conversation because I don't want to lose the girl but don't want to stand waiting by myself like a chump, then I dip. Start wandering around.

My awkwardness in the night environment starts coming through. Totally out of my element, I don't approach anyone for a few minutes. Then I spot the blonde I was talking to earlier, go and jokingly tell her I missed her so much. She's got her friend with her and introduces us.

Let's just say that the way this girl's body looked, she is NOT someone I would parade around town in front of everyone I know with. But, her face actually wasn't bad at all. We hadn't spoken two sentences to each other when she goes "Hey let's go dance!"

I oblige, which I probably shouldn't have before qualifying her a bit. We start dancing, don't even say a word for a few mins. I'm like fwck this man, I gotta get something going so I start talking a bit. I try to get her to sit down w/me for a couple mins and have a chat but she doesn't want to.

Me: I want to talk to you for a couple minutes and get to know you
Her: It's New Year's Eve, you don't need to get to know me!

But here's the problem w/not qualifying a girl. Her friends run by, chat her for a bit, I compliment one of their necklaces. Then I tell this girl "You have cool friends." Then fwck up w/a poorly done statement of interest: "You seem cool too." She immediately calls me out: "How do you know? You haven't even talked to me!" Then later tells me "You're full of sh1t."

So we're on the dance floor fwckin around, it's obvious I have no idea what I'm doing but I'm doing my best to lead. Spin her around, move her arms around, touch her all over, put her hands on different spots on my body, etc. Most of what I do she likes but some of it fails HORRIBLY.

I have her grind me back to front, spin her around front to front, keep changing sh1t up and doing different things. She runs her hands over my body as well. Then eventually I make out with her, she pulls away shortly.

(btw this is only the second time in my life that I've made out w/a girl the night of meeting her. And the first time doesn't count because I was drunk as fwck)

I keep cycling through different things but I'm quickly running out of moves lol. I don't kiss her a LOT, but I do do it several times even though I know you shouldn't because it ruins the buildup of sexual tension that helps you pull. I try to make myself stop kissing her, but I can't help it.

She keeps looking away as I stare at her face. I move in and say, "You really suck at keeping eye contact." She steps up to the plate and stares me down a few times. It's pretty fwcking hot actually.

I start teasing her by pretending like I'm going for the kiss, then pulling away/kissing her neck instead. I actually start doing this a LOT, and real slowly, where I put my lips REALLY close to hers and keep them there FOREVER before I actually kiss her, and make out with her HARD. She's usually the first to pull away though. Eventually she starts initiating kissing w/me, kissing my cheek, and my ear. holy balls that gave me chills, no girl has ever done that to me before.

She asks me if I'm here with friends, I tell her my friends were being lame and wanted to hang out in the suburbs. She tells me she's from out of town and going home tomorrow.

Sageproduct starts wondering if he might lose his virginity tonight. I'm thinking about how the fwck to bring this girl home. I start running all this sh1t in my mind, analyzing lol every piece of information I've learned about pulling. Which, I found I actually don't know too much compared to the other areas of PUA that I have a fair amount of textbook knowledge.

I understand the whole concept of plausible deniability, always make it seem like something innocent...but in my head I worry about that since this chick has called me out twice on being full of sh1t. Eventually I just straight up ask her:

Me: Do you want to get out of here?
Her: I can't leave.

Vibe starts going downhill slightly from here. I keep making out with her, keep grabbing her @$$, even slapping it once, keep pulling her in tight and pressing her vag against my leg...but our time on the dance floor is starting to run its course.

Eventually she excuses herself to the bathroom.

She's in there for quite a while. I make like two circles around the whole place, not approaching anyone. Then I get pretty strong eye contact with some asian girl. I lean in to say something and she's already got her arms around me.

First thing that pops into my head:

Me: I've DEFINITELY met you somewhere.
Her: OMG NO.

She turns away and blows me off. Lol. I should have re-engaged her and tried to plow through, oh well.

Eventually I run back into the girl I was dancing w/again. She hugs and kisses me and tells me she's leaving. My COMPLETE inexperience in this situation shines through and through:

Her: I'm leaving.
Me: Oh.
...
Her: Bye.
Me: No, you should come hang out with me
Her: I can't, I have to take care of my friend (points). Somebody has to take care of her.
[literal 10-15 second pause, I have no fwckin idea what to say]
Me: I'm hungry. Let's grab some McDonald's
Her: I can't!
[another pause, I have no idea what to do. longer i wait, more obvious it is that i'm flustered. fwck. i try to show her i'm unfazed and change the subject]
Me: Omg do you know it was TOTALLY fwcking random that I even walked in here tonight blah blah
Her: You seem angry.
Me: What? No blah blah people tell me I look angry all the time
Her: Look, I'm leaving. It was nice meeting you!
Me: I'll come hang out with you guys for a bit
Her: I don't know if my friends will be cool with that
...
...
Her: Look, we're not hooking up tonight
Me: (first thing I could think of to say) Hooking up? We haven't even kissed yet
...[it doesn't make any sense]
Her: Do you want my number?
Me: When do you go back to _______?
Her: Tomorrow

Whatever, I grab her number, she kisses me and leaves.

Wander around a bit. See a girl w/glasses sitting by herself at a table. Approach, usual opener, talk a bit. Can't remember why, but within one minute I move in and start to kiss her.

Her: WOA. Woa. woa. I have to be TOTALLY honest and tell you something. My mom died this June, and when guys try to kiss me, it brings a whole lot of negative emotions up.
Me: Ok...

Her friends come over, guy and (UGLY @$$) girl. SHE STARTS FWCKING CRYING. I stand there for like 3 minutes as the girl is whispering to her, comforting her, hugging her. The guy is telling me it's all good, I didn't do anything wrong, just keep talking to her, I think he wants a wingman lol.

Eventually they leave me w/her. She seems fine but starts fwcking bawling again. I'm like ok...so I put my arm around her and try to comfort her. I try to distract her, I make a couple jokes about her crying because she hates me and tell her a story about how when I was young my sister would fake-cry in order to get me into trouble.

She laughs at this and stops crying. Wooo. I sit down w/her and start talking, but one minute later she STARTS CRYING AGAIN. Put my arm around her again, etc.

She stops crying and starts talking again. As I listen to her talk, it's at this point that I realize THERE IS SOMETHING SERIOUSLY OFF WITH THIS CHICK. And it's not emotional problems/childhood abuse or anything. I'm almost certain she has down syndrome, totally serious. She has trouble speaking properly. I stay for about a minute before imagining kissing her/being in bed with her and being horrified at the thought. I tell her it was nice meeting her, wish her a happy new year, and leave.

Bar closes, everyone gets kicked out. I leave feeling only slightly less sh1tty than before I came in. I text my friend "I made out with a fatty and hit on a disabled girl. Happy new years..." Honestly, it was fwcking depressing.

It's fwcking freezing outside, my nose is running, my feet hurt like fwck already from all the walking/running I did earlier, my joints feel icy brittle. I make my way over to the bus stop to get home and realize FWCK THIS BUS DOESN'T RUN RIGHT NOW. I start walking. I'm not paying for a motherfwcking cab, hell no. I walk and walk and walk, singing songs out loud to distract myself from how cold it was and how I kind of wanted to jump off a bridge. I wished I were just cuddled up warm at home by myself, watching a few episodes of my favorite anime...

It was about 2am when I left the bar. By the time I arrived home, it was 3:30am. Happy new year guys...




NOTE: All the negative talk in this post is for me to get off my chest. I am fwcking going back out there today for some daygame. Bring it on b1tches :rockon:

Good field report.

I think you went as far as you could with the first girl. She either wasn't looking to F that night (ie just make out and fool around) or she arrived with a gf and couldn't just ditch her.

It sounds like the later, which isn't your fault.

Made out with 3 girls, kissed about 4 on nye.
And yes they were all hot b!tches.

Was drunk as hell woke up feeling like sh!t.
Now I'm depressed.

sageproduct said:

G0d I fwcking hate night game. I hate the noise, the utter sh1ttines of the meaningless conversations you have, the huge amounts of money people waste, and smelling like cheap perfume as I walk home (alone).

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Man, I second this so much. I'm really growing to dislike it. My buddy does really well with it, but he's got a massive social circle, built up of 6-7 years of crazy bar-hopping all over the area, knows most of the bartenders, not to mention plenty of money to toss around.

Daygame all the way. Sober interactions are so much more memorable, too. Drunken ones can be fun, and are fun stories, but much less likely to actually last.

That night sounds like a couple I've had recently.. I can relate.

this is why i stopped going to bars and clubs long ago

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:

What really amazes me are the guys that go out all the time but it's not even to get laid its just to drink. You have to be some form of alcoholic to enjoy that(as they all are).

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Lol. Agreed. Common conversation:

Sageproduct is out focused on sarging. Spots some cool guys he knows from college.

Sageproduct: What up man?! Good to see you!
Cool dude: Sup man! What are you up to?
Sageproduct: Ehh just trying to meet some ladies. How about you, why aren't you guys talking to any girls?
Dude: I'm in no rush to do that. Just wanna hang with the bros and chill.
Sageproduct: (thinking wtf...in that case i'd rather stay home and play video games lol)

Dudes are usually better looking than me...one guy I know is ripped as FWCK and a total beast but is always like this

Oh and thanks for the feedback everyone.

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:

5% of my nights out are good nights. Last night was ok just because I was the right amount of drunk. No single chicks at all, very weird, and wingman was just there because he felt obligated to be out, didnt even drink. Didnt have great options though, could have hung out with married friends, family, or went to the casinos with a few guys. These days I mostly only go out from obligation too, whereas when it was somewhat new in my early 20s I enjoyed it because it was "new". Getting laid from clubs is so rare for me that if I said I had a good night I'd be applying AW chick criteria- got a lot of stares/attention and a few numbers that never amount to anything. Which is what 90% of even single chicks are out for. I know women love attention and validation but I have to wonder if even most of them just feel obligated to be there.

What really amazes me are the guys that go out all the time but it's not even to get laid its just to drink. You have to be some form of alcoholic to enjoy that(as they all are).

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I go to the club for a cardio workout. You would be surprised how much fat can be burned by spending 2-3 hrs grinding with hot babes, especially when they are really good at it!

Excellent FR. IMO you pushed a bit too hard to hang with that chick afterwards. If they come with a group of friends, she'll likely leave with them. That's when you just grab her number.

Keep putting yourself out there. The more interactions you have with women, the greater your chances of success!

Sounds like a great start to the year man. Especially considering that you were not going to let plans falling through ruin your night. You still went out and made moves.

My night was solid. Went to this house party, kiss close at midnight. She was cute but kind of crazy -- fresh off of a breakup perhaps, she mentioned it a little but I stopped her and told her "it's the new year dammit!" Doubt it's a solid number but we'll see, lol.

I arrive at a casino with several bars. I first stop at a hot dog stand because I know getting into any restaurant or even food court is not going to happen on the busiest night of the year.

HB Hot Dog: <Smile and glance at my Bugachi shirt> How is your NYE going?

Mike: I don't know yet. I just got here. <Smirk. Too honest for own good>

HB Hot Dog: I hope it goes well for you.

Mike: Me too.

I went to this bar with a band. As a "sniper," I'm looking for viable targets, not random people to approach. On NYE, it was full of couples, AWs, and chicks that are too young for me.

A "viable target" for me, is a mature (non-married) lady no younger than say 29 that I have good intuition or feeling about that is a lone wolf or with ONE gf . (Maybe I'm WAYY too llimiting and should broaden the age range?) She would also be dressed slighty sexy to normal to slightlly conservatively. Not super slutty like an older AW.

Finally, I see this two pretty 30/40s ladies on the edge of the dance floor. Some dude starts dancing with one of them. Her gf is rocking side to side and didn't have a guy. Obviously she wants to dance. Ok Mike, get your a#s over there and show 'em how it's done....

With a latin tune playing, I approach head on and hold both my hands out with my fingertips pointing at each other. (This is a Merengue hand-hold I learned in dance class.) She grabs onto both hands and we start dancing. The biggest problem I was having was the dance floor was TOO F-ing packed. It was difficult to impossible to break out any great moves because there was simply no room.

I did the "cuddle turn" a few times which she semed to like. Even that was tricky with all the people around.

<Tries a little convo with the dancing>

Mike: I've been doing ballroom for a little while. There's just no room to get too into it.

HB: cool.

Mike: You're a good dancer. Did you ever take dance?

HB: No not formally, but always loved it since I was a little girl.

Finally, I gave up the "formal dancing" because there was simply no space for it and went back to a freestyle.

We did some grinding. Then I turned her face to face and slow danced and grinded face to face. She was pressed up against me. It's 15 minutes to midnight. At least get a kiss right?

About five minutes to midnight, she says, "Thank you. Happy New Year" and kisses my cheek and walks away to return to her gf.

It was the equivalent of "It was nice dancing and meeting you."

With five minutes remaining, no other viable targets, and moving around impossible due to it being packed, there is nothing more Mike can do until after midnight.

After midnight, the crowd thins. I walk by this other bar and look through the bars on the window. Cover charges are steep. I'm not going pay cover unless it's worth it for me to go into there. I look in the window. This a little chubby (but doable after a six pack lol) 24ish chick waves to me.

HB Chubs: Why are you looking in the window?
Mike: To see if it's worth it for me to come in.
HB Chubs: <friendly> For ME, it is.
Mike: <This went over my head. Did she mean it was worth it for HER age and crowd only? Or was she flirting with me?>

Well, if I can get in for low cost, maybe. I see my buddy the doorman. It's like 1am.

Mike: What's the cover at this hour? <It should be cheaper after midnight.>
Doorman: You're all set Mike. <Awesome>

No viable targets at all. Either too young or they are already making out with someone. The through the window thick chick is gone. Enjoy the some music. Headed out about 1:40 before closing time.

Mike's gonna call it a night. Outside the bar, over to his left, two guys picked up a girl and are holding her up in the air horizontally while her gf takes a photo. As Mike turns around, he gets accidentally gets a full view of the shaved promised land from Ms. Horizontal Commando with a Short Dress. He chuckles and heads out to his car. (I didn't drink. It was a sober night.)

From reading this a second time, I think the one failing point you had was becoming outcome dependent. Need to retain the attitude of 'I don't give a ****' even while pushing for a hook-up. Once you get through the outcome dependency, you'll do well - very well.

In the same vein, it's transitioning that is getting you, the transition of environments. You can't push for it too hard as the girl knows what you want - if you don't get it on the first push, back off a bit, try a different vein, or number close and move on.

Confident persistence is good when the girl knows its confident - in this case, she knew that what you wanted was to hook up, and that took the edge of confidence off and made you seem desperate.

Edit: This is at sageproduct.

And my FR was playing pool with a few guys and getting drunk, so meh.

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:

5% of my nights out are good nights. Last night was ok just because I was the right amount of drunk. No single chicks at all, very weird, and wingman was just there because he felt obligated to be out, didnt even drink. Didnt have great options though, could have hung out with married friends, family, or went to the casinos with a few guys. These days I mostly only go out from obligation too, whereas when it was somewhat new in my early 20s I enjoyed it because it was "new". Getting laid from clubs is so rare for me that if I said I had a good night I'd be applying AW chick criteria- got a lot of stares/attention and a few numbers that never amount to anything. Which is what 90% of even single chicks are out for. I know women love attention and validation but I have to wonder if even most of them just feel obligated to be there.

What really amazes me are the guys that go out all the time but it's not even to get laid its just to drink. You have to be some form of alcoholic to enjoy that(as they all are).

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This is funny, but there might be some truth to it. I stayed home and had sex with the "other girl". Enjoyed a very quiet NYE at home, as I do every NYE. Honestly I've done the club scene and I'm a horrible at giving attention. I think, "why buy you a drink when I can buy me...another drink".

Most of my hits are from just being out and about or from online. There seems to be a certain level of expectation that women know what you're after and are either game (not as many as I would hope), or just AW.

I'm old, so what do I know? Anyway, some guys are good at the club game, but I'm not so I play where I'm good and I try to minimize as much local competition as possible, and clubs are full of local competition/distractions. Also, I suck when I drink too much, so I usually won't hit on a girl unless I'm completely sober or just a little tipsy. Oh, and I drink like maybe 3 times a year, so one beer and I'm tipsy.

NYE is always a fun time out though...if you can stay home and get naked with a previous prospect, even better.

You guys might have more success if you were able to chill out and have fun.

I used to like going to the clubs just dance and drink a lot of times. I'll never forget one time when I was with some friends at club and I just started dancing. I didn't care what anybody thought, I was just having fun by myself while my friends stood around doing their thing.

I had some of the hottest girls come up and start dancing with me out of the blue. Nothing came of it as I was just trying to have fun and not stress myself out with pick up. I just had fun and that was it.

NYE Failure

Mine was "ok" but i failed and pissed about it lol. It was going to be 4 friends meeting up but 2 backed out so it ended up just being me and my good friend. We went to this classy but casual bar. We start talking to these 2 women.. I end up gaming the more "conservative" one, shes 8 years older than me and i get her drinking with me and dancing. We start making out heavily and she starts grabbing me all over my muscles then i slapped her ass and grabbin it... my friend is also doing his part on the other woman. Im thinking its in the bag!... as the night goes on after 1am she gets up and says ill be back... i had to go to the bathroom and on my way i see her talking privately to someone but didnt pay any mind... i went to the bathroom and when i came back it was more of the same but something seemed off... we left in a cab to another bar closer to their apartment building, when we get out she grabs on to me and holding my hand... then boom... she says she has to leave and gets all antsy about leaving. her friend wanted all of us to go back with them but the chick i was working out backed out... and that was that. I suck i know. What makes me even more mad is i had 3 other girls textin me that wanted to see me and f*ck em but i decided to try and work on this woman. Close but no cigar.

I dunno about anyone else but i dont take rejection or failure well, especially when i do well with females. After that i ran into a very hot chick outside, i had her laughing and smiling but she was bitter about her fiance cheating on her and it ended as expected... she gave me her number but i dont expect anything out of that. oh well i sucked NYE.

Awesome SoSuave666. Yes, the best ONS' are with fun, interesting women. Physical stuff aside, you want her to be good company.

Our night was off the hook

1. Played Jenga with friends
2. Knocked over the tower twice (I'm a badass)
3. Ate Wagon Wheels and Drank Orange Soda
4. Played Cards
5. Banged my asian girl at night. (She's 23)

- ME: Hey put your cosplay gear on
- HER: Ok
- Done.

Conclusion: Jenga/Boardgames get girls horny.

[Sidenote: I think you guys try way too hard to be cool and have 'crazy nights out', get a deck of cards and play a few games of crazy 8's while at 'the club'. Girls love games, I've done this plenty of times and had more fun than just standing alone on the dancefloor like a tool (and I breakdance)... its much easier talking to girls on a mini-action date and when you start playing cards and having fun, people naturally flock to you and want to join in. I've even played magic cards (Magic:The Gathering) at a busy nightclub with a friend near the dancefloor. Don't be afraid to have fun in front of others. It shows you are more than just a horny guy looking to hump a leg. Drugs or Alcohol never enter my mind. ]

Learn some dance moves a bit of magic, have a deck of cards on you to play some games, be fun and interesting. Stand out.

SoSuave666 said:

The beauty of living in a big city is that there are plenty of options every weekend. NYE is a big one this time of year...and that's an understatement. Anyway, I paid for a private party in DC which was a lot of fun. I went with about 20 friends of mine and we kind of took over the place. Decked out in our Sunday Best me and my buddy went around to hit on some chicks. Eventually I lost him but here is my FR:

I'm not exactly sure how I met her, but I ended up kissing her at midnight. I had left my keys at my buddys house because I thought I would be staying there, but this Rachel McAdams look-a-like was all over me all evening, so I figured I should take her back to my apartment for some alone time. At about 3 AM we walked back to my buds place to grab my keys, then cabbed back to my place in Arlington.

She was, for sure, a slvt. But instead of being one of those low-class like trasy girls, she was mad cool. She made me work for my efforts, was knowledgeable on multiple subjects, and gave me a bit of LMR. She was very sexy, an 8/9 hybrid in my book.

We got back to my place, I fixed us up a couple drinks, and put on my "playlist" on the ipod dock. Before we could learn about each other's lives our clothes were off. By the time we were done in my bedroom, my belvedere was gone and my sheets were soaked. I sh!t you not it was probably 5 or 6 hours of just banging, resting for 10 minutes, then going back at it. Eventually we slept for probably an hour or two, woke up early afternoon, and banged again for a while.

I drove her home this evening, complete no strings attached, joking and laughing the whole way. She was really mad cool. She was laid back, funny, sexy, and completely down for anything. We got lost in the city and had fun getting into more trouble than we bargained for while firting the whole time and being just...I dunno...content with the events of the past 24 hours.

I dropped her off, kissed her, and didn't take her phone number. I'll never see her again in my entire life. These are the stories that I wouldn't have the chance to experience if I were exlcusive, married, or celibate. Just a great night. I don't mean to be on a high horse right now, but I feel bad for everyone who had a sh!tty Holiday Season. If you took Harry Wilmington's advice and botched the opportunity to meet women during this time of year, I pity you.

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That's awesome. May I ask why you made a point of specifically not taking her contact info? It's just kind of hard for me to wrap my head around. I enjoy keeping touch with people in my life after parting ways, from all facets of my life. To me, it's cool to be able to remember the people in my past and see what they're doing all over the world now, and maybe drop a line or two every once in a while. I understand the idea of no strings attached, but why do you want to intentionally cut each other out after that? And if it were so good wouldn't you want more at some point?

Re: Everyone saying to just go out and have a good time, I personally just don't seem to mesh with that. To me, having a "good time" is quietly sitting alone in my apartment appreciating a 1980's classic anime or enjoying the beautiful story of a Final Fantasy video game, with no existing outside world to bother me. Going out is like "work" to me - it's all about pushing myself to improve my social interactions and skills with the women. If I go out on the pretense of "I'd have more success with girls if I just tried to have fun", I'd only be trolling myself.

Even if I'm hanging out with some of the coolest people I know, I'll have a total blast for half an hour, maybe an hour, and then my mood will slowly go downhill until I feel like I absolutely need to withdraw and be by myself.

Hmmm you sound like my wife. She is a complete introvert, sits around watching Anime stuff and playing Ninja games on her DS.

The problem you are having is that your choice of 'venue' is out of sync with your personality. You would probably succeed with asians or just by coming to asia period. Probably 1 out of 3 girls here is in love with anime cartoons... The Chinese manager here at the school is a 26 year old woman and is a huge Inyuyasha nerd.

You could goto anime conventions and probably get more success hitting on women there... China is like one huge anime convention. I use to work security at an anime con and met 1000's of horny women, all introverted, all nerds. Also 10's of thousands of loser men would show up... so your competition is almost nill.

I sit around playing my PSP when my wife isn't hogging it... sometimes we play Dance Dance Revolution together. My wife wears cosplay stuff around while out in the town, she looks really nice in it. The thing is, I'm not really into Japanese cartoons as much as she is and I can't really appreciate the stuff she likes. I'm fairly certain if you met a girl like her, you two would be instant soul mates... Be careful of hunting nerd pvssy in america though, lots of warpig ****blockers on the prowl. My wife hates crowds, prefers to stay at home or sit around with just one friend. I have to drag her to nightclubs and then she just sits at the bar and watches me dance... I got her to dance once but she went DDR style and knocked over a table full of beers. She also doesn't drink, never touched drugs and was a virgin when I met her. She's cute though... anyway I'm sure you can find a ton of women just like her if you change your venue. You'll also be happier in the long run if you have a woman you actually like talking to when you two are done fvcking.

One of my friends is also an introvert, he and his woman sit around playing League of Legends pretty much all day. She has a bit of a tomboy brain but she is a hot petite chinese girl. He also hates bars/nightclubs and we usually just sit around a LAN on the weekends with pizza or whatever. The term 'just be yourself' is applicable in asia as its socially acceptable to sit around playing games and relaxing in the comfort of your own home. Bars and nightclubs aren't really used as much, theres also very little social scene beyond the boardgame bars for young people. The anime conventions are nuts though.... yeah maybe you should be here!

I covet your wife. Is this wrong?

I am thinking down your line though. A week and a half ago, I went to an anime convention for the first time ever. People there told me it was REALLY small for a convention, and I did my fair share of sarging but attractive girls were scarce and every girl I approached had a bf.

Agreed on the night scene not being my niche. I haven't really found my niche yet, but in the meantime I want to branch out, try different places, and just improve my skillset overall. And no matter what, if a girl is HOT, I shall approach her.

Generally, I'm not attracted to asians, but I haven't really let that limit me too much. It's just "negative points" for me, not really a dealbreaker.

I am encouraged when I see girls like this out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr-hwrUBGzQ

I've actually found that having common interests won't make or break it with someone. Plus, my interests are pretty diverse anyway, and there are so many areas I haven't explored that I don't really know for sure yet what I'm into. My one-itis who I dated for a month and a half this year was the first girl who I ever really, REALLY clicked with. The night we met, we talked for 20 minutes and just KNEW there was some special connection we got along so well. We didn't really have any common interests though, in fact in that regard we were very different. She had been an accomplished artist since childhood, I had never been into art. I play a couple musical instruments, she doesn't. I love video games and enjoy watching football, she couldn't care less about either one. She drank here and there and would even smoke pot occasionally, I'm sober and have never done pot.

I guess it does put a certain limitation on how well you can connect with someone though. While I was dating her, I met this other alternative style, gamer chick. The day I cold approached her, we had an hour long insta-date where she bought me chocolate and probably would have let me kiss her if I went for it. I remembered thinking about how incredibly awesome the first girl was, but with the second girl there were other things I could do that I'd never be able to with the first.